Advice needed OC 3570k

[Solaihs]

Ok so I've been overclocking my CPU to 4.5Ghz and recently decided to try to get to 4.8 (which at the time of writing seems to require a serious overvolting)

 

I've read that lots of people are managing to get far higher overclocks than I've managed on an i53570k with a much lower voltage.

 

At time of writing this the highest stable overclock i've managed is 4.5Ghz with a voltage of 1.375. Is this normal? I can't seem to even touch 4.6 at all when volting up in increments of .05 to check for stability.

 

My set up is a Gigabyte Sniper M3 mobo with a H100 cooler by corsair so I'm seriously wondering if it's just the limitation of my particular chip (which I've heard can be the issue) or one of my components is just buggered and I haven't noticed (seriously hope not, everything works fine)

 

Please help!

 

EDIT: When running on auto volt settings the voltage ramps up to 1.48 max under Prime95.

[WoodenMarker]

Same here--might just be your chip. (Well I can hit 4.6)

[Solaihs]

Same here--might just be your chip. (Well I can hit 4.6)

 

Oh well at least that's some peace of mind if it's not just unique happening to mine. Guess we just got a bit unlucky in the draw! I've seen some i5's going up to 5Ghz on less than I'm using to achieve 4/6 (or at least people have said as much)

[WoodenMarker]

Oh well at least that's some peace of mind if it's not just unique happening to mine. Guess we just got a bit unlucky in the draw! I've seen some i5's going up to 5Ghz on less than I'm using to achieve 4/6 (or at least people have said as much)

Yeah, I was hoping to hit 4.8 ghz with my chip when I got it too >.<

How are your temps?

[Solaihs]

Yeah, I was hoping to hit 4.8 ghz with my chip when I got it too >.<

How are your temps?

Well at 4.5 Ghz it'll get up to 70-75, using the auto volt for 4.6 is hitting 80+ and using a LOT more voltage than I was (by about .7/ .8)

[WoodenMarker]

Well at 4.5 Ghz it'll get up to 70-75, using the auto volt for 4.6 is hitting 80+ and using a LOT more voltage than I was (by about .7/ .8)

Does it get loud? I was thinking you might want to replace your fans just for some quiet operation.

[Solaihs]

Does it get loud? I was thinking you might want to replace your fans just for some quiet operation.

I'm using the Corsair H100 all in one cooler on the second setting which is fairly quiet unless under 100% load, it gets loud but not unbearable. I plan to change the stock fans to their high static pressure ones as well so hopefully that'll help the temperature come back down a little too. Also I'm running 4.5 @ 1.37V

[WoodenMarker]

I'm using the Corsair H100 all in one cooler on the second setting which is fairly quiet unless under 100% load, it gets loud but not unbearable. I plan to change the stock fans to their high static pressure ones as well so hopefully that'll help the temperature come back down a little too. Also I'm running 4.5 @ 1.37V

Ahh--the static pressure fans (although good) are loud compared to other options available like Gelids or Rosewill Hyperboreas. Where are you shopping?

[Jozi]

Oh well at least that's some peace of mind if it's not just unique happening to mine. Guess we just got a bit unlucky in the draw! I've seen some i5's going up to 5Ghz on less than I'm using to achieve 4/6 (or at least people have said as much)

Well my i5 3570k can go 4.6-4.7GHz with 1.235V after I updated my bios. Before bios update I got to 4.5GHz with those volts. And my i5 needed 1.448V for 5GHz and thast way too high ^^ so it pretty much comes down to the silicon lottery. Good motherboard can make a difference when trying to find max clocks.

[Solaihs]

Ahh--the static pressure fans (although good) are loud compared to other options available like Gelids or Rosewill Hyperboreas. Where are you shopping?

