IPS/1440P Question

[Greg99456]

Hey guys! I'm new to the forum and relatively new to PC's. Just been researching the last few weeks for a build that I'll be purchasing come September.

 

My question is in regards to displays and whether or not my GPU can handle a 27" IPS at 1440P. It's an AMD 7950.

 

Any recommendations in terms of monitor/GPU's (preferably within $50 of the same price point) is greatly appreciated!

 

Full build here - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1sITD

[OneGun]

A single 7950 will handle a 1440p monitor at 60hz with AA turned way down..You wont really need much AA at 1440p anyways..

[GoodBytes]

The 27inch monitor that you have in your list is only 1920 x 1080, not 2560x1440, hence the low price.

 

For such monitor, you are looking at MINIMUM 500$ for a brand name like Acer. If you don't care about built quality at all, monitor features, glossy, warranty, after sale service, etc. Then you can go look for ebay Korean brands, for about 300$ or so dollars. OneGun knows them quiet well. While these cheaper monitors are using rejected IPS panels from LG or Samsung, they pick the best of the best of what they got. Most people have no issues that is perceivable.. or it's back light related, which they don't mind, due to the price. It is however recommended to get a pixel perfect coverage with them, as shipping back the monitor is not only really expensive due to that it comes from Korea, but also due to size and weight. Oh and it will take a long time. Oh and their warranty coverage is fill with conditions on it, so it's best to pay the premium coverage, get it pixel perfect.

 

Personally, I would suggest to get a brand name. I strongly believe it is worth the premium price. If you can afford it.

 

Why so expensive?

 -> currently all 2560x1440 monitor panel are true 8-bit panels for true 16.7 million colors, and not 6-bit panels with a color emulation system to emulate the colors, like all ~sub-350$ IPS monitors, and all TN panels. In more details: 6-bit panels uses FRC (Frame Rate Control) as a technique to emulate the missing colors. It takes 2 colors it can produce and switch between them at really high speed to trick your brain in seeing the correct color. All TN panel have this, and entry level IPS panels. True 8-bit panel is very costly.

 

 -> High resolution. High resolution means increase cost

 

 -> Lower demand. The lower demand means less monitors are produced, and that means higher price.

 

 -> 2560x1440 monitor, as they are more targeted at people that do work at their computers, and professionals that don't really do color critical work but need some level of correctness, they include color processors and Look Up Table, which drive the cost up. Higher the resolution, the faster the color processor needs to be, which increases the cost of the monitor, also it needs to have low input lag, so even faster color processor is required, which they do put it, to keep the monitor still at acceptable to very good gaming levels.

[Greg99456]

The 27inch monitor that you have in your list is only 1920 x 1080, not 2560x1440, hence the low price.

 

For such monitor, you are looking at MINIMUM 500$ for a brand name like Acer. If you don't care about built quality at all, monitor features, glossy, warranty, after sale service, etc. Then you can go look for ebay Korean brands, for about 300$ or so dollars. OneGun knows them quiet well. While these cheaper monitors are using rejected IPS panels from LG or Samsung, they pick the best of the best of what they got. Most people have no issues that is perceivable.. or it's back light related, which they don't mind, due to the price. It is however recommended to get a pixel perfect coverage with them, as shipping back the monitor is not only really expensive due to that it comes from Korea, but also due to size and weight. Oh and it will take a long time. Oh and their warranty coverage is fill with conditions on it, so it's best to pay the premium coverage, get it pixel perfect.

 

Personally, I would suggest to get a brand name. I strongly believe it is worth the premium price. If you can afford it.

 

Why so expensive?

 -> currently all 2560x1440 monitor panel are true 8-bit panels for true 16.7 million colors, and not 6-bit panels with a color emulation system to emulate the colors, like all ~sub-350$ IPS monitors, and all TN panels. In more details: 6-bit panels uses FRC (Frame Rate Control) as a technique to emulate the missing colors. It takes 2 colors it can produce and switch between them at really high speed to trick your brain in seeing the correct color. All TN panel have this, and entry level IPS panels. True 8-bit panel is very costly.

 

 -> High resolution. High resolution means increase cost

 

 -> Lower demand. The lower demand means less monitors are produced, and that means higher price.

 

 -> 2560x1440 monitor, as they are more targeted at people that do work at their computers, and professionals that don't really do color critical work but need some level of correctness, they include color processors and Look Up Table, which drive the cost up. Higher the resolution, the faster the color processor needs to be, which increases the cost of the monitor, also it needs to have low input lag, so even faster color processor is required, which they do put it, to keep the monitor still at acceptable to very good gaming levels.

Ok gotcha... my overall budget is $1500. So I guess a better question to ask would be - what can I do to maximize my display quality within my budget and build.

[OneGun]

The 27inch monitor that you have in your list is only 1920 x 1080, not 2560x1440, hence the low price.

