Dual Xeon Workstation

[BiologicalRobot]

I have a question about my father and I's project and its about the case I can use for a dual cpu lga 1366 motherboard for our little side project. We can find all the parts but we weren't sure what the size of the motherboards are.

Thank you guys/gals in advance

[19_blackie_73]

link for the mobo?

[PCgamer324]

why do you need dual 1366...

 

my guess is you don't

[2FA]

SSI EEB will fit in a case that supports XL-ATX.

[BiologicalRobot]

2 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

link for the mobo?

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DTi-F.cfm

Maybe not the exact one but close

[BiologicalRobot]

3 minutes ago, PCgamer324 said:

why do you need dual 1366...

 

my guess is you don't

We will use it to run virtual machines and its just a cheap project. Just because we don't need it doesn't mean we can't do it.

[PCgamer324]

watch out when you run VM's on 1366.  Not all boards play nice (I know form experience, I've used two 1366 boards for VM stuff)  Depending on PCIe switch configuration, VT-D doesn't work well despite being advertised as such (sometimes not at all due to DMA collisions with IOMMU tables). If you are planning on running QEMU KVM / XEN / Proxmox then have have to deal with PCIe flapping on boot (ICH and 5520 have issues depending on board)  Also realize that a lot of the used 1366 CPU's for cheap on ebay have been removed due to board failure and sometimes have MCH problems when booting.

[BiologicalRobot]

Just now, PCgamer324 said:

watch out when you run VM's on 1366.  Not all boards play nice (I know form experience, I've used two 1366 boards for VM stuff)  Depending on PCIe switch configuration, VT-D doesn't work well despite being advertised as such. If you are planning on running QEMU KVM / XEN / Proxmox then have have to deal with PCIe flapping on boot (ICH and 5520 have issues depending on board)  Also realize that a lot of the used 1366 CPU's for cheap on ebay have been removed due to board failure and sometimes have MCH problems when booting.

Thanks for informing me and I was thinking either dual 1366 or dual 2011 v3 so are the 2011 v3's have any luck?

[PCgamer324]

Just now, BiologicalRobot said:

Thanks for informing me and I was thinking either dual 1366 or dual 2011 v3 so are the 2011 v3's have any luck?

well dual 2011-v3 is obscenely expensive (3k - 4k +)

AMD 8350 is a viable option for virtual machines and should be considered (much better than an i7)

[2FA]

1 minute ago, BiologicalRobot said:

Thanks for informing me and I was thinking either dual 1366 or dual 2011 v3 so are the 2011 v3's have any luck?

You can get E5-2670's for under $100 on Ebay, they would be Sandy Bridge based.

[BiologicalRobot]

Just now, PCgamer324 said:

well dual 2011-v3 is obscenely expensive (3k - 4k +)

AMD 8350 is a viable option for virtual machines and should be considered (much better than an i7)

Yeah they can get expensive but it wont be ruled out just yet lol

[BiologicalRobot]

2 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

You can get E5-2670's for under $100 on Ebay, they would be Sandy Bridge based.

Yeah I searched them up and they seemed very good. Thanks for the suggestion. The xeons I wanted before scored an 11000 where as the e5-2670's scored an 18000

[PCgamer324]

2 minutes ago, BiologicalRobot said:

Yeah I searched them up and they seemed very good. Thanks for the suggestion. The xeons I wanted before scored an 11000 where as the e5-2670's scored an 18000

what benchmark?

 

nothing can beat OC'd 4.6ghz X5680  

[BiologicalRobot]

1 minute ago, PCgamer324 said:

what benchmark?

 

nothing can beat OC'd 4.6ghz X5680  

https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2670+%40+2.60GHz&id=1220&cpuCount=2

This is what I found

[PCgamer324]

Just now, BiologicalRobot said:

https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2670+%40+2.60GHz&id=1220&cpuCount=2

This is what I found

never use passmark for CPU performance

 

try Cinebench R15

[BiologicalRobot]

Just now, PCgamer324 said:

never use passmark for CPU performance

 

try Cinebench R15

oh okay thanks and I might get the x5680 for the extra $100 per cpu

[PCgamer324]

5 minutes ago, BiologicalRobot said:

oh okay thanks and I might get the x5680 for the extra $100 per cpu

X5680s aren't amazing (especially for OS virtualization)   2.0-3ghz just doesn't cut it a lot of the time (why I'm not a fan of E5 parts despite higher core count) 

 

Overclocked X5680s are awesome (EVGA SR-2 FTW)

[BiologicalRobot]

3 minutes ago, PCgamer324 said:

X5680s aren't amazing (especially for OS virtualization) 

 

Overclocked X5680s are awesome (EVGA SR-2 FTW)

Yeah I saw that motherboard in a build and I wanted that one in my build but the only problem is finding one

[BiologicalRobot]

4 minutes ago, PCgamer324 said:

X5680s aren't amazing (especially for OS virtualization) 

 

Overclocked X5680s are awesome (EVGA SR-2 FTW)

Worst case is not using the EVGA SR-2

[PCgamer324]

3 minutes ago, PCgamer324 said:

X5680s aren't amazing (especially for OS virtualization) 

 

Overclocked X5680s are awesome

yeah only problem is its damn near impossible to find one of those in functional condition (lot of the ones on ebay have burned VRMs / ICH)  Plus its a major undertaking to get working properly / overclocked 

[BiologicalRobot]

Just now, PCgamer324 said:

yeah only problem is its damn near impossible to find one of those in functional condition (lot of the ones on ebay have burned VRMs / ICH)  Plus its a major undertaking to get working properly / overclocked 

We want the undertaking part because we like the challenge but the burned VRMs/ICH is a problem

[PCgamer324]

1 minute ago, BiologicalRobot said:

We want the undertaking part because we like the challenge but the burned VRMs/ICH is a problem

you're first problem is even finding one

I've probably put 400+ hours into my SR-2 setup getting it running smoothly

[BiologicalRobot]

Just now, PCgamer324 said:

you're first problem is even finding one

I've probably put 400+ hours into my SR-2 setup getting it running smoothly

lol yeah but if I can't find one then its not a big deal. Its mainly a project and when its done then it'll be a cool centerpiece

[PCgamer324]

4 minutes ago, BiologicalRobot said:

lol yeah but if I can't find one then its not a big deal. Its mainly a project and when its done then it'll be a cool centerpiece

what a waste of good hardware if you don't even use it much...  

[BiologicalRobot]

12 minutes ago, PCgamer324 said:

what a waste of good hardware if you don't even use it much...  

We'll be using it when we aren't gaming since I have an i7-6700k, 32gb of ddr4 ram @ 2400mhz, asus maximus VIII Hero, gtx titan (soon to be sli), all in a 750d oh and two 500gb ssds with a 256gb m.2 sata