build Looking for a build critique

[Trucidicus]

Hello everyone,

 

I am in the process of picking parts for my new beefy ball busting gaming PC build. I'm going all out in what I think is overkill for my tastes.

 

Here is the PCPartpicker list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n2R6YJ

 

I have a few questions as I am planning to water cool this in a customer loop with the CPU and GPU. I am very new to water cooling and have been reading as much material on water cooling for weeks now. I have watched Linus' videos on it including the forms Water Cooling 101 thread. I am confident I will be able to complete the build, the only obstacle is getting advice on water cooling parts and perhaps my GPU choice(reference vs non-reference).

 

1. Please critique this build as I want to know if I have made any glaringly obvious mistakes. I have been building PC's for a while now but I have not actively bought parts in about 2/3 years for myself.

 

2. The GPU for water-cooling, I chose the EVGA GeForce GTX 980ti Superclocked GPU as I wanted power and I like the look of the EVGA personally(Might be a bit redundant with water cooling anyway)

 

3. Any advice for a first time water cooling build? Personal advice from people experienced with their own builds is what I lack. To clarify the water cooling plan, I only wish to water cool the CPU and GPU only. 

 

FYI, I have already built my own gaming PC years ago but it's time for an upgrade and I have some money to invest into this machine, hence the obvious high budget. 

 

I live in Ireland so most of my purchases will be primarily from the EU, Hardwareversand.de (sorry if I'm not allowed to link to other shopping sites). The rest I will source from the usual sites, Amazon, Crucial etc.

 

I hope I don't come off a bit strong in this thread but I am looking to be scolded before I dip my hand into my wallet and fork out money for a part that I should not buy.

 

PC games this build is geared towards. 1440p, max-ultra settings games like Witcher 3, Arma 3, DayZ, Star Citizen and any other heavy hitting AAA titles for the coming years. 

 

Thanks in advance for reading this far if you made it. 

Edit: This build has a white theme hence some oft he parts being white (case mobo and water cooling later on).

EDIT 2: Revising the MOBO and PSU and going 2x8GB RAM. 

EDIT 3: I have gone with Kingston HyperX Savage 2x8GB -2400Mhz - CL12 RAM. Changed the PCPartPicker list to refelcet changes taken from this thread.

[Becausei'mBatman]

just dont see the point for 1000w powersupply, if you will want a lot of upgrades, then i don't see why not.

[DocSwag]

Don't get that motherboard. There are better options out there. If you are doing a water cooling one that means you have some money to burn. A good all around one is the Asus Maximus Hero VIII. If you are going for highest overclock on CPU possible the Asrock OC Formula is good too.

Also no point in getting 4x4gb ram. It performs the same as 2x8gb, costs more, and gives less upgrade room.

[DocSwag]

Hello everyone,

 

I am in the process of picking parts for my new beefy ball busting gaming PC build. I'm going all out in what I think is overkill for my tastes.

 

Here is the PCPartpicker list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c99tjX

 

I have a few questions as I am planning to water cool this in a customer loop with the CPU and GPU. I am very new to water cooling and have been reading as much material on water cooling for weeks now. I have watched Linus' videos on it including the forms Water Cooling 101 thread. I am confident I will be able to complete the build, the only obstacle is getting advice on water cooling parts and perhaps my GPU choice(reference vs non-reference).

 

1. Please critique this build as I want to know if I have made any glaringly obvious mistakes. I have been building PC's for a while now but I have not actively bought parts in about 2/3 years for myself.

 

2. The GPU for water-cooling, I chose the EVGA GeForce GTX 980ti Superclocked GPU as I wanted power and I like the look of the EVGA personally(Might be a bit redundant with water cooling anyway)

 

3. Any advice for a first time water cooling build? Personal advice from people experienced with their own builds is what I lack.

 

FYI, I have already built my own gaming PC years ago but it's time for an upgrade and I have some money to invest into this machine, hence the obvious high budget. 

 

I live in Ireland so most of my purchases will be primarily from the EU, Hardwareversand.de (sorry if I'm not allowed to link to other shopping sites). The rest I will source from the usual sites, Amazon, Crucial etc.

 

I hope I don't come off a bit strong in this thread but I am looking to be scolded before I dip my hand into my wallet and fork out money for a part that I should not buy.

 

PC games this build is geared towards. 1440p, max-ultra settings games like Witcher 3, Arma 3, DayZ, Star Citizen and any other heavy hitting AAA titles for the coming years. 

 

Thanks in advance for reading this far if you made it. 

Also please follow your own topics.

