Non-k overclocking

[Julien98]

Ooookayy, I have a 3.2Ghz core i5 3470 and now I want to overclock it. It is on an Asrock z77 extreme 4 and it can overclock my chip up to 4Ghz (that represents a 25% gain in clock-speed). The question: should i do it? I have plenty of cooling (Corsair H110) to cool the faulty level 3 cache that might be solicitated. I have a few questions to how I shoud proceed with the voltages and limits for my overclocking. My boards uefi has an auto oc button but i do not trust it due to the fact that this board was made at an early stage of developpement of Uefi's and OC-Ai in general. Stock under loads it runs at about 66-67 degrees C. Thank you all for your answers in advance.

 

Sincerely,

Julien

 

The f**k i wrote a letter, kek!

[Julien98]

I can provide more info if asked (24 hours to reply max).

[MattShnoop]

I'd like to know about this too... I have the same CPU.

[BrinkGG]

1 minute ago, Julien98 said:

I can provide more info if asked (24 hours to reply max).

You mean 3470k? 

[MattShnoop]

Just now, Brink2Three said:

You mean 3470k? 

The title says overclocking a "non-k" CPU... That's what made me curious... I've always been kinda bummed I can't OC mine until I get a new one, but apparently he has?

[Julien98]

1 minute ago, Brink2Three said:

You mean 3470k? 

It is a non-k processor

[Julien98]

http://ark.intel.com/fr/products/68316/Intel-Core-i5-3470-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

[DocSwag]

Lol I never knew you could do this with Ivy Bridge.

[Julien98]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Lol I never knew you could do this with Ivy Bridge.

You can do it with most cpu's (as long as your uefi and Motherboard supports it)

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, Julien98 said:

You can do it with most cpu's (as long as your uefi and Motherboard supports it)

but aren't there other issues with it? I thought that it messed with PCIe timings and other important stuff.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure on anything pre skylake that's not super old it affects pcie timings, ram lane timings, sata ports, among a host of other things.

I feel like it isn't too safe...

[Julien98]

Just now, DocSwag said:

but aren't there other issues with it? I thought that it messed with PCIe timings and other important stuff.

I dont really care about that enough to verify if it is true BUT the people who told you that maybe just wanted to protect you from burning your cpu. Mine is on the fringe of breaking wsince the max temp is 67.4 and i got to 68 with further testing.

[manofsteel]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

but aren't there other issues with it? I thought that it messed with PCIe timings and other important stuff.

Yes they are thats why most of uefis didint had an option to OC non-K CPU due to fact that it will screw the GPU and RAM and CHIPSET itself i think when doing it the BCLK way . It was possible on skylake platform before intel update due to fact most things were not related to BCLK (only ram left i think) so yea you shouldnt unless you want to frie an entire system

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Julien98 said:

I dont really care about that enough to verify if it is true BUT the people who told you that maybe just wanted to protect you from burning your cpu. Mine is on the fringe of breaking wsince the max temp is 67.4 and i got to 68 with further testing.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1235186/beginner-here-need-to-know-about-bclk-overclocking-on-sb

These guys seem to know what they are talking about. BCLK can affect all the bus timings for all the different connections. If you ask me I wouldn't want to mess with that...

Personally if I were you I wouldn't do it

[manofsteel]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1235186/beginner-here-need-to-know-about-bclk-overclocking-on-sb

These guys seem to know what they are talking about. BCLK can affect all the bus timings for all the different connections. If you ask me I wouldn't want to mess with that...

Personally if I were you I wouldn't do it

CALLED IT! 

 

And yes the OP should not do it as i mentioned earlier. Too bad intel baned OC the non-k skylake chips :F.

[Julien98]

2 minutes ago, manofsteel said:

Yes they are thats why most of uefis didint had an option to OC non-K CPU due to fact that it will screw the GPU and RAM and CHIPSET itself i think when doing it the BCLK way . It was possible on skylake platform before intel update due to fact most things were not related to BCLK (only ram left i think) so yea you shouldnt unless you want to frie an entire system

rest assured, i did not touch my BCLK, it is still at 100Mhz and my board is doing just fine (34 degrees under load)

[manofsteel]

Just now, Julien98 said:

rest assured, i did not touch my BCLK, it is still at 100Mhz and my board is doing just fine (34 degrees under load)

the non-K CPU's can not be OC'ed by multiplayer cuz its locked and only way to do it is by BLCK no other so yea you cant do it without touchin BLCK. BTW MB temp does not matter much the CPU and GPU and RAM matters cuz they produce the main source of heat

[givegomezthegun]

If you just used the multiplier you should be fine running that.  My non K 3770 will let me adjust the multiplier up to 4.1, or 200mhz faster than it's turbo speed but thats where it ends.

[Julien98]

3 minutes ago, manofsteel said:

the non-K CPU's can not be OC'ed by multiplayer cuz its locked and only way to do it is by BLCK no other so yea you cant do it without touchin BLCK. BTW MB temp does not matter much the CPU and GPU and RAM matters cuz they produce the main source of heat

I will provide you with pictures of my uefi showing me the multiplier, i have it set to auto but i can acess it with manual mode. It is set to 32 on my cpu.

EDIT: I can set it to 40 max with every core at 4Ghz and turbo over it...

[Julien98]

3 minutes ago, givegomezthegun said:

If you just used the multiplier you should be fine running that.  My non K 3770 will let me adjust the multiplier up to 4.1, or 200mhz faster than it's turbo speed but thats where it ends.

I looked a long time for a 3770k but it was discontinued and did not want to switch mobos so i thinkered a little, looks like i have to look no further..

[manofsteel]

Even if it is showing multiplayer it will not save changes or apply it the good way i think . Like i have multiplayer myself (ha i can even type something in turbo boost speed) but i doubt it will work as you might think it should :F

[Julien98]

7 minutes ago, manofsteel said:

Even if it is showing multiplayer it will not save changes or apply it the good way i think . Like i have multiplayer myself (ha i can even type something in turbo boost speed) but i doubt it will work as you might think it should :F

As you can see on the picture, the max speed achieved by the chip is 4Ghz, it then means that the multiplier was applied correctly, right?

[Coaxialgamer]

Use limited overclocking to crank up the multiplier as high as it can go,  then add a few megahertz to the BCLOCK.