[Canada] first high tier build help

[mseal]

Hey guys, I'm gaming with a really old high tier (At the time) computer and I'm looking into getting a brand new high tier computer  for as cheap (ha) as possible.

I'm looking for something that will last 5+ years as my last one has with little to no upgrading, and with little/no overcloacking until a few years down the road to squeeze out a bit more juice.

 

Obviously this is in Canadian dollars and Will probably just deal with newegg canada unless there is a better deal somewhere else I didn't see,

 

Budget: I would prefer to be as low as possible but know that I will be spending quite a bit in order to avoid upgrading later, and I would prefer to get a highish tier build to limit any upgrading future proof it as much as possible.

 

Aim: The use of this build is basically new games at a modest (single monitor) 1920X1080 for the foreseeable future.

 

Got so far: I have purchased as of now 

 

MSI GeForce GTX 970 which is installed into my lackluster current build.

 

(http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832&cm_re=msi_gtx_970-_-14-127-832-_-Product)

 

and this ram as I found what I thought to be a great deal:

 

8gbx2 DDR3 1600

 

(http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148540&_ga=1.140866226.1272375481.1443306598)

 

 

Old build:

 

Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600 (overclocked at 3.0 Ghz)

EVEGA GTX 285

8gb ddr2 ram

(now installed a bottlenecked GTX 970)

 

 

This is what I was looking at so far on getting

 

New:

Intel i7-4790k   ($439.99 Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition LGA 1150 Intel Z97 ($154.99 newegg)

PSU: rosewell 650W Modular  ($104.99)

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182322&cm_re=650_watt_power_supply-_-17-182-322-_-Product

and tower will probably be a generic full size tower for around $150.

 

Peripherals : No needs, keeping everything including monitor

 

Does this look okay, I would love any tips/ recommendations, any way to save some money would also be awesome however I understand if I wont.

I'm also a little worried that my choice in processor might decrease in price as the new chipsets come in and ill end up wasting money when I could have waited. I'm not really convinced by DDR4 and am not really interested in spending the extra money.

 

Really appreciate any help, thanks alot!

 

edit: also forgot to mention I have SSD's and harddrives that will be used for this.

[CJ Chua]

Budget please

Edit : what are you going to need this system for? Gaming or gaming + editing?

[mseal]

Budget please

Edit : what are you going to need this system for? Gaming or gaming + editing?

 

As for budget considering I already have purchased the $450 video card and $100 ram, hopefully less then $1000 dollars; but I am open to suggestions if needing to go higher.

 

As for use I did mention in post that I will be more or less just gaming and internet browsing; no video editing of any kind here.

[CJ Chua]

As for budget considering I already have purchased the $450 video card and $100 ram, hopefully less then $1000 dollars; but I am open to suggestions if needing to go higher.

As for use I did mention in post that I will be more or less just gaming and internet browsing; no video editing of any kind here.

Pure gaming...

Go with a i5 4690K and a ND-D15 from Noctua or a Dark Rock Pro 3 from Be Quiet and get a... Z97 SLI Krait from MSI. For storage I'll suggest a 1TB Seagate / 1TB WD Blue and a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo

Edit : You can shave some money from lowering your CPU cooler to some cheaper like ND-D15 or a... Dark Rock 3 and fit everything into it

[mseal]

Pure gaming...

Go with a i5 4690K and a ND-D15 from Noctua or a Dark Rock Pro 3 from Be Quiet and get a... Z97 SLI Krait from MSI. For storage I'll suggest a 1TB Seagate / 1TB WD Blue and a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo

Edit : You can shave some money from lowering your CPU cooler to some cheaper like ND-D15 or a... Dark Rock 3 and fit everything into it

 

The I5 is about only $130 cheaper then the I7; do you think that is worth it? (also I do have HDD/SDD already)

 

Also is stock Heatsink+fan not worthwhile keeping? 

[CJ Chua]

The I5 is about only $130 cheaper then the I7; do you think that is worth it? (also I do have HDD/SDD already)

Also is stock Heatsink+fan not worthwhile keeping?

Gaming don't need extra thread. It's useless so it's okay. If you're overflow king then don't use the stock cooler. It won't let you oc much. Get a Hyper 212 Evo for much lower price and it also performs good. HDD/SSD is alright. It's the most easiest part to decide.

[stconquest]

You could jump to Skylake:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($334.75 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 Ver.2 44.2 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($51.63 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $800.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:45 EDT-0400

 

 

Haswell:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($303.63 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.05 @ Vuugo)  <<This thing is really good for the price but it is loud, I added a good fan below.
Motherboard: Asus Z97-E/USB3.1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.5 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($15.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $777.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:58 EDT-0400

[CJ Chua]

You could jump to Skylake:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.75 @ shopRBC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 Ver.2 44.2 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($51.63 @ Vuugo)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Memory Express)

Total: $800.24

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:45 EDT-0400

Haswell:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($303.63 @ Vuugo)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.05 @ Vuugo) <<This thing is really good for the price but it is loud, I added a good fan below.

Motherboard: Asus Z97-E/USB3.1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Memory Express)

Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($15.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Total: $777.52

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:58 EDT-0400

He/She doesn't even need to game using skylake right? IMO it's too much for me, Haswell will do just fine.