[Trucidicus]

just dont see the point for 1000w powersupply, if you will want a lot of upgrades, then i don't see why not.

Do you recommend a lower watt PSU?

[Trucidicus]

Don't get that motherboard. There are better options out there. If you are doing a water cooling one that means you have some money to burn. A good all around one is the Asus Maximus Hero VIII. If you are going for highest overclock on CPU possible the Asrock OC Formula is good too.

Also no point in getting 4x4gb ram. It performs the same as 2x8gb, costs more, and gives less upgrade room.

Thanks, I'll rectify the RAM to 2x8gb sticks. The MOBO, what caught my eye is the white alongside the mobo itself. I failed to mention it is a white themed build. Thanks for replying!

[Becausei'mBatman]

Do you recommend a lower watt PSU?

yes, linus was talking about how if you get an overkill psu example: a system that draws 500w you get 1000w, that psu will actually draw more than 500w from the wall and your electricity bill will be higher

[Trucidicus]

yes, linus was talking about how if you get an overkill psu example: a system that draws 500w you get 1000w, that psu will actually draw more than 500w from the wall and your electricity bill will be higher

Thanks, and if I wished to SLI in the future perhaps 6 - 12 months, I suppose between 600W-850W PSU is plenty? I'm too used to my meager 400W PSU and I guess I was over zealous with the increase in wattage.

[DocSwag]

Thanks, I'll rectify the RAM to 2x8gb sticks. The MOBO, what caught my eye is the white alongside the mobo itself. I failed to mention it is a white themed build. Thanks for replying!

ah I see. I happen to have that mobo, and while it is decent, it is missing a few features including LLC as well as having two graphics card will block two of your sata ports. Also it can only use 6 of the ATX screws, instead of all 9 (it is not as wide as most). It's decent, but I believe there are better options out there.

[Becausei'mBatman]

Thanks, and if I wished to SLI in the future perhaps 6 - 12 months, I suppose between 600W-850W PSU is plenty? I'm too used to my meager 400W PSU and I guess I was over zealous with the increase in wattage.

yeah 750-800 is very much future proof, 1000w is for overkill amd systems

[Trucidicus]

ah I see. I happen to have that mobo, and while it is decent, it is missing a few features including LLC as well as having two graphics card will block two of your sata ports. Also it can only use 6 of the ATX screws, instead of all 9 (it is not as wide as most). It's decent, but I believe there are better options out there.

This is exactly what I needed to hear. First hand experience with parts. Thanks. I will definitely consider other MOBO options as I wish to have plenty space for expansion, two way SLI etc. I hate having a small case/mobo. No room is a pain. 

[Trucidicus]

yeah 750-800 is very much future proof, 1000w is for overkill amd systems

Thanks very much. You've saved me money and I love you for that.

[Caine]

you don't need a 1000w psu. 750-850 will be just fine.

 

also, get a better gpu from evga like this one:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44998kr

 

I would get this psu instead:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr

 

edit:

 

get a samsung 850 evo ssd instead

[DocSwag]

you don't need a 1000w psu. 750-850 will be just fine.

 

also, get a better gpu from evga like this one:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44998kr

 

I would get this psu instead:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr

 

edit:

 

get a samsung 850 evo ssd instead

Wow didn't know the 980 ti classfied was that cheap now! That is an amazing deal.

[Trucidicus]

you don't need a 1000w psu. 750-850 will be just fine.

 

also, get a better gpu from evga like this one:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44998kr

 

I would get this psu instead:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr

 

edit:

 

get a samsung 850 evo ssd instead

I'll look into the GPU and PSU. The SSD is already bought. Got it on a deal. Also I've always had Crucial SSD's and I love them. Never had a problem with them. Thanks for the evo recommendation though.

[Trucidicus]

Wow didn't know the 980 ti classfied was that cheap now! That is an amazing deal.

Is there an advantage to this card over the one I had picked? I have yet to research this one. Does the term "classified" have any significance?

[DocSwag]

Is there an advantage to this card over the one I had picked? I have yet to research this one. Does the term "classified" have any significance?

Yes it does. EVGA's Classified chips are their second best. You may or may not know that all chips are not created equal. Because they are not equal, some are more efficient than others and some overclock better than others. All of EVGA's Classified GPUs have their chips "binned" so that only the best overclockers are actually put into the GPU. EVGA makes one line of 980 tis that are even better than the classified, this was being called the Kingpin, but those GPUs are all 850 dollars+ and won't offer much more overclocking than the Classified. Basically GPUs overclock better than most others. As well it is a custom PCB, meaning EVGA designs the circuitry on the board themselves, which also means better power delivery as well as better components. This GPU normally goes for 700 bucks but at 640 dollars (the price of most 980 tis) it is a steal. Usually the number most 980 ti overclockers aim for is 1500 mhz, and nearly all Classified GPUs can hit that number. The SC is a decent 980 ti, but the Classified definitely is better. 