 

For such monitor, you are looking at MINIMUM 500$ for a brand name like Acer. If you don't care about built quality at all, monitor features, glossy, warranty, after sale service, etc. Then you can go look for ebay Korean brands, for about 300$ or so dollars. OneGun knows them quiet well. While these cheaper monitors are using rejected IPS panels from LG or Samsung, they pick the best of the best of what they got. Most people have no issues that is perceivable.. or it's back light related, which they don't mind, due to the price. It is however recommended to get a pixel perfect coverage with them, as shipping back the monitor is not only really expensive due to that it comes from Korea, but also due to size and weight. Oh and it will take a long time. Oh and their warranty coverage is fill with conditions on it, so it's best to pay the premium coverage, get it pixel perfect.

 

Personally, I would suggest to get a brand name. I strongly believe it is worth the premium price. If you can afford it.

 

Why so expensive?

 -> currently all 2560x1440 monitor panel are true 8-bit panels for true 16.7 million colors, and not 6-bit panels with a color emulation system to emulate the colors, like all ~sub-350$ IPS monitors, and all TN panels. In more details: 6-bit panels uses FRC (Frame Rate Control) as a technique to emulate the missing colors. It takes 2 colors it can produce and switch between them at really high speed to trick your brain in seeing the correct color. All TN panel have this, and entry level IPS panels. True 8-bit panel is very costly.

 

 -> High resolution. High resolution means increase cost

 

 -> Lower demand. The lower demand means less monitors are produced, and that means higher price.

 

 -> 2560x1440 monitor, as they are more targeted at people that do work at their computers, and professionals that don't really do color critical work but need some level of correctness, they include color processors and Look Up Table, which drive the cost up. Higher the resolution, the faster the color processor needs to be, which increases the cost of the monitor, also it needs to have low input lag, so even faster color processor is required, which they do put it, to keep the monitor still at acceptable to very good gaming levels.

About the warranty coverage on a Korean monitor there really is NONE.Some sellers will help out and pay for return shipping but most will ignore you once you email telling them there is a problem..In my experience you either get a perfect one or a really bad one..

 

@Greg99456 If you want something that cost more but has a warranty then go with a Dell 2713HM but ask for a Revision #2.A PB278Q as long as PWM backlighting doesn't effect you or a Viewsonic VP2770 which has the least input lag of them all but cost the most..If your budget is closer to $300-400 then go with a Qnix or Xstar..If you are in the US or Canada then you can get from a seller with a no questions asked 30 day return at no cost to you..Here is link to them..

 

http://www.ipsledmonitors.com/Default.asp

[GoodBytes]

I cannot agree more with OneGun.

 

If you want to forget 2560x1440 monitors, and go down to 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. The prices are at around 300-350$, depending on the model and price. Which one to get between the 2, before suggesting monitors? Well it's simple: 1920x1200 are monitors of an aspect ratio of 16:10, while 1920x1080, is 16:9. As basically as you can see from the numbers, the 1920x1200 is a bit taller than the 1920x1080, but the width the same. 16:10 aspect ratio monitors are the prefer choices for people that does mostly work with their PC, as it allows to compensate more or less, for the task bar, menu bars and told bars in programs, giving them a greater work space. If they watch 16:9 content like a Blu-ray 1080p movie.. no problem, you'll just have nice small black bars at the top and bottom of the monitor. No stretching as the width the same. 16:9 is cheaper so more popular, and for entertainment use, there is not much advantage of having 16:10.

 

So in some:

 1920x1200 -> ideal for primarily work (doesn't effect 1080p content), cost more.

 1920x1080 -> ideal for primarily entertainment, cost less.

 

So which monitor. Well you have a variety of interesting monitors from both ASUS and Dell, as popular choices.

1920x1200

• ASUS PA248Q
• Dell U2412M

1920x1080

• ASUS PB238Q.
• Dell U2312HM (be sure to order from Dell and ask the latest revision. If you are in U.S or Canada. this monitor is often on special at Dell site)

[Greg99456]

 

I cannot agree more with OneGun.

 

If you want to forget 2560x1440 monitors, and go down to 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. The prices are at around 300-350$, depending on the model and price. Which one to get between the 2, before suggesting monitors? Well it's simple: 1920x1200 are monitors of an aspect ratio of 16:10, while 1920x1080, is 16:9. As basically as you can see from the numbers, the 1920x1200 is a bit taller than the 1920x1080, but the width the same. 16:10 aspect ratio monitors are the prefer choices for people that does mostly work with their PC, as it allows to compensate more or less, for the task bar, menu bars and told bars in programs, giving them a greater work space. If they watch 16:9 content like a Blu-ray 1080p movie.. no problem, you'll just have nice small black bars at the top and bottom of the monitor. No stretching as the width the same. 16:9 is cheaper so more popular, and for entertainment use, there is not much advantage of having 16:10.

 

So in some:

 1920x1200 -> ideal for primarily work (doesn't effect 1080p content), cost more.

 1920x1080 -> ideal for primarily entertainment, cost less.

 

So which monitor. Well you have a variety of interesting monitors from both ASUS and Dell, as popular choices.

1920x1200

• ASUS PA248Q
• Dell U2412M

1920x1080

• ASUS PB238Q.
• Dell U2312HM (be sure to order from Dell and ask the latest revision. If you are in U.S or Canada. this monitor is often on special at Dell site)

 

Thanks for your advice guys! That answered my question and then some! I appreciate the help!