Posted March 12, 2016 Hey guys! I was playing Bf4 and The Crew on a LAN party and I saw that my gpu has a slower core clock when in these games (it doesn't happen with GTA5). When I'm on desktop, the core clock is higher than when in-game. When I'm playing a game, the gpu is under 100% load, and 40 degrees celcius. Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, xDanielxOossiex said: Hey guys! I was playing Bf4 and The Crew on a LAN party and I saw that my gpu has a slower core clock when in these games (it doesn't happen with GTA5). When I'm on desktop, the core clock is higher than when in-game. When I'm playing a game, the gpu is under 100% load, and 40 degrees celcius. Download GPUZ and look on sensors and tell us what PerfCap you get. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 2 minutes ago, Benji_w said: Download GPUZ and look on sensors and tell us what PerfCap you get. When in a game, or when no game is running? Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 29 minutes ago, Benji_w said: Download GPUZ and look on sensors and tell us what PerfCap you get. Can you answer please? Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, xDanielxOossiex said: Can you answer please? In a game... C'mon do I really need to hold your hand with this? Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 2 hours ago, Benji_w said: In a game... C'mon do I really need to hold your hand with this? Sorry, I don't even know what PerfCap is. But I was afk for a bit. I'm going do it now. Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author When Battlefield 4 isn't running, it says Util. When Battlefield is running, it says Pwr. Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, xDanielxOossiex said: When Battlefield 4 isn't running, it says Util. When Battlefield is running, it says Pwr. Ok PWR PerfCap means you GPU isn't getting enough power (volts) to sustain the clock speed you want to hit. Turn up your volts in MSI Afterburner. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 1 minute ago, Benji_w said: Ok PWR PerfCap means you GPU isn't getting enough power (volts) to sustain the clock speed you want to hit. Turn up your volts in MSI Afterburner. By how much should I increase it? Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, xDanielxOossiex said: By how much should I increase it? Each GPU is different, turn it up bit by bit until the PWR PerfCap no longer shows up. If adding more voltage no longer helps then reduce your clockspeed. Also in MSI Afterburner turn up your power limit to the highest it will go. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 4 minutes ago, Benji_w said: Each GPU is different, turn it up bit by bit until the PWR PerfCap no longer shows up. If adding more voltage no longer helps then reduce your clockspeed. Also in MSI Afterburner turn up your power limit to the highest it will go. I think I have some different settings. In MSI Afterburner, I see: Core Voltage (mV) - +35 Core clock (Mhz) - +0 Shader clock (Mhz) - I can't slide the slider Memory clock (Mhz) - +0 Fan speed (%) - I have it on 60% all the time. Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, xDanielxOossiex said: I think I have some different settings. In MSI Afterburner, I see: Core Voltage (mV) - +35 Core clock (Mhz) - +0 Shader clock (Mhz) - I can't slide the slider Memory clock (Mhz) - +0 Fan speed (%) - I have it on 60% all the time. You might need to go into the options/settings to unlock your voltage settings and power options. I have a modded bios to run 1670MHz on the core and 8000MHz memory so my MSI Afterburner looks wonky. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, xDanielxOossiex said: Hey guys! I was playing Bf4 and The Crew on a LAN party and I saw that my gpu has a slower core clock when in these games (it doesn't happen with GTA5). When I'm on desktop, the core clock is higher than when in-game. When I'm playing a game, the gpu is under 100% load, and 40 degrees celcius. What coreclock is it actually running? Because it can't be anywhere near what it's supposed to with temps like that. 18 minutes ago, Benji_w said: Ok PWR PerfCap means you GPU isn't getting enough power (volts) to sustain the clock speed you want to hit. Turn up your volts in MSI Afterburner. He said 40 degrees under 100% load. That doesn'st strike you as odd? And might have something to do other than the millivolts? Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author 4 minutes ago, Benji_w said: You might need to go into the options/settings to unlock your voltage settings and power options. I have a modded bios to run 1670MHz on the core and 8000MHz memory so my MSI Afterburner looks wonky. I re-installed it, now I see power limit. Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Majestic said: What coreclock is it actually running? Because it can't be anywhere near what it's supposed to with temps like that. He said 40 degrees under 100% load. That doesn'st strike you as odd? And might have something to do other than the millivolts? Yeah... he's hitting a PWR PerfCap like he said, so it's not boosting and running cool, he's at 60% fan speed too that's a very fast speed. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Author Find out it the power limit was on 50%. Now set it to 110% Main gaming pc: Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh Performance - Ryzen 5 5600X - MSI GTX1080Ti Armor - AMD Wraith Spire RGB - ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 2x8GB 3200MHz - 500GB M.2 (and a few other drives) Gaming laptop: ASUS GL552VW: i7 6700HQ - GTX960M 2GB - 8GB DDR4 2166Mhz RAM - 1TB 7200RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Benji_w said: Yeah... he's hitting a PWR PerfCap like he said, so it's not boosting and running cool, he's at 60% fan speed too that's a very fast speed. No it's probably running some low power clock due to the card either not physically receiving power (I.E. improper PEG connector) or the GPU is stuck at P8 or P12. EDIT: or he's a bellend and set the power limit to 50%... Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, xDanielxOossiex said: Find out it the power limit was on 50%. Now set it to 110% Okay now relaunch a game and see what the core speed and memory clocks hit. Also see what the PerfCaps pop up. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Majestic said: No it's probably running some low power clock due to the card either not physically receiving power (I.E. improper PEG connector) or the GPU is stuck at P8 or P12. EDIT: or he's a bellend and set the power limit to 50%... Actually it was probably set to 50% from stock? No need to call OP a bellend, most 970s are very low power state cards and heavily restricted for it. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, Benji_w said: Actually it was probably set to 50% from stock? No need to call OP a bellend, most 970s are very low power state cards and heavily restricted for it. No, they never roll out of the factory with 50% powertargets. His signature features overclocking stats, he fiddled with it and got stuff wrong. Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Majestic said: No, they never roll out of the factory with 50% powertargets. His signature features overclocking stats, he fiddled with it and got stuff wrong. My EVGA 970 didn't have full power target I had to unlock it in MSI AB, then increase it with a custom bios... Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Benji_w said: My EVGA 970 didn't have full power target I had to unlock it in MSI AB, then increase it with a custom bios... But that's from 108 or 112 to 130%. Not from 50% to 100%. How is this relevant. Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Majestic said: But that's from 108 or 112 to 130%. Not from 50% to 100%. How is this relevant. It was nowhere near 100 mate... That's why it's relevant. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Benji_w said: It was nowhere near 100 mate... That's why it's relevant. But it would still boost up to where it was supposed to, and it still wasn't 50%. I'd say EVGA is pretty damn stupid to ship a unit that can't compete in out-of-the-box testing by reviewers. And EVGA isn't stupid. Your problem with powertargets would only be a deal with overclocking. Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Majestic said: But it would still boost up to where it was supposed to, and it still wasn't 50%. I'd say EVGA is pretty damn stupid to ship a unit that can't compete in out-of-the-box testing by reviewers. Your problem with powertargets would only be a deal with overclocking. Not everyone is a genius like you mate, he tried clocking it but didn't increase is Power target, I've been there myself. So I must be a nob head too because I didn't instantly know how to overclock the 970? Please, impart all your wisdom, maybe you can do that probe thing that Paul does in the film and instantly drops all the universes secrets on to the main characters. Spoiler Chernobyl AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360 Spoiler Kraken Intel i5 4670K Bare Die 4.9GHz | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Z97 | 16GB HyperX Savage 2400MHz | Samsung EVO 250GB EK Supremecy EVO & EK-MOSFET M7G | Dual 360mm Rads | Primochill CTR Phase II w/D5 | MSI GTX970 1670MHz/8000MHz Graphic Design Student & Overall Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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