Which CPU?

[Nena Trinity]

 

Hello everyone !!

 

I've a tight budget for a cpu and gpu or apu with motherboard and and memory, i found 2 options : 

 

Intel : 

 

-Cpu : Pentium G3258

-Gpu : R7 370

-Motherboard : ASUS B85M-G 

-Memory : Crucial Ballistix Sport XT (2x, 4Go, DDR3-1600, DIMM 240)

 

 

AMD : 

 

-Cpu : A10-7850K APU 

-Gpu : APU 

-Motherboard : ASUS A88X-PLUS 

-Memory :   G.Skill Sniper (2x, 4Go, DDR3-1866, DIMM 240)

 

My budget is arround 400 but the less the better

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance !!!!!!

 

Why not 860K + 370?

[tomas710]

So, i'm putting up this alternative. I'm choosing an i3 since it should be enough for most games and it's a tight bidget, if anyone knows if there's a better i3 or anything please post it, this is just what i could come up with

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BZ3YD3

[tomas710]

 

 

So, i'm putting up this alternative. I'm choosing an i3 since it should be enough for most games and it's a tight bidget, if anyone knows if there's a better i3 or anything please post it, this is just what i could come up with

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BZ3YD3

[Gwersebe]

go intel with it and get a z97 board so it is compatible and you can overclock it. g3258 is a great overclocker.

[Litargirio]

On 9/26/2015 at 9:52 PM, Morgan MLGman said:

I actually did a test of what you're saying, not with AMD's best but with my 8350, it's not bad considering this CPU's price and workstation capabilities such as multithreaded tasks, editing, rendering etc. It obviously is not a gaming CPU, however it does just fine doing that as proven.

Here it is if you're curious.

On 9/26/2015 at 9:58 PM, SPAS-ID said:

you said this "upgadability and performance and everything." you didnt compare anything to the 7850K AMD CPU meaning that you blindly saids it was better w/o giving any information

@The_Spartan74

@Cory_plays_games

 

Alright, here you go...

 

 

 

On 7/16/2015 at 12:37 PM, Omie said:

I built this computer about 2 years ago and to this day, I still regret my decision.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qZjygs

Long story short, I had an $800-900 budget and people recommended me to go with an AMD based system with an FX-6300 CPU.

I stated that I wanted to play mmorpg's and every game I try now either has low fps, huge fps drops, and just stutters.

I have yet to find a game that I can run enjoyably. Even league of legends and an old 2D game called Maplestory stutters so much that it has become unplayable and unbearable. People I watch who are on Intel have no problems.

I tried many things such as old driver versions, completely reinstalling OS and reformatting the hard drive, reinstalling mobo drivers, checking temps, etc. I guess it is just crap architecture that AMD uses.

I don't understand why AMD still makes CPU's, they are complete garbage. It only has decent performance where games utilize many cores which is rare.

Ended up dropping $1k+ on this build with the OS, monitor and peripherals, I was a noob back then. Never buying any AMD products again, terrible experience.

Anyways, if you plan on building a gaming Pc just go with at least an Intel CPU over AMD and save yourself the trouble.

 

Here are some videos in-case you do plan on buying an AMD CPU:

 

Maplestory stutter:

 

Diablo 3 Unstable CPU:

 

Diablo 3 fps drops (from 60 fps down to 38 when attacking a mob):

 

EDIT: Also tested Battlefield 3, everything on max I get around 30-40-50 fps. I can maintain solid 60 if I am looking at a wall but as soon as I look into the distance or get into a gunfight, the fps plummets.

 

On 5/7/2014 at 4:26 PM, crystal6tak said:

As a gamer I speak in all honesty that I fully regret buying my 8350. I really should've went with 4670k. The ipc performance of the 8350 is just terrible of which most games depends on. Sure the potential performance of the 8350 is neck to neck or even higher than the 4670k but practically 8350 either trails behind or gets stomped on by the 4670k.

 

Basically it would be like (numbers I pulled out of my arse, not accurate, just to represent what I mean) with the 8350 20% of the game would run great and the other 80% run terrible or with the 4670k 100% of the game run great.

