$800 gaming machine 1080p

[glitchmaster0001]

hi so i have a friend that wants to have a gaming computer to run these games at 1080p on high to ultra settings at 1080p. his budget is around $800 and he needs something to run these games. can you guys put together a system build to run some these games? thank you 

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/battlefield-hardline/12479/?p=a

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/tom-clancys-the-division/13063/?p=r

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/fallout-4/12905/?p=r

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/battlefield-4/11804/?p=r

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/grand-theft-auto-v/12455/?p=r

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/12803

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/just-cause-3/12997/?p=r

[Lotus]

If you don't mind going a little over budget, relying on rebates, and delaying on getting an SSD you can get a tower with incredible performance:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($244.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $821.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-11 22:57 EST-0500

 

 

But if you must get an SSD, don't want to rely on rebates, and can't go above $800 at all, you can do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($304.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $796.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-11 22:59 EST-0500

[Fungal]

2 minutes ago, Lotus said:

But if you must get an SSD, don't want to rely on rebates, and can't go above $800 at all, you can do this:

 

I like this build but if you're getting a micro atx mobo might as well get a micro atx case and not a mid tower, that's my opinion

[Trey222]

Look at getting the Intel Xeon E5 2670. It has 8 cores and 16 threads. It is also only about 70US on Ebay. It is the chip I use. 

[glitchmaster0001]

8 minutes ago, Lotus said:

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dont worry about the SSD there is no need for it. its going to be a budget pc that relies on the raw power of the cpu and gpu. storage may be the bottleneck but it doesnt really matter. 

[Savir]

6 minutes ago, Fungal said:

I like this build but if you're getting a micro atx mobo might as well get a micro atx case and not a mid tower, that's my opinion

Its good for upgradability though(my opinion). It will look dumb but it will cost about the same.

[glitchmaster0001]

Just now, Savir said:

Its good for upgradability though(my opinion). It will look dumb but it will cost about the same.

getting an ATX mid tower i would think is the better option as its just a few bucks more and you can always reuse the case for later on 

[glitchmaster0001]

3 minutes ago, Savir said:

Its good for upgradability though(my opinion). It will look dumb but it will cost about the same.

what is the difference in stock clock speed proformance between the i5 6500 and the i5 6600k. i doubt that my friend will overclock his CPU and i dont know if it is worth the extra $40 for a k cpu 

[Savir]

The 6500 runs at 2.3 ghz and the 6600K default runs at 2.5. It wont effect you too much in gaming, but it's good to have the option. If you do get the 6500 get a H170 motherboard and stick with the stock cooler (for now) to save some money to upgrade another area of your build. 

[Lotus]

6 minutes ago, glitchmaster0001 said:

getting an ATX mid tower i would think is the better option as its just a few bucks more and you can always reuse the case for later on 

 

7 minutes ago, Savir said:

Its good for upgradability though(my opinion). It will look dumb but it will cost about the same.

 

It's actually simply about price. The mATX mobo was the cheapest one I could find that suited my needs, and the mid tower case was the cheapest decent case with sufficient fans, dust filters, and cable management to my liking. Any more expensive and I would have had to drop something else to fit in sub $800.

[glitchmaster0001]

Just now, Savir said:

The 6500 runs at 2.3 ghz and the 6600K default runs at 2.5. It wont effect you too much in gaming, but it's good to have the option. If you do get the 6500 get a H170 motherboard and stick with the stock cooler (for now) to save some money to upgrade another area of your build. 

i noticed that my client is planning on playing GTA V and also Fallout 4. ive tried fallout 4 and i know that it is VERY CPU BOUNDED. would the i5 6500 be a bottleneck in the system compared to the 6600k?

[Lotus]

4 minutes ago, glitchmaster0001 said:

what is the difference in stock clock speed proformance between the i5 6500 and the i5 6600k. i doubt that my friend will overclock his CPU and i dont know if it is worth the extra $40 for a k cpu 

3.6 to 3.9, but the 6600k is super easy to overclock and you should easily hit 4.4+ with only changing 2 variables.

