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I currently have a 970, and it's not hard for me to switch to 390, i was even seriously thinking about that

i watched benchmarks and one is better here, the other there...

 

but my main concern is future proof

which will last me longer? I don't intend to change GPU for a while after this

I just want to max/high the games at 1080p

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while a 390 is faster, It isn't worth the upgrade if you already have a 970. just keep it and save up for something that's a substantial upgrade. ;)

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the difference is negligible.. if you already have the 970 going with the 390 is a waste unless you can just swap them out and it wont cost you anything 

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Unless it's a direct swap don't bother

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while a 390 is faster, It isn't worth the upgrade if you already have a 970. just keep it and save up for something that's a substantial upgrade. ;)

 

 

the difference is negligible.. if you already have the 970 going with the 390 is a waste unless you can just swap them out and it wont cost you anything 

 

 

Unless it's a direct swap don't bother

 

okay, but I just want to know how long will i be able to play games on 1080p high/max (approximatelly) a year, two?

+i5 4590

because when i reach "normal" I will upgrade

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okay, but I just want to know how long will i be able to play games on 1080p high/max (approximatelly) a year, two?

+i5 4590

because when i reach "normal" I will switch

Two is a stretch, a year maybe.

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Two is a stretch, a year maybe.

damn...

PC gaming is so expensive :|

you wouldn't beleive how many times i almost switched to PS4

400$ and you're good for 5 years (well if 720p 30fps is good....not really)

but 400$ for 5 years or 400$ each year is really a thing to think of

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damn...

PC gaming is so expensive :|

you wouldn't beleive how many times i almost switched to PS4

400$ and you're good for 5 years (well if 720p 30fps is good....not really)

but 400$ for 5 years or 400$ each year is really a thing to think of

Well, people will yell at me but it's the case with Nvidia mainly. People who bought a 7950/7970 in 2011/2012 can still max out almost any game or at least get high settings 50-60fps without an issue whereas 680 users are having a much harder time thanks to only having 2GB of VRAM and worse-aging hardware. Thanks to AMD's mediocre drivers, each driver update gives you a decent bit of performance so their cards end up aging better.

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Well, people will yell at me but it's the case with Nvidia mainly. People who bought a 7950/7970 in 2011/2012 can still max out almost any game or at least get high settings 50-60fps without an issue whereas 680 users are having a much harder time thanks to only having 2GB of VRAM and worse-aging hardware. Thanks to AMD's mediocre drivers, each driver update gives you a decent bit of performance so their cards end up aging better.

so, you think it will be same with these two?

i mean, it's 3,5GB vs freakin 8GB

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so, you think it will be same with these two?

i mean, it's 3,5GB vs freakin 8GB

Likely - I mean, 6-7 games currently use more than 4GB of VRAM at 1080p - won't be long before 4GB is minimum (currently 2GB is barely cutting it and 3GB is what you want)

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I currently have a 970, and it's not hard for me to switch to 390, i was even seriously thinking about that

i watched benchmarks and one is better here, the other there...

 

but my main concern is future proof

which will last me longer? I don't intend to change GPU for a while after this

I just want to max/high the games at 1080p

 

 

Sell 970, buy a 390X.

 

that is the only "upgrade" you should do. a 390 is like 5-7% faster then the average 970.

A 390X is roughly 14-17% faster for only 100 bucks more...

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well then, i can get 390 for 40€

according to this i might just do that

I'm not saying it's worth it now - like @Prysin said, 390X is a better upgrade since it will yield bigger gains than a 390.

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Sell 970, buy a 390X.

 

that is the only "upgrade" you should do. a 390 is like 5-7% faster then the average 970.

A 390X is roughly 14-17% faster for only 100 bucks more...

i can get 300€ for 970, so that's 40€ for 390 or 150€ for 390x,

150€ is quite a bit since i just upgraded my CPU, and I also have to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible

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i can get 300€ for 970, so that's 40€ for 390 or 150€ for 390x,

150€ is quite a bit since i just upgraded my CPU, and I also have to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible

I just saw CX.... - PSU first. a 390/970 with a CX is a deathwish. (figuratively speaking)

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i can get 300€ for 970, so that's 40€ for 390 or 150€ for 390x,

150€ is quite a bit since i just upgraded my CPU, and I also have to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible

get this: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss850am2

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i realized that 2 days ago, you were the reason if i remember correctly ;)

I'm working on that as fast as i can :)

Haha, could be. Leave the 970 and get a decent PSU

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get a SuperFlower 850/1000W 80+ GOLD/Platinum or Corsair RM 850/1000 first. Those are good PSU brands.

Super Flower is stellar, RM is overpriced for what it is.

Antec High Current Gamer 620M is a good option too.

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i was thinking of XFX TS Series 550W

Good PSU too - but I'd suggest 650W since it offers more room for expansion, be it drives, fans, LEDs or a more powerful GPU and OCing it.

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