AMD vs Linux?

[deviant88]

My next gpu is going to be an AMD for sure but i wont touch linux with a 10 footpole, not even my audio works there let alone graphics.

[Nena Trinity]

proof?!

You are joking right? When you use a GTX 970 on CS:GO then the game is CPU mixed with the fact that Ubuntu stresses the system less than Windows!

 

My next gpu is going to be an AMD for sure but i wont touch linux with a 10 footpole, not even my audio works there let alone graphics.

Linux runs like 25% of the games better rest is equally good or worse on the Nvidia side on the AMD side even the games that run better run far far worse there is not excuse for them to fail this hard!

[zMeul]

You are joking right? When you use a GTX 970 on CS:GO then the game is CPU mixed with the fact that Ubuntu stresses the system less than Windows!

again, proof?

I played on linux the same game as I played on Win - performance wise, with a GTX970, was 1/2

[MEC-777]

Older GPU's? Nvidia. Newer GPU's? (Hawaii and newer) it's a toss up. Right now the Nvidia Linux drivers are more mature, so right now, I'd still go with Nvidia. 

 

On a GTX 760 I saw nearly equal gaming performance to windows.

[Nena Trinity]

again, proof?

I played on linux the same game as I played on Win - performance wise, with a GTX970, was 1/2

Lucky you I was not on a ipod at work while reading this reply!

Watch both tests or else!!! >:c

[zMeul]

Watch both tests or else!!! >:c

yeh .. that test is flawed, for couple of reasons

1. Win DX vs Linux OGL
2. tessellation appears to be not identical

want to test it properly, test the same OGL game in Win and Linux

 

also, min recommended sys req for Linux are higher: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Metro:_Last_Light_Redux

[Nena Trinity]

yeh .. that test is flawed, for couple of reasons

1. Win DX vs Linux OGL
2. tessellation appears to be not identical

want to test it properly, test the same OGL game in Win and Linux

 

also, min recommended sys req for Linux are higher: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Metro:_Last_Light_Redux

Pffft they never ported the tessellation over but its same settings!

[ohJey]

yeh .. that test is flawed, for couple of reasons

1. Win DX vs Linux OGL
2. tessellation appears to be not identical

want to test it properly, test the same OGL game in Win and Linux

 

also, min recommended sys req for Linux are higher: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Metro:_Last_Light_Redux

tessellation is on my default on the OpenGL version

[zMeul]

tessellation is on my default on the OpenGL version

was not about tessellation on/off

was about tessellation levels, in the video he does say the smoke doesn't look the same

[Praesi]

There is no Point in Linux as Gaming Plattform.

[ohJey]

There is no Point in Linux as Gaming Plattform.

 

"Linux is the future of gaming for gamers on the client as well, because, besides Microsoft moving to a more locked-in style of computing, "Open systems were advancing much faster. The old console guys are not competitive, and there's huge tension in proprietary systems." For example, Newell said, "It took us six months to get one update through the Apple store. Closed systems are at odds with the evolution of gaming."

 

[Praesi]

 

There is no Point in Linux as Gaming Plattform.

 

"Linux is the future of gaming for gamers on the client as well, because, besides Microsoft moving to a more locked-in style of computing, "Open systems were advancing much faster. The old console guys are not competitive, and there's huge tension in proprietary systems." For example, Newell said, "It took us six months to get one update through the Apple store. Closed systems are at odds with the evolution of gaming."

 

 

Who cares about Apple? Windows will stay Main Plattform for Gaming for the next 10 Years.

[ohJey]

Who cares about Apple? Windows will stay Main Plattform for Gaming for the next 10 Years.

Windows is becoming more and more closed.  Open platforms progress much faster than closed platforms.

[Praesi]

Windows is becoming more and more closed.  Open platforms progress much faster than closed platforms.

Windows is dominating the PC World. This will not change anytime soon.

[ohJey]

Windows is dominating the PC World. This will not change anytime soon.

Linux is dominating the server world.  This forum is hosted on Linux and is protected by cloudflare which is running on Linux.  Linux is emerging in the gaming world and is being supported more and more by Steam.  This will not change anytime soon.

[Praesi]

Linux is dominating the server world.  This forum is hosted on Linux and is protected by cloudflare which is running on Linux.  Linux is emerging in the gaming world and is being supported more and more by Steam.  This will not change anytime soon.

Gaming PC´s will stay Windows. Get over it.

[Nena Trinity]

Gaming PC´s will stay Windows. Get over it.

I hate Windows its always crashy! >:c

 

Its only usable for games and nothing else...

[Burusutazu]

Gaming PC´s will stay Windows. Get over it.

You can predict the future? Nobody really knows how much of an impact Valve will make on developers in the future of Linux.

[Nena Trinity]

You can predict the future? Nobody really knows how much of an impact Valve will make on developers in the future of Linux.

True also the amount of Linux games are now over 10x more!

[Praesi]

I hate Windows its always crashy! >:c

 

Its only usable for games and nothing else...

Ya, 1 Bluescreen since Win7 Release. Its horrible....

[Praesi]

You can predict the future? Nobody really knows how much of an impact Valve will make on developers in the future of Linux.

I stay in the real World till than.

[Nena Trinity]

Ya, 1 Bluescreen since Win7 Release. Its horrible....

You really should look up all the kinds of weird issues such as repair discs says its not supported by your operating system to windows update killing itself...

[SubTract]

This whole "windows is better." "No Linux is better" thing that is starting to happen is a quite amusing.

 

AMD needs to get it's shit together. Who knows, maybe when they get some money coming in and they stop bleeding money they will do more about it.

I can imagine it being hard for a company loosing money from all around to try and prioritise what they need to focus on when there is so much happening in all the spaces they cover right now.

 

Just to name a few we have:
- VR

- Freesync

- Vulkan

- DX12

- CPUs/APUs

- GPUs

- True Audio

- Custom Chips (Such as PS4)

- CUDA

- Drivers

 

Now someone is going to argue that a lot of this stuff is overlapping. For example Freesync/Vulkan/DX12/Cuda all being covered by drivers. Yes this is true, However these are all things that take significant R&D separate from the standard OS/Hardware driver platform.

 

We can all be but hurt that their linux support isn't great, However; For them, in order to keep their company. They have to make money, This means doing the best they can with what they've got. To have products that are attractive to the largest audience, then they will sell more products, Make more money and ultimately be able to support everything else that they are working on or wanting to work on.

 

The more we support them the more they'll support us.

This seems backward, Even to me. If they had the money I would be on the front line with my pitchfork like everyone else. 

But since there's not many companies left who legitimately want to do the right thing. I will support AMD with my wallet until they're comfortably competing again.

 

So to answer your question OP, Yes I would get an AMD card for gaming on Linux... Well I already did.

[Mauri]

SteamOS? If your windows drive has no more room? Or if the game is CPU bound over GPU then it run better in Linux!

even if this is true, windows still has a ton more of supported games.

 

and if you suggest wine as a solution, well then there goes your " it run better in Linux!" argument.

[Nena Trinity]

even if this is true, windows still has a ton more of supported games.

 

and if you suggest wine as a solution, well then there goes your " it run better in Linux!" argument.

WINE is good for 32bit games and yes more games are supported "for now" but it wont be like that for ever if game devs starts to make everything for Linux instead if that is more practica, right now OpenGL is not as easy as DX11 to make games for but Vulkan may fix that!