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6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

If you are considering a drop to the 6700k you might want to consider going the 4790k route.  The boards are very inexpensive and the drop to DDR3 will have little impact.

 

I personally think that you should stay with the x99/5820k build, but address cost cuts in areas that you can afford to do.  That platform will carry your brother a long ways in his type of work.  

 

I absolutely agree with ALwin on the Synology NAS units.  They are top notch, but that too should come at a later time.

With the HDD price drop and the case price drop (still feel stupid I had such a spendy case there) I will keep the x99 build.

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11 minutes ago, JulesTKirk said:

You're very welcome :)

Next step would be... build log? haha

Quick question on those seagate drives. They are 5900 RPM but still 6gbps. Is that going to have any performance impact compared to the 7200 RPM at 6gbps? How can they have the same throughput with lower rpm? Wizardary?

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8 minutes ago, TyrelOlsen said:

Quick question on those seagate drives. They are 5900 RPM but still 6gbps. Is that going to have any performance impact compared to the 7200 RPM at 6gbps? How can they have the same throughput with lower rpm? Wizardary?

The interface speed has nothing to do with the actual capabilities of the hard drive itself.  As an example, just because a GTX 970 and a GTX 980 Ti share the same PCIe x16 3.0 interface doesn't mean the cards are capable of saturating that interface.

 

With the 5900 RPM drive, you will have slightly increased access times and maybe a hair slower sustained transfers, but I'm willing to bet that it will remain transparent to your brother-in-law.

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11 minutes ago, TyrelOlsen said:

Quick question on those seagate drives. They are 5900 RPM but still 6gbps. Is that going to have any performance impact compared to the 7200 RPM at 6gbps? How can they have the same throughput with lower rpm? Wizardary?

The drives have 4 platters of 1tb each, I assume they can't go that fast because it's pretty dense inside a relatively tiny enclosure. I use a 5900RPM drive for a secondary build and can't see a huge difference on performances... The "6Gb/s" rating simply means that it's compatible "up" to 6gb/s but even 7200 rpm drives can't reach that and are pretty slow anyway compared to SSDs. If he's going to work on 4k, it's not a good idea to use them as work disks, but it should be fine to export renders on them and to store finished videos

 

edit: done12many2 beat me to it lol, but yeah same as he said :) 

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5 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

The interface speed has nothing to do with the actual capabilities of the hard drive itself.  As an example, just because a GTX 970 and a GTX 980 Ti share the same PCIe x16 3.0 interface doesn't mean the cards are capable of saturating that interface.

 

With the 5900 RPM drive, you will have slightly increased access times and maybe a hair slower sustained transfers, but I'm willing to bet that it will remain transparent to your brother-in-law.

1 minute ago, JulesTKirk said:

The drives have 4 platters of 1tb each, I assume they can't go that fast because it's pretty dense inside a relatively tiny enclosure. I use a 5900RPM drive for a secondary build and can't see a huge difference on performances... The "6Gb/s" rating simply means that it's compatible "up" to 6gb/s but even 7200 rpm drives can't reach that and are pretty slow anyway compared to SSDs. If he's going to work on 4k, it's not a good idea to use them as work disks, but it should be fine to export renders on them and to store finished videos

Maybe it would be best to use two nice fast or 2 TB drive (RAID 5) inside to work off of then use those 5900's in an external configuration for storage. I think he is currently storing all his project on external media as it is, so a better external storage solution could come later. Seagate as a 2 TB 7200 RPM Drive for $65.

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5 minutes ago, TyrelOlsen said:

Maybe it would be best to use two nice fast or 2 TB drive (RAID 5) inside to work off of then use those 5900's in an external configuration for storage. I think he is currently storing all his project on external media as it is, so a better external storage solution could come later. Seagate as a 2 TB 7200 RPM Drive for $65.

Good idea :)

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5 minutes ago, TyrelOlsen said:

Maybe it would be best to use two nice fast or 2 TB drive (RAID 5) inside to work off of then use those 5900's in an external configuration for storage. I think he is currently storing all his project on external media as it is, so a better external storage solution could come later. Seagate as a 2 TB 7200 RPM Drive for $65.

I wish I could help you there, but I don't work with 120+ GB files regularly.  I'll leave that to the video experts you already have helping you.

 

I can tell you that if I did, I personally would be using and currently do use nothing, but SSDs.  My main OS/software is on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD and the large files that I commonly do use are stored on RAID 0 arrays made up of Samsung 850 Evo SSDs.  Everyday everything on all of those drives are backed up to a Synology DS1815+ with a bunch of spinning disks stuffed into it.  :D

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1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

I wish I could help you there, but I don't work with 120+ GB files regularly.  I'll leave that to the video experts you already have helping you.

 

I can tell you that if I did, I personally would be using and currently do use nothing, but SSDs.  My main OS/software is on a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD and the large files that I commonly do use are stored on RAID 0 arrays made up of Samsung 850 Evo SSDs.  Everyday everything on all of those drives are backed up to a Synology DS1815+ with a bunch of spinning disks stuffed into it.  :D

Thats the dream setup! All SSDs everything. Some day...

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5 minutes ago, TyrelOlsen said:

Thats the dream setup! All SSDs everything. Some day...

It's a little more expensive, but not nearly as bad as you think.  SSDs are falling fast and if you catch sales at the right time, you end up with a stack of them.

 

Are you near a Micro Center?  They have the 5820k brand new for $319 and their motherboards are cheaper than most etailers.  Last time I bought parts from them, they gave another $20 off when you purchased a CPU and motherboard at the same time.

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1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

It's a little more expensive, but not nearly as bad as you think.  SSDs are falling fast and if you catch sales at the right time, you end up with a stack of them.

 

Are you near a Micro Center?  They have the 5820k brand new for $319 and their motherboards are cheaper than most etailers.  Last time I bought parts from them, they gave another $20 off when you purchased a CPU and motherboard at the same time.

I wish... There are 0 computer parts retail stores near here. Other than Best Buy and that doesnt count.

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