Need help planning my office build

[MohammadKayed]

So I've never done a build from the ground up . my manger give me task to give him specification for 6 PC for the office so i want a good build maybe he will give me increment . I have no idea to go for AMD or skylake build. It needs to be within an acceptable budget around 1,000.0$ to 1,200.0 for each. we are consultant engineers company we usually using autocad , revit and 3d max medium usage not heavy .

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated .

[Streetguru]

52 minutes ago, MohammadKayed said:

So I've never done a build from the ground up . my manger give me task to give him specification for 6 PC for the office so i

So no gaming at all then?

 

If you really want to hit under budget with like SSDs or something, you'd want the Xeon 1231v3

 

firepro card is probably just going to be nice to have for those programs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxfrzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxfrzy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($394.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1206.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:23 EST-0500

[MohammadKayed]

14 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

So no gaming at all then?

 

If you really want to hit under budget with like SSDs or something, you'd want the Xeon 1231v3

 

firepro card is probably just going to be nice to have for those programs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxfrzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxfrzy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($394.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1206.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:23 EST-0500

yes no gaming , unfortunately i called three store they have no firepro they said we have  Quadro   is it good to go for i7 6700 and lower the price a little ? in this case could you give me a good build .

if not what i can do with this build to lower the price a little like a lower graphics card  .  

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, MohammadKayed said:

yes no gaming , unfortunately i called three store they have no firepro they said we have  Quadro   is it good to go for i7 6700 and lower the price a little ? in this case could you give me a good build .

if not what i can do with this build to lower the price a little like a lower graphics card  .  

What country/store? 

 

quadro is fine if your software uses CUDA, but the firepro cards are generally less expensive for similar performance, and they tend to come with more VRAM which is going to be useful for the 3D modeling

 

the 6700 isn't generally going to be worth it over the Xeon 1231v3 if it's available, the performance difference isn't much compared to the price difference.

[MohammadKayed]

Just now, Streetguru said:

What country/store? 

 

the 6700 isn't generally going to be worth it over the Xeon 1231v3 if it's available, the performance difference isn't much compared to the price difference.

UAE , dubai

[Streetguru]

Just now, MohammadKayed said:

UAE , dubai

Well I got no idea then, here's a bunch of parts lists depending on your part availability

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dYWGWZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dYWGWZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($244.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($120.66 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $962.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:50 EST-0500

If you end up going skylake make sure your Motherboard has USB 3.1, it's the main draw of the platform, I suppose the prices have settled a bit, and for the $100 difference skylake ain't too bad anymore.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mJkcdC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mJkcdC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2HP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($120.66 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1053.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:49 EST-0500

 

[MohammadKayed]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Well I got no idea then, here's a bunch of parts lists depending on your part availability

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dYWGWZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dYWGWZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($244.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($120.66 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $962.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:50 EST-0500

If you end up going skylake make sure your Motherboard has USB 3.1, it's the main draw of the platform, I suppose the prices have settled a bit, and for the $100 difference skylake ain't too bad anymore.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mJkcdC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mJkcdC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2HP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($68.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($120.66 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W5100 4GB Video Card  ($323.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1053.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-25 03:49 EST-0500

 

first thank you.
could you suggest me a quadro graphics card , i think the xeon is enough for such work no need to spend more money on skylake.
 

[Streetguru]

Just now, MohammadKayed said:

first thank you.
could you suggest me a quadro graphics card , i think the xeon is enough for such work no need to spend more money on skylake.
 

USB 3.1 is probably going to come in handy for much faster file transfer if you guys don't have like a NAS

 

K2200 quadro, cost a bit more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-video-card-vcqk2200pb

 

if that's not available, go 390, it has 8gbs of VRAM, doesn't have the drivers of a workstation GPU, but the VRAM should be useful for the 3D modeling.

[Frame Drops]

Quadro build : ( i spend little more $1300)

you can save some money by neglecting SSD, i think you know SSD will not increase render performance it will only reduce loading time.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FtQzzy

 

[MohammadKayed]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

USB 3.1 is probably going to come in handy for much faster file transfer if you guys don't have like a NAS

 

K2200 quadro, cost a bit more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-video-card-vcqk2200pb

 

if that's not available, go 390, it has 8gbs of VRAM, doesn't have the drivers of a workstation GPU, but the VRAM should be useful for the 3D modeling.

what you mean by NAS , there is a store tell me they have Firepro so i am thinking to go for Xeon and replace the SSD by Windows 10 , thank you.

[MohammadKayed]

i went know to computer store they give me these ??
 