[Savir]

2 minutes ago, glitchmaster0001 said:

i noticed that my client is planning on playing GTA V and also Fallout 4. ive tried fallout 4 and i know that it is VERY CPU BOUNDED. would the i5 6500 be a bottleneck in the system compared to the 6600k?

NO not even close. the 6600K would get you a few more FPS but its not worth it IMO. It depends on what you can get(how expensive the Z170 board is compared to the H170 version). 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs

 

[glitchmaster0001]

Just now, Savir said:

NO not even close. the 6600K would get you a few more FPS but its not worth it IMO

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs

how would you be able to overclokc the i5 6500 didnt intel lock the mulitpiers and the FSB?

[Savir]

3 minutes ago, glitchmaster0001 said:

how would you be able to overclokc the i5 6500 didnt intel lock the mulitpiers and the FSB?

Oh sry my bad didnt see that. 

[Lotus]

You can't overclock the i5 with that board.

 

As for Intel locking overclocking, that's only if you use the newest bios with the newest microcode. All you have to do to OC is find the right motherboard with the right bios. So long as you didn't flash the newest microcode, you're good, and even if you made that mistake I hear you can just flash an older bios that includes a microcode "update" before an OC bios. However, in the i5-6500 build I posted, as I said earlier OCing the i5 is not possible because the motherboard doesn't support it.

[glitchmaster0001]

Just now, Lotus said:

You can't overclock the i5 with that board.

 

As for Intel locking overclocking, that's only if you use the newest bios with the newest microcode. All you have to do to OC is find the right motherboard with the right bios. So long as you didn't flash the newest microcode, you're good, and even if you made that mistake I hear you can just flash an older bios that includes a microcode "update" before an OC bios. However, in the i5-6500 build I posted, OCing the i5 is not possible because the motherboard doesn't support it.

i see i know that youd have to use a z170 board to do that. but i doubt that my friend would risk overclocking the CPU so thats kind of out the window. 

[glitchmaster0001]

UPDATE: my friend is trying to negotiate with his parents to raise the budget of the PC to around $1000. i know that it is the sweet spot for price to performance. 

[Lotus]

6 minutes ago, glitchmaster0001 said:

UPDATE: my friend is trying to negotiate with his parents to raise the budget of the PC to around $1000. i know that it is the sweet spot for price to performance. 

It's not actually the sweet spot. $650 or so is the sweet spot, but $1000 will get him a machine that can run anything at max.

 

This would be the real "sweet spot" price to performance king build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card  ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $641.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-11 23:31 EST-0500

 

 

It won't max everything out, but it can get really close. (and yeah, I found a decent mATX case for cheap too, but shipping at NCIX makes it more expensive than the other one)

[glitchmaster0001]

28 minutes ago, Lotus said:

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what would be a good case for around $50 or less? 

[glitchmaster0001]

1 hour ago, Lotus said:

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tjgYVn what do you think of this build i put together? decent PC? feel free to edit the build i put. 

[Lotus]

-the motherboard is expensive for no reason. Remember, motherboards do not affect performance. They just have a featureset. Any Z chipset board will do for your purposes

-going dual channel is fine since you have 4 slots, and it's a slight increase in memory bandwidth, as 2400 is like $1 more expensive, and worth it

-the EVGA G1 PSU is crap at voltage regulation. Get a G2 or GS if you want EVGA.

-that case is not worth $70. If you're spending that much, at least get the S340

-$150 for a 1080p 60hz TN panel is NOT a good deal Get 60hz IPS or 144hz TN if you're on a budget

[glitchmaster0001]

9 hours ago, Lotus said:

-the motherboard is expensive for no reason. Remember, motherboards do not affect performance. They just have a featureset. Any Z chipset board will do for your purposes

-going dual channel is fine since you have 4 slots, and it's a slight increase in memory bandwidth, as 2400 is like $1 more expensive, and worth it

-the EVGA G1 PSU is crap at voltage regulation. Get a G2 or GS if you want EVGA.

-that case is not worth $70. If you're spending that much, at least get the S340

-$150 for a 1080p 60hz TN panel is NOT a good deal Get 60hz IPS or 144hz TN if you're on a budget

how about the antec HCG 850w psu? is that a good one?