This programming problem...

[Enderman]

In a good programming class this wouldn't be the type of problem that you would be given often.

true, but the teacher made this problem to help the kids learn, not to make them spit out a number after doing math in their head

the code literally solves nothing

its not even a "problem" its just a solution, and you dont learn anything from solutions

[Jykos]

and jusy fyi, in math class they teach you how to solve equations, they dont teach you how to write down the answers to the equations

and in programming class they teach you how to code equations, not how to print the answers you already know

And just FYI. Maths isn't simply about solving equations. It's about problem solving using mathematics. Which envolvs things such as proofs.

[Enderman]

And just FYI. Maths isn't simply about solving equations. It's about problem solving using mathematics.

which requires you to LEARN how to solve using mathematics first right?

how will you solve anything if you dont know how?

that's exactly what's happening here

 

dumb students make program to give out right answer rather than learning how to code

next when they are asked to code a quadratic solving program they will fail because they avoided learning the basics

[Jykos]

true, but the teacher made this problem to help the kids learn, not to make them spit out a number after doing math in their head

the code literally solves nothing

its not even a "problem" its just a solution, and you dont learn anything from solutions

because that's not what programming is about. Programming is about achieving a goal using the lest effort.

[Enderman]

because that's not what programming is about. Programming is about achieving a goal using the lest effort.

no, not in school

in school you LEARN about programming so you can use those skills in the future to achieve your goal with less effort

if you dont know how to do loops or multiply values you will never get anywhere in the programming world

 

the teacher is trying to teach their students loops and basic math functions in programming

the teacher is not trying to find find values of which the square sum if its digits is equal to the number

 

do you understand the difference between LEARNING and writing an answer?

[Jykos]

which requires you to LEARN how to solve using mathematics first right?

how will you solve anything if you dont know how?

that's exactly what's happening here

dumb students make program to give out right answer rather than learning how to code

next when they are asked to code a quadratic solving program they will fail because they avoided learning the basics

WHICH IS WHY THIS IS A BAD PROBLEM. Forcing kids to take the long way is counterproductive. Showing kids how it's much easier to make a more complex algorithm for a different problem would be much better.

[Enderman]

WHICH IS WHY THIS IS A BAD PROBLEM. Forcing kids to take the long way is counterproductive. Showing kids how it's much easier to make a more complex algorithm for a different problem would be much better.

ok so why are you arguing with me?

why are you derailing the thread so much just to prove my point?

like srsly

go find someone else to troll

[Jykos]

ok so why are you arguing with me?

why are you derailing the thread so much just to prove my point?

like srsly

go find someone else to troll

i believe he gave the best answer for the problem he was given. That is the point I've been trying to make.

And we seem to be on the rails.

[Jykos]

go find someone else to troll

I genuinely disagree that his solution was wrong. again, PLEASE keep this impersonal.

[Enderman]

i believe he gave the best answer for the problem he was given. That is the point I've been trying to make.

And we seem to be on the rails.

ok, well I think the best answer is the answer intended by the teacher, which is a well coded algorithm to help the students learn loops and math functions.

 

instead, the student took a non-intended shortcut to avoid doing the required work and in turn learn nothing useful (since they already know how to use cout)

 

therefore the solution to that problem is useless to their learning, the intended purpouse

I would give it a 0

[Jykos]

ok, well I think the best answer is the answer intended by the teacher, which is a well coded algorithm to help the students learn loops and math functions.

instead, the student took a non-intended shortcut to avoid doing the required work and in turn learn nothing useful (since they already know how to use cout)

therefore the solution to that problem is useless to their learning, the intended purpouse

I would give it a 0

I believe that it would be unfair to mark a student down for completing the task given. The mark would be give based on his problem solving and what steps he took/decisions made when planning and writing the code.

That is all