First build, please take a look

[pithball]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Darth_Venator/saved/#view=Q4j6Mp

i am planning to build my first PC, here's the link, please take a look and see if I could do better for around the same price or the same for a lower price. Thanks!

 

I do plan to some what overclock after I buy a good fan cooler, to around 4ish ghz.

[Castdeath97]

You are better off with a stock i3 than a G3258, two cores without hyperthreading are simply not enough. Get a B150 board and a i3 6100.

[pithball]

1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

You are better off with a stock i3 than a G3258, two cores without hyperthreading are simply not enough. Get a B150 board and a i3 6100.

what about the I3-4170? its slightly cheaper.

[Castdeath97]

Just now, Hydraxiler32 said:

what about the I3-4170? its slightly cheaper.

If it's only slightly cheaper I won't get the i3 4170 since the i3 6100 is faster:

 

 

 

[pithball]

1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

If it's only slightly cheaper I won't get the i3 4170 since the i3 6100 is faster:

 

 

 

may look like a big noob question, but whats the difference between a $70 motherboard and a $120 one?

[Castdeath97]

Just now, Hydraxiler32 said:

may look like a big noob question, but whats the difference between a $70 motherboard and a $120 one?

Depends on the board, if you won't overclock just get a H110/B150/H170 board with 4 RAM slots.

[Castdeath97]

5 minutes ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

may look like a big noob question, but whats the difference between a $70 motherboard and a $120 one?

Some useful videos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Why not dual channel memory? 

[pithball]

Just now, Yames said:

Why not dual channel memory? 

single is cheaper

[pithball]

so got a new build.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Darth_Venator/saved/#view=6JPwrH

[Elehat]

I assume this'd be largely for gaming. I'd go for an i3 4170 and the cheapest h81 mobo you can get, 1x8gb DDR3 ram, and a 370. I'd also save by just using the stock thermal paste, and the fan is an unneeded luxury too.

 

The i3 6100 is only a little faster and the cost of cpu, mobo and ram make it difficult in a budget build. Also I heard bad things about DDR3 on skylake mobos, but am no expert. I think 370/950 is the minimum in the 'value' range for graphics cards.

[pithball]

Just now, Elehat said:

I assume this'd be largely for gaming. I'd go for an i3 4170 and the cheapest h81 mobo you can get, 1x8gb DDR3 ram, and a 370. I'd also save by just using the stock thermal paste, and the fan is an unneeded luxury too.

 

The i3 6100 is only a little faster and the cost of cpu, mobo and ram make it difficult in a budget build. Also I heard bad things about DDR3 on skylake mobos, but am no expert. I think 370/950 is the minimum in the 'value' range for graphics cards.

what about the 750 ti?

[pithball]

and does 80+ and 80+ bronze in the PSU matter?

[Cpt Buzzkill]

here you go buddy, cheaper and much better

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KLdpyc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KLdpyc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($123.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($39.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($4.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $500.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 06:07 EST-0500

[pithball]

3 minutes ago, Cpt Buzzkill said:

here you go buddy, cheaper and much better

 

<a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KLdpyc">PCPartPicker part list</a> / <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KLdpyc/by_merchant/">Price breakdown by merchant</a>
<table class="pcpp-part-list">
  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th>Type</th>
      <th>Item</th>
      <th>Price</th>
    </tr>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">CPU</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100">Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100">$123.88 @ OutletPC</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Motherboard</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150mmortar">MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150mmortar">$89.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Memory</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx421c14fbk28">Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx421c14fbk28">$39.10 @ Newegg</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Storage</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex">Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex">$49.89 @ OutletPC</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Video Card</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42956kr">EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0 Video Card</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42956kr">$149.99 @ NCIX US</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Case</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl80001w2z">Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl80001w2z">$22.99 @ Micro Center</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Power Supply</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr">EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr">$19.99 @ Newegg</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Case Fan</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-r4l2r20acgp">Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm  Fan</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-r4l2r20acgp">$4.99 @ Newegg</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price-note">Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts</td>
      <td></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal">Total (before mail-in rebates)</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal-price">$560.82</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal">Mail-in rebates</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal-price">-$60.00</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-total">Total</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-total-price">$500.82</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price-note">Generated by <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com">PCPartPicker</a> 2016-02-23 06:06 EST-0500</td>
      <td></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>

Thanks, but I live in Canada, so that's too much for me. I really appreciate it though.