[Trucidicus]

On 30/01/2016 at 2:12 PM, DocSwag said:

Is there an advantage to this card over the one I had picked? I have yet to research this one. Does the term "classified" have any significance?

Yes it does. EVGA's Classified chips are their second best. You may or may not know that all chips are not created equal. Because they are not equal, some are more efficient than others and some overclock better than others. All of EVGA's Classified GPUs have their chips "binned" so that only the best overclockers are actually put into the GPU. EVGA makes one line of 980 tis that are even better than the classified, this was being called the Kingpin, but those GPUs are all 850 dollars+ and won't offer much more overclocking than the Classified. Basically GPUs overclock better than most others. As well it is a custom PCB, meaning EVGA designs the circuitry on the board themselves, which also means better power delivery as well as better components. This GPU normally goes for 700 bucks but at 640 dollars (the price of most 980 tis) it is a steal. Usually the number most 980 ti overclockers aim for is 1500 mhz, and nearly all Classified GPUs can hit that number. The SC is a decent 980 ti, but the Classified definitely is better. 

Thank you for the very detailed and informative answer. I learn something new everyday!

 

 I'll definitely look into the Classified tier 980. I guess it does not classify as a reference card? I'm still looking into Watercooling parts and am searching for a nice backplate for it.

[DocSwag]

38 minutes ago, Trucidicus said:

Thank you for the very detailed and informative answer. I learn something new everyday!

 

 I'll definitely look into the Classified tier 980. I guess it does not classify as a reference card? I'm still looking into Watercooling parts and am searching for a nice backplate for it.

It does not classify as a reference card. However if you want to water cool it EK's gtx 780 classfied water block fits on the 980 ti classfied. I searched it up and people have gotten confirmation from EK about it.

Also the classified comes with a backplate :). Of course you might prefer a different one but just FYI

[brob]

With a custom loop and dual SLI GTX 980 Ti, 1000W psu is a better choice than 850W. The later is just a bit too tight, especially with a custom cooling loop and the cpu and gpu overclocked. The RMx 1000W is an excellent choice. Although there are other slightly less expensive offerings that are arguably as good.

Did you look at the Asus Z170 Pro motherboard. It has a black & white theme and is much better, IMO than the Z170 Krait.

If you are starting out with a custom loop, you might checkout availability of the EVGA Hydro Copper, http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4999-KR. It really is not that much more expensive than a stock GTX 980 Ti and water block.

What 2x8GB memory kit are you planning to get?

[Trucidicus]

15 hours ago, brob said:

What 2x8GB memory kit are you planning to get?

I had picked 4x4GB Kingston Fury. I was going to edit it to 2x8GB of the same Kingston Fury 2400/2666Mhz.

Final Edit: I have gone with Kingston HyperX Savage 2x8GB -2400Mhz - CL12 RAM.

 

[ic3panda]

i would suggest you to get the asus white motherboard, as this msi motherboard has quite and awkward design/build, hence results in poor cable management.

try this motherboard instead

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z170a

[Trucidicus]

1 minute ago, ic3panda said:

i would suggest you to get the asus white motherboard, as this msi motherboard has quite and awkward design/build, hence results in poor cable management.

Thanks for the advice, I have changed my decision to the Asus Z170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard as per user: brob's suggestion above. 

[ic3panda]

4 minutes ago, Trucidicus said:

Thanks for the advice, I have changed my decision to the Asus Z170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard as per user: brob's suggestion above. 

cool. good to know.

anyways. if you are going for a white theme, maybe you can try looking for this

or just get a gtx980ti HOF edition, and custom watercool it yourself. the card version is white. looks amazing

http://www.galax.net/GLOBAL/wc_ti_hof_series.html

[Trucidicus]

3 minutes ago, ic3panda said:

cool. good to know.

anyways. if you are going for a white theme, maybe you can try looking for this

http://www.galax.net/GLOBAL/wc_ti_hof_series.html

Wow, that looks sweet. I hope it also comes as a standalone block and not a full GPU. I'll keep an eye on this, thanks! 

 

 

Edited February 2, 2016 by Trucidicus
NVM my stupidity.