I was just planning on getting the Corsair stuff and shopping around, I want 140AF's for the front of my case and 120Static pressure ones for the top, I haven't looked at prices yet as I plant o get them in about 2 weeks time so I'll look around then

 

Well my i5 3570k can go 4.6-4.7GHz with 1.235V after I updated my bios. Before bios update I got to 4.5GHz with those volts. And my i5 needed 1.448V for 5GHz and thast way too high ^^ so it pretty much comes down to the silicon lottery. Good motherboard can make a difference when trying to find max clocks.

Ahh that's cool, yeah it really does seem that way. 4.5Ghz isn't bad, but I had hoped for more! Hopefully there'll be a bios update for me too which improves overclocking performance

[Wats]

Bios updates do help sometimes. Just keep playing in the bios. You've been using LLC, right? Cut out that Vdroop or even boost the Vcore while under load. Again, play.

 

 

 

Could also try reducing the memory to 1333 just for the mean time. Prolly won't help too much but it will make troubleshooting easier not having memory problems.

[Solaihs]

Bios updates do help sometimes. Just keep playing in the bios. You've been using LLC, right? Cut out that Vdroop or even boost the Vcore while under load. Again, play.

 

 

 

Could also try reducing the memory to 1333 just for the mean time. Prolly won't help too much but it will make troubleshooting easier not having memory problems.

Thanks for the tips

[WoodenMarker]

I was just planning on getting the Corsair stuff and shopping around, I want 140AF's for the front of my case and 120Static pressure ones for the top, I haven't looked at prices yet as I plant o get them in about 2 weeks time so I'll look around then

I was asking for where you are shopping as in region/shop/currency. Without knowing any of these, it's hard to tell what to recommend as parts and prices vary from region to region.

[Face2Face]

My 3570K will do 4.8Ghz stable @ 1.3v - but to hit 5.0Ghz stable i need 1.45v.  200Mhz is not worth having to delid and pump that much volts into ivy. So it stays at 4.8Ghz with no delid and maxes out playing games @ 70c with h100i

[airdeano]

Ok so I've been overclocking my CPU to 4.5Ghz and recently decided to try to get to 4.8 (which at the time of writing seems to require a serious overvolting)

 

I've read that lots of people are managing to get far higher overclocks than I've managed on an i53570k with a much lower voltage.

 

At time of writing this the highest stable overclock i've managed is 4.5Ghz with a voltage of 1.375. Is this normal? I can't seem to even touch 4.6 at all when volting up in increments of .05 to check for stability.

 

My set up is a Gigabyte Sniper M3 mobo with a H100 cooler by corsair so I'm seriously wondering if it's just the limitation of my particular chip (which I've heard can be the issue) or one of my components is just buggered and I haven't noticed (seriously hope not, everything works fine)

 

Please help!

 

EDIT: When running on auto volt settings the voltage ramps up to 1.48 max under Prime95.

 

please stop using AUTO for CPU voltage on manual overclocking. you have no

control on over-voltage. 1.48 is what might be showing, but on other parts of the

DIE, it is more.

 

going back to your overclock, you should have the TURBO disabled, EIST and

C-States disabled, LLC to 100% or extreme, and your RAM in a quasi-clock

(timings manually set, but voltage at 1.5 and speed at 1600).

using what stress app for load and temperature generation? Intel Burn Test,

OCCT, P95? what settings? time of test?

 

have you seen this video? uses the same UEFI as the G5.

 

airdeano

[Solaihs]

please stop using AUTO for CPU voltage on manual overclocking. you have no

control on over-voltage. 1.48 is what might be showing, but on other parts of the

DIE, it is more.

 

going back to your overclock, you should have the TURBO disabled, EIST and

C-States disabled, LLC to 100% or extreme, and your RAM in a quasi-clock

(timings manually set, but voltage at 1.5 and speed at 1600).

using what stress app for load and temperature generation? Intel Burn Test,

OCCT, P95? what settings? time of test?

 

have you seen this video? uses the same UEFI as the G5.

 

airdeano

Heya I was using Prime 95. I don't usually use the auto voltage setting, I was only using it as a rough guide for what the system thinks the CPU needed for a 4.6Ghz overclock.