INTEL XEON E5-2603 V3 PROCCESSOR

MOTHERBOARD X99-EVGA

RAM DD4 8GB*2=16GB DDR

SEAGATE / WD 1TB SATA

AMD FIRE PRO 4100 VGA CRAD  2GB

CASE CORSAIR300R

POWER SUPPLY CORSAIR CX600WATS

WINDOWS 10 PROFESSIONAL 64 BIT

CPU COOLER HYPER 212 / D92

it is 1,524.82 USD

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INTEL CORE-I7-6700 PROCESSOR

MOTHERBOARD H170-D3H

RAM DDR4 8GB 2400MHZ *2=16GB DDR4

WD BLACK HDD 1TB SATA 7200RPM

DVD R/W 24X SATA

VGA CARD GTX 950 2GB DDR5

POWER SUPPLY 500WATS 80 PLUS

CASE ATX DESKTOP CASING

WINDOWS 10 PROFESSIONAL 64 BIT OEM

 

1,184.46 USD

[Streetguru]

5 hours ago, MohammadKayed said:

 

The first one's Xeon runs at 1.6ghz base, it's going to be fairly slow

 

If you can swap the 950 for the 4100 firepro in the skylake build go for that.

 

and the Corsair CX power supplies are fairly sub par.

[MohammadKayed]

19 hours ago, Streetguru said:

The first one's Xeon runs at 1.6ghz base, it's going to be fairly slow

 

If you can swap the 950 for the 4100 firepro in the skylake build go for that.

 

and the Corsair CX power supplies are fairly sub par.

Ok i will swap , but if my manger said no is it good to keep 950 ?
and what you mean by fairly sub par ? my English is not very good

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, MohammadKayed said:

Ok i will swap , but if my manger said no is it good to keep 950 ?
and what you mean by fairly sub par ? my English is not very good

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=416

 

Performance	8
Functionality	8.5
Value	5
Build Quality	6
Total Score	7.1

So if there's something from Super Flower, or Seasonic, or XFX maybe, or EVGA, go for one of those PSUs, should be a bit better Gold Rated or higher would also possibly be useful for better efficiency.

[MohammadKayed]

On ‏٢٦‏/‏٠٢‏/‏٢٠١٦ at 5:23 PM, Streetguru said:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=416

 

Performance	8
Functionality	8.5
Value	5
Build Quality	6
Total Score	7.1

So if there's something from Super Flower, or Seasonic, or XFX maybe, or EVGA, go for one of those PSUs, should be a bit better Gold Rated or higher would also possibly be useful for better efficiency.

I will check thank you ,, but I want one more thing which better QUADRO 2 GB GDDR3 128-bit VCQK620 or AMD firepro w4100 because both same price .

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, MohammadKayed said:

GDDR3

What exact card is it? It seems that, the DDR3 would either mean it's old or really low end, I'd stick to the firepro probably, it's openCL adoption should keep software options wider than CUDA

If you scroll down to the overview there's a breakdown chart, granted it's AMD's marketing material, but overall the W4100 would be the card to get, least of which being it's display output options, 4 mini display ports is pretty nice to have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195132

[MohammadKayed]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What exact card is it? It seems that, the DDR3 would either mean it's old or really low end, I'd stick to the firepro probably, it's openCL adoption should keep software options wider than CUDA

If you scroll down to the overview there's a breakdown chart, granted it's AMD's marketing material, but overall the W4100 would be the card to get, least of which being it's display output options, 4 mini display ports is pretty nice to have.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195132

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133560&cm_re=nvidia_quadro_k620-_-14-133-560-_-Product

[MohammadKayed]

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2950&cmp[]=3019

[brob]

Presumably there is some sort of central storage, so having super fast storage and hdd should not be required. I would expect a SATA III ssd between 240GB and 500GB would be more than enough. Unless, of course workstations really do need much more storage.

 

Given reasonably light Revit use I doubt X99 cpu are needed. I would put the resources into more main memory and ssd. A Xeon E3-1241, i7-4790, or i7-6700 or better should be more than enough.

 

For a Haswell cpu I would look for a reasonably inexpensive motherboard, an H97 or even H81 (presuming compatible BIOS). Skylake has the H110 motherboard. One with 4 memory slots would be a reasonable choice. If the office uses WiFi then consider a mini-ITX motherboard and case. Otherwise I would suggest an mATX motherboard and case.

 

Check to see if Seasonic OEM psu are available. Depending on gpu selected, something like the SSP-350SE, SSP-350ST, or SSP-350GT or slightly larger would do.

 

Unless every user will use an optical drive regularly, I would suggest not putting them in workstations. They are usually not needed.

 

 

[MohammadKayed]

Do you recommend to go for r9 390 8gb instead of firepro 5100 ?

[brob]

1 hour ago, MohammadKayed said:

Do you recommend to go for r9 390 8gb instead of firepro 5100 ?

No.

[MohammadKayed]

1 hour ago, brob said:

No.

what is the difference between ?

[brob]

4 minutes ago, MohammadKayed said:

what is the difference between ?

The Firepro is designed and certified for the software being used. http://www.amd.com/Documents/FirePro-W5100-Data-Sheet.pdf

[MohammadKayed]

ok now i will decide I have final options 
quadro m4000 , firepro w7100 , gtx 980 , gtx 980 ti. please tell me in order which best 

[MohammadKayed]

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