Help with Cheap build

[Mchedlo]

Hey guys! My Dad  asked me to build him a cheap PC around 250-300$ (without including GPU and PC case), i know nothing about AMD (i dont like them) but i know they are cheap. Can you guys suggest me a Decent build for everyday office use? 

[CtrlAltELITE]

Just SCRAPING the edge of your budget but:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($41.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $307.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:27 EDT-0400

 

Im assuming by $ you meant US$.

 

You could save some money. I added a CD drive since office use (you never know). Splashed out a bit on a hybrid SSHD drive since it will make office tasks seem much more snappy than a base 7200RPM HDD. The 1TB was only US$20 cheaper so I just slapped a 2TB in.

 

AMD is an option but $300 puts you comfortably in skylake i3 terratory.

[pithball]

this should be pretty good\

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[ZerueLX11]

Throw an APU, A68H chipset motherboard and a cheap 120GB SSD together and you should be good.

[Mchedlo]

1 minute ago, CtrlAltELITE said:

Just SCRAPING the edge of your budget but:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($41.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $307.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:27 EDT-0400

 

Im assuming by $ you meant US$.

thank you for your reply. isnt it better to get AMD in this case? (im not fan of AMD either, just asking) cuz they have more Cores for less price. and no its lower than 300$, we have optical drive as well   and yes i meant US $

[ChrisCross]

you can go for a athlon x4 845 with the new 95w cooler and fm2+ motherboards are very cheap.

psu depends if you wanna add a gpu. if your in europe there are some cool system builder deals from be quiet.

8gb of kingston valueRAM should be enough if he is not a tab monster or heavy multitasker.

with a 250gb ssd im at 225€ here in germany but obviously that depends.

 

if you have more money you can go for a six- or octa-core

[ChrisCross]

Just now, CtrlAltELITE said:

Just SCRAPING the edge of your budget but:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($41.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $307.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:27 EDT-0400

 

Im assuming by $ you meant US$.

 

You could save some money. I added a CD drive since office use (you never know). Splashed out a bit on a hybrid SSHD drive since it will make office tasks seem much more snappy than a base 7200RPM HDD. The 1TB was only US$20 cheaper so I just slapped a 2TB in.

 

AMD is an option but $300 puts you comfortably in skylake i3 terratory.

you really need an ssd! and the i3 is just too expensive if you dont need single core performance which you dont need in office

[CtrlAltELITE]

Just now, Mchedlo said:

thank you for your reply. isnt it better to get AMD in this case? (im not fan of AMD either, just asking) cuz they have more Cores for less price. and no its lower than 300$, we have optical drive as well   and yes i meant US $

No. The direct equivelent to the i3 is the 6 core AMD FX 6xxx. That chip is about 5 years old now released in mid 2011. Thus it has 5 year old tech and power draw which is NOT what you want in an office computer. i3 will perform just as well but with much lower power draw & thermals (thus less noise). It is also easily upgradable if he finds he wants more horsepower in future, the AM sockets are a dead end.

[Mchedlo]

3 minutes ago, ChrisCross said:

you can go for a athlon x4 845 with the new 95w cooler and fm2+ motherboards are very cheap.

psu depends if you wanna add a gpu. if your in europe there are some cool system builder deals from be quiet.

8gb of kingston valueRAM should be enough if he is not a tab monster or heavy multitasker.

with a 250gb ssd im at 225€ here in germany but obviously that depends.

 

if you have more money you can go for a six- or octa-core

i was thinking about SSD too! but cant fit into budget sadly!

[GER_T4IGA]

It is missing HDD storage as you didn't say anthing about its use I assumend it is going to be an office machine which doesn't need much space. Do you need Windows? Peripherals?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($41.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.49 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $299.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:34 EDT-0400

[ChrisCross]

Just now, CtrlAltELITE said:

No. The direct equivelent to the i3 is the 6 core AMD FX 6xxx. That chip is about 5 years old now released in mid 2011. Thus it has 5 year old tech and power draw which is NOT what you want in an office computer. i3 will perform just as well but with much lower power draw & thermals (thus less noise). It is also easily upgradable if he finds he wants more horsepower in future, the AM sockets are a dead end.

the problem is its twice the price for the same performance.