 

I own dual 290X in cfx and these are some of the games I CAN'T max out because of my 8350 bottlenecks heavily.

Mechwarrior Online

Hawken

Arma 3

Goat simulator

Minecraft

 

On 9/16/2014 at 10:05 PM, Suika said:

I deeply regret my decision in purchasing an FX-8350.

 

It's rare for it to reach 100% usage before my 780. Skyrim lags like shit when I have an excessive amount of AI and town mods enabled, and Mann vs. Machine has the most unusual lag spikes considering it's greatly CPU dependent. In a GPU bound title, of course there's little difference between an i5, i7, and 8350, but if you come across a single CPU bound game, you'll grow upset with it.

 

On 7/7/2015 at 9:22 PM, MitchellStubbz said:

Get a i5 4690. Dont make the same mistake i did, I regret buying my FX 8320.

 

On 4/25/2015 at 7:29 PM, greeatzy said:

I have the fx 8350 on asrock 990fx fatality and I'm cooling it with noctua nh-d14...

At first when I bought my pc I was very happy but I'm at that point that I regret buying fx 8350... 

 

On 5/4/2014 at 7:15 AM, solarflare said:

This is i swear like the 20th 8350 complain thread I've read this week.. do people not do any research before buying these cpu's? or do they just see 4.0Ghz /8 cores and squee like girls while buying it as quickly as possible?

 

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On 1/6/2015 at 5:55 PM, H4X3R said:

PS Please don't make the same mistake as me and buy AMD...for the love of...well the games you play i suppose.

 

On 11/5/2014 at 12:44 PM, i_build_nanosuits said:

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That's what i tought i paid close to 500$ for the GTX 780 and in many games i was getting under 60FPS and when i started monitoring the GPU load in games it quickly became clear who was guilty of that.

BTW my FX-8320 was running at 4.6ghz while gaming...overclocking it yield next to no benefit, the CPU cores are too slow.

 

 

On 12/16/2014 at 3:43 AM, Bubblewhale said:

Well considering that fact that i regret buying my 8320....

 

On 2/16/2015 at 3:42 PM, fplayer said:

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I dont know if you believe but I am not an AMD fanboy, neither an Intel fanboy. I had HD5850 GPU and I couldnt play BF4 because of some bug that only occurs on AMD setups. I upgraded to GTX760 for that. Right now, I cant even play Dungeon Defenders II because game runs horribly on AMD CPUs. Also Dying Light runs very badly on AMD CPUs, even developers said that they are aware of AMD chip issue. AMD is problem.

 

If you are playing same games, look at some benchmarks and if benchmarks are good buy the AMD chip BUT, if you want to play the new games when they released, go for 4690k

 

Thats my 2 cents, I used AMD and I regret it. 

 

On 2/16/2015 at 8:58 PM, Anarchyz11 said:

I went from an AMD processor to a locked i5-4590 and the difference is night and day.  I love AMD's video cards, but it seems like 1/4th of their CPU sales are just people comparing their core count to their penis size.

 

On 8/23/2013 at 4:53 AM, dreams said:

This is with vsync on.. still really low fps.. very sluggish and notice my gpu usage for both cards.. temps are find, and the latency is in the 20's? ugh.. starting to regret this 800$+ purchase.

Spoiler

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w678/acoc23/ScreenshotWin32-0004_zpsc5bd41e6.png

 

On 11/14/2014 at 3:24 PM, UnbendingNose said:

Going with an fx8320 over an i5 was one of the biggest regrets I have. I just upgraded to the i5 4670k because the fx8320 was bottlenecking my R9 290 in many games.

 

 

And now, Morgan, you go ahead and try to find a single person who says that they regret buying a high end Intel CPU. I dare you.

[jc980]

Why not an i3-4160/4170 or a i5-4460/4590?

[alexhelvetica]

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It's rare for it to reach 100% usage before my 780. 

 

Isn't that a good thing?

 

Anyway, I don't regret buying an AMD.

I regret not doing enough research, but I would have still got a FX 6300 with my current knowledge if I bought my PC now!

[Morgan MLGman