build pc, wait for pascal

[kakhat]

so at the end of march or beginning of April I want to build my first gaming pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t3J2gs and I am thinking about video card, should I buy gtx 980 ti now or what else and besides I don't have any other computer o what do you suggest ,what should I do

[Shahnewaz]

Depends on how urgently you need a computer. If you need it ASAP, then get it now.

You can also build your PC without the GPU, and then buy a Pascal/Polaris GPU later.

As usual, I'm gonna stick my gaming build recommendation, so you can compare and ask any questions you like.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/FX6NXL

[StevenSensei]

1 minute ago, kakhat said:

so at the end of march or beginning of April I want to build my first gaming pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t3J2gs and I am thinking about video card, should I buy gtx 980 ti now or what else and besides I don't have any other computer o what do you suggest ,what should I do

Since you don't have a computer and you are talking about building in the next week or two I would say go ahead and buy the 980ti. Pascal and the others are still a few months off and may or may not have a good performance jump. Some are estimating it will be less than 10%. 

 

If you are really conflicted you can build now and run in integrated graphics for a while and enjoy some older games. Or you can buy the 980ti and sell it off to help pay for an upgrade if there is a big performance gain.

 

I'd also recommend you look into adding a SSD to your build as it will help with overall system performance. You also need to add a keyboard, mouse, and an upgraded cooler if you plan to overclock the chip. If you don't plan to overclock you will not need the K processor or the z97 board. 

 

[Lethal Seraph]

Unless you really want to get Pascal, waiting later down the road for a 980Ti discount will probably only gonna get you around $50-$100 off new GPU. Unless of course you get a used one, we could be talking $200 off new or perhaps more.

[Shahnewaz]

1 minute ago, Papakuma said:

Pascal and the others are still a few months off and may or may not have a good performance jump. Some are estimating it will be less than 10%.

Where are you getting this information? Pascal and Polaris are on new process nodes and they are new architectures, so it's bound to get significantly better performance and/or significantly reduced power consumption, if not anything else.

[StevenSensei]

1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

Where are you getting this information? Pascal and Polaris are on new process nodes and they are new architectures, so it's bound to get significantly better performance and/or significantly reduced power consumption, if not anything else.

Speculation is reduced power consumption but not a huge jump in performance. Nobody will know for sure however until the boards are released. Speculation abounds on a variety of forums including this one. But I haven't heard anyone beating the drum of a huge performance gain...all the talk is around the reduced power draw. 

[Shahnewaz]

Just now, Papakuma said:

Speculation is reduced power consumption but not a huge jump in performance. Nobody will know for sure however until the boards are released. Speculation abounds on a variety of forums including this one. But I haven't heard anyone beating the drum of a huge performance gain...all the talk is around the reduced power draw. 

Which is all the more dangerous to draw conclusions on. Your tone of writing suggested that Pascal might have less than 10% performance improvement, which is pure speculation at this point. You really shouldn't advise someone based on rumors and speculation.

[maremp]

19 minutes ago, kakhat said:

so at the end of march or beginning of April I want to build my first gaming pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t3J2gs and I am thinking about video card, should I buy gtx 980 ti now or what else and besides I don't have any other computer o what do you suggest ,what should I do

At this price, why did you not pick 6700K and Z170 chipset (if you intend to OC)? Or if you're only going to use ti for gaming, get a 6600K and lower the cost of your build by $100. Anyways, if you're going to OC, get a better cooler, stock ain't gonna do the job.

[StevenSensei]

1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

Which is all the more dangerous to draw conclusions on. Your tone of writing suggested that Pascal might have less than 10% performance improvement, which is pure speculation at this point. You really shouldn't advise someone based on rumors and speculation.

The advice is that without a gaming machine and wanting to build in two weeks you might as well buy what is available now as we don't know anything about what is in the pipeline that won't be here for a few months. Speculation says lower than expected performance...could be right...could be wrong...which is why I said it was speculation. 

 

I also offered the advice to run on iGPU or buy and upgrade later if the reality pans out to be a large performance gain. But for OP, the issue is building in the next few weeks and he or she wanted to know what to do in the face of speculation and uncertainty. 

[Shahnewaz]

Just now, Papakuma said:

The advice is that without a gaming machine and wanting to build in two weeks you might as well buy what is available now as we don't know anything about what is in the pipeline that won't be here for a few months. Speculation says lower than expected performance...could be right...could be wrong...which is why I said it was speculation.

I thought you used both points to back your advice (that Pascal won't come soon and it might be disappointing in performance).

But anyways, Pascal and Polaris is still a viable choice in my books. If not anything else, it'll make the older generation cards even cheaper. 

[StevenSensei]

1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

I thought you used both points to back your advice (that Pascal won't come soon and it might be disappointing in performance).

But anyways, Pascal and Polaris is still a viable choice in my books. If not anything else, it'll make the older generation cards even cheaper. 

We can only hope! This is a tough issue for people building right now for sure. The sad fact of the matter is as soon as you buy something new will come along...and the cycle of upgrades continues

[DrM]

From what ive heard, the 980 ti replacement isnt coming until early 2017 and the  flagship card nvidia is releasing is the gtx 1080, which will sit more or less between the 980 and 980ti.

[Streetguru]

37 minutes ago, kakhat said:

so at the end of march or beginning of April I want to build my first gaming pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t3J2gs and I am thinking about video card, should I buy gtx 980 ti

Not worth it to get an Nvidia GPU with the added cost of G-sync over Free-sync

 

Also go 4k, more pixels for less money

 

this is a 27" 4k IPS free-sync display, if productivity is your thing you'll want a 40" 4k display

 

and overclocking isn't going to be worth it, and you should probably go skylake at this point for USB 3.1.

 

also just get a mid range GPU, and save your money for the top end new GPUs, they'll be able to put 4k at 60fps pretty well.

 

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