 

Just now, Mchedlo said:

i was thinking about SSD too! but cant fit into budget sadly!

believe me an ssd will make an office pc way faster than the little more horsepower you get from an i3

[Mchedlo]

1 minute ago, GER_T4IGA said:

It is missing HDD storage as you didn't say anthing about its use I assumend it is going to be an office machine which doesn't need much space. Do you need Windows? Peripherals?

yes you are right, 250GB will do just fine i think, though HDD is very cheap in my country so i will buy it from here,  rather than Amazon

[Mchedlo]

1 minute ago, ChrisCross said:

the problem is its twice the price for the same performance.

 

believe me an ssd will make an office pc way faster than the little more horsepower you get from an i3

im thinking about 120GB SSD and 250-500GB HDD combined

[CtrlAltELITE]

Just now, ChrisCross said:

the problem is its twice the price for the same performance.

No its not. In multi threaded workloads the i3 just edges out the 6 core FX.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/350/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-6100.html

Cant cite the US prices off the top of my head but the i3 is priced at £85 here and the FX6300 is £77.

 

FX4000 is half the price but JUST edges above the dual core none HC pentium in performance. i3 wipes the floor with it.

[GER_T4IGA]

1 minute ago, Mchedlo said:

im thinking about 120GB SSD and 250-500GB HDD combined

I just used the 250gb instead of 120 since it is only 30 bucks up from already 50 to start with. You can do that but I would gte at least 1TB if I can. Lower capacities are just to expensive for what you get. and extra sapace is never that bad. If cost is your main concern, well do how you please. I told you what I would to and why.

[NumLock21]

I added a larger SSD. Price can be lower by choosing a smaller size ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:42 EDT-0400

[GER_T4IGA]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

I added a larger SSD. Price can be lower by choosing a smaller size ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:42 EDT-0400

Quite a good idea to ditch the i3 for a little bit of degraded performance but now an acceptable level of SSD storage. I like you sir.

[ChrisCross]

it depends on what you do with it. if you store videos or something really big you will need a hdd. but otherwise your fine with 240gb. 120gb even if your on linux.

 

Just now, CtrlAltELITE said:

No its not. In multi threaded workloads the i3 just edges out the 6 core FX.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/350/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-6100.html

Cant cite the US prices off the top of my head but the i3 is priced at £85 here and the FX6300 is £77.

 

FX4000 is half the price but JUST edges above the dual core none HC pentium in performance. i3 wipes the floor with it.

i3 6100 is 114€ and fx 6300 is 83€ here

but the athlon x4 845 is 60€ with a way better cooler. it may be a little slower but its soo much better value and you can go with an ssd which will make the whole system way faster. also motherboard is much cheaper

[Mchedlo]

4 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

I just used the 250gb instead of 120 since it is only 30 bucks up from already 50 to start with. You can do that but I would gte at least 1TB if I can. Lower capacities are just to expensive for what you get. and extra sapace is never that bad. If cost is your main concern, well do how you please. I told you what I would to and why.

well for my gaming rig which i already bought, i didnt go cheap on HDD, bought 1 TB. but for my dad's office its not needed. It will be a PC for a coworker (not Main PC, main PC they have about 8TB  i think). 

[ChrisCross]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

I added a larger SSD. Price can be lower by choosing a smaller size ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:42 EDT-0400

the pentium g4400 maybe more efficient but it has no multi-threading so its way slower.

its the pentium anniversary vs. 860k all over again 

[Mchedlo]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

I added a larger SSD. Price can be lower by choosing a smaller size ssd.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:42 EDT-0400

I like it, pretty decent build! but does Pentium G processors perform good? in multitask ?

[NumLock21]

3 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

Quite a good idea to ditch the i3 for a little bit of degraded performance but now an acceptable level of SSD storage. I like you sir.

A Core i3 will be more responsive than a Pentium, but the SSD should make up for it. A ssd can even bring in new life to a old PC.

[GER_T4IGA]

5 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($41.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Budget Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin ECO2 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $271.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 17:46 EDT-0400

 

Would you consider that even better? I am unsure about the PSU. It is a seasonic but that 350W though. It is only 47 Watt processor + change but ... idk

[Mchedlo]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

A Core i3 will be more responsive than a Pentium, but the SSD should make up for it. A ssd can even bring in new life to a old PC.

Agreed about that

[ChrisCross]

Just now, Mchedlo said:

I like it, pretty decent build! but does Pentium G processors perform good? in multitask ?

no it wont. this particular one has no multi-threading so you have half the digital cores