 

Also just watching the video now thanks

[Solaihs]

Right so having looked at the video, in his example he's clocked his memory up to 1600mhz. I have dual channel corsair value memory (try not to laugh) that's meant to run at 1333mhz, but it's showing 666mhz, this is effectively doubled by being dual channel though right? Is this correct?

[airdeano]

Right so having looked at the video, in his example he's clocked his memory up to 1600mhz. I have dual channel corsair value memory (try not to laugh) that's meant to run at 1333mhz, but it's showing 666mhz, this is effectively doubled by being dual channel though right? Is this correct?

 

correct 2x 666 is 1333.

 

airdeano

[rhyseyness]

Consider yourself lucky. I need well over 1.3V to hit 4.4GHz on my 3570k, by which point my temperatures are well out of the safe range.

Mine's at 4GHz currently and still needs 1.2V. To push to 4.2GHz I need 1.28V to be stable.

If you think you're unlucky though, I'd be more than happy to swap chips

[Solaihs]

Consider yourself lucky. I need well over 1.3V to hit 4.4GHz on my 3570k, by which point my temperatures are well out of the safe range.

Mine's at 4GHz currently and still needs 1.2V. To push to 4.2GHz I need 1.28V to be stable.

If you think you're unlucky though, I'd be more than happy to swap chips

I guess it's always easier to look at the greener grass on the other side I think I just expected to be able to get higher with the fancy shmancy cooler I have at the moment. I'm following the video guide and apparently my CPU runs stable at 1.21V @ 4.2Ghz. The increment in voltage to get to 4.5 I was doing is either just enormous or I was doing something wrong (which I'm just testing for, following the video guide someone else linked in this thread)

[Solaihs]

correct 2x 666 is 1333.

 

airdeano

Thanks dude, I've been following that guide and noticed that regardless of what I've been setting the voltage to my CPU will still (under load) overvolt past it, for example currently I'm at 4.2Ghz and I've set the voltage in the BIOS to be 1.215, yet CPU-Z is reporting that during OCCT testing it's going up to 1.236V. Is this normal?

 

(anyone can chime in here)

[airdeano]

yes.. that's what LLC does to keep the voltage from dropping (about .080v) and

triggering unstable.

 

when you had the chip at stock with AUTO on and no changes, what was the

voltage the system called for when it was stock? CPU-Z or OCCT?

 

airdeano

[monstaYOFACE]

If you don't care about warrity delid your CPU, apply coollaboratory ultra on the die and enjoy your -15ºC.

[rhyseyness]

I guess it's always easier to look at the greener grass on the other side I think I just expected to be able to get higher with the fancy shmancy cooler I have at the moment. I'm following the video guide and apparently my CPU runs stable at 1.21V @ 4.2Ghz. The increment in voltage to get to 4.5 I was doing is either just enormous or I was doing something wrong (which I'm just testing for, following the video guide someone else linked in this thread)

 

Fair enough. I bought a H100i thinking "Yea! 4.5GHz no problem!" and the reality is, it really is the luck of the draw. We were obviously unlucky.Tbh, I think both our chips are just as bad as each others. Hopefully karma will help us out when we upgrade, and give us a top 10% chip

[Leonard]

You may be getting this due to 4 problems...

 

1) That is just the quality of your CPU

 

2) You may need a custom cooling solution

 

3) It may be your approach to OCing ( although you have not given a detailed description of how you approached your OC, this is a common problem.

 

4) The UEFI version you have running may not allow you to get the OC you are looking for. I say this because for me going from UEFI version 1902 which did not allow me to get to 4.7ghz with 1.205v to UEFI version 2204, which seems to be more OC forgiving has allowed me to get to the voltage i am at now.

 

My estimation for you would be one of or a combination the first three. I have my 3570k @ 4.7ghz with 1.205v via offset voltage and it does 4.5ghz with 1.159v via offset voltage. I use a custom 360rad loop.