[stconquest]

He/She doesn't even need to game using skylake right? IMO it's too much for me, Haswell will do just fine.

 

Based on the OP's upgrade pattern, he/she wants it to last as long as possible.  Skylake is a little faster and brings back FSB(BCLK) overclocking as well.  The price difference is not that big.

[CJ Chua]

Based on the OP's upgrade pattern, he/she wants it to last as long as possible. Skylake is a little faster and brings back FSB(BCLK) overclocking as well. The price difference is not that big.

You're also right. (Not trying to start a fight dou). Let he/she choose have a great day everyone

[stconquest]

You're also right. (Not trying to start a fight dou). Let he/she choose have a great day everyone

 

That's the idea .

 

...just waiting for some questions from OP. 

[mseal]

You could jump to Skylake:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($334.75 @ shopRBC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 Ver.2 44.2 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($51.63 @ Vuugo)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)

Total: $800.24

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:45 EDT-0400

 

 

Haswell:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($303.63 @ Vuugo)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.05 @ Vuugo)  <<This thing is really good for the price but it is loud, I added a good fan below.

Motherboard: Asus Z97-E/USB3.1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($168.88 @ Canada Computers)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)

Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.5 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($15.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Total: $777.52

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 09:58 EDT-0400

 

Thanks for your help so far! So your saying Skylake is a minimal increase in price for slightly better futureproofing/speed; along with the benefit of being able to support DDR4 in the future if need be? Would it be worthwhile to look into the I7-6700K as well?

[mseal]

You're also right. (Not trying to start a fight dou). Let he/she choose have a great day everyone

Thank you also for your suggestions! 

[CJ Chua]

You're welcome sir [emoji6]

[stconquest]

Thanks for your help so far! So your saying Skylake is a minimal increase in price for slightly better futureproofing/speed; along with the benefit of being able to support DDR4 in the future if need be? Would it be worthwhile to look into the I7-6700K as well?

 

Well you bought DDR3 already so I picked a mobo that support DDR3, not DDR4.  If you changed the motherboard in the future, yes... the CPU supports DDR4.

 

Like the man above said, unless you have a reason to need the multithreaded support that i7s offer, the i5 is the gaming sweet spot.  If you have the money, sure grab the i7.. but if that will cause you to skimp on other core components, that $100 is better used elsewhere.

[mseal]

Well you bought DDR3 already so I picked a mobo that support DDR3, not DDR4.  If you changed the motherboard in the future, yes... the CPU supports DDR4.

 

Like the man above said, unless you have a reason to need the multithreaded support that i7s offer, the i5 is the gaming sweet spot.  If you have the money, sure grab the i7.. but if that will cause you to skimp on other core components, that $100 is better used elsewhere.

 

Oh of course forgot that very few mobos support both; One last question (hopefully!); In terms of the i5-6600k vs the i7-4790k is the i7 multi threading and higher cache worth while getting over the i5 knowing the price difference is quite low regardless of age/speed? Do you think the extra features in the I7 might come in handy 4+ years down the road? I would prefer to spend an extra $100-$250 if it makes a substantial difference in the future. (3-7 years)

[stconquest]

Oh of course forgot that very few mobos support both; One last question (hopefully!); In terms of the i5-6600k vs the i7-4790k is the i7 multi threading and higher cache worth while getting over the i5 knowing the price difference is quite low regardless of age/speed? Do you think the extra features in the I7 might come in handy 4+ years down the road? I would prefer to spend an extra $100-$250 if it makes a substantial difference in the future. (3-7 years)

 

You have to give me the application that would demanding better multithread support.  Are you going to stream games?  Render music or video?  Remember, hyperthreading aids the cores... it does not mean you get 8 cores.  6/8 core Intel CPUs cost more.

 

For gaming, the i5 is all you will ever need... at least for the foreseeable future.

[mseal]

You have to give me the application that would demanding better multithread support.  Are you going to stream games?  Render music or video?  Remember, hyperthreading aids the cores... it does not mean you get 8 cores.  6/8 core Intel CPUs cost more.

I 

For gaming, the i5 is all you will ever need... at least for the foreseeable future.

 

I'd just be gaming, if that is indeed the case then maybe I will be purchasing the I-5 you suggest. I might just be getting carried away and thinking the i7 is my only option because it is the highest tier.  I assumed that gaming on an I7 would just be significantly better; but if that is not the case then I'll just stick with an I5.Thanks for your help! 

 

I just had a night shift so Ill be sleeping for the next 8 hours and will check on this thread then! Thanks alot!

[Serpius]

Hey guys, I'm gaming with a really old high tier (At the time) computer and I'm looking into getting a brand new high tier computer  for as cheap (ha) as possible.

 

** Rest of post deleted for brevity **

 

Really appreciate any help, thanks alot!

 

edit: also forgot to mention I have SSD's and harddrives that will be used for this.

 

MSeal,

 

Here's my recommended computer components plus a new computer case.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($305.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($41.00 @ Amazon Canada) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($123.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.5 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($15.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Total: $716.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 10:59 EDT-0400