 

Its $766 here..

[Elehat]

750Ti is also good at this price range, and is very power efficient (many models are powered exclusively from the pci-e slots! Your PSU is more than enough for any option in this price range though). 370 will generally give better performance/price ratio in most circumstances, though it depends on the games you play and the costs in your region.

 

80+ vs 80+ bronze is a comment about the efficiency of the psu (how much energy is sucks from the wall to give a certain wattage, and therefore how much heat is produces). The most important measures of a psu are not wattage or efficiency and are not given as metrics by the brands, so check the LTT psu tier list. I'd try to spend 10% of the cost of the build on a PSU, much like you'd spend a certain percentage of the cost of a bike on the lock.

[Cpt Buzzkill]

1 minute ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

Thanks, but I live in Canada, so that's too much for me. I really appreciate it though.

OOOHH my bad i didnt look into it, well if you can try to save up a little bit (well worth it). this build is quite strong ssooo let me see what i can do thou for canada version

[pithball]

3 minutes ago, Elehat said:

750Ti is also good at this price range, and is very power efficient (many models are powered exclusively from the pci-e slots! Your PSU is more than enough for any option in this price range though). 370 will generally give better performance/price ratio in most circumstances, though it depends on the games you play and the costs in your region.

 

80+ vs 80+ bronze is a comment about the efficiency of the psu (how much energy is sucks from the wall to give a certain wattage, and therefore how much heat is produces). The most important measures of a psu are not wattage or efficiency and are not given as metrics by the brands, so check the LTT psu tier list. I'd try to spend 10% of the cost of the build on a PSU, much like you'd spend a certain percentage of the cost of a bike on the lock.

Radeon R7 360 is actually better then 750 ti for cheaper on PCPP?

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-AMD-R7-360/2187vsm30045

[Cpt Buzzkill]

Here you go buddy, its a much better performer then what you got there, enjoy your gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KyH6TW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KyH6TW/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($168.75 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($56.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.15 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $597.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 06:15 EST-0500

[pithball]

7 minutes ago, Cpt Buzzkill said:

Here you go buddy, its a much better performer then what you got there, enjoy your gaming

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KyH6TW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/KyH6TW/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($168.75 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($56.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.15 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $597.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 06:15 EST-0500

thank you!

[Elehat]

4 minutes ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

Radeon R7 360 is actually better then 750 ti for cheaper on PCPP?

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-AMD-R7-360/2187vsm30045

As noted, my recommendation would be a 370. The discussion of graphics cards is very murky with lots of people liking different things. I generally prefer the Radeon cards out at the moment, but many people like Nvidia so I was giving options from both sides. Also comparing gpus should be done in real benchmarks on games you'll actually play because they vary so much. 

[pithball]

How are these 2 graphics cards different?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125796R&cm_re=r7_360-_-14-125-796R-_-Product

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202196&cm_re=r7_360-_-14-202-196-_-Product

 

[Elehat]

Graphics cards of the same type are made by different manufacturers, who will be given a reference design but can then use different parts (except for processor itself) which can alter power delivery, VRAM capacity and the like. However, most of the time the difference is only in the quality of the cooler and the factory clocking. Except in specific circumstances (like top end builds and 380 2GB vs 4GB on multi display), I'd recommend just getting the cheapest card available of a given type.  

[Cpt Buzzkill]

1 - r7 360 is worse then 750 ti (AND EVEN WORSE if you overclock 750ti which you can . i done it. and it was magic)

2 - if you guys didnt notice OP is on VERY strict budget thats why i made 2 builds so no point sugesting 370 when he cant afford it and if he could it would be better to go for 950 because it our performce in almost everygame, and again if u spend time overclocking it it goes much beyond 370.

[Elehat]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($150.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($46.50 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.75 @ shopRBC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card  ($159.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($25.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $556.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 07:16 EST-0500

 

370 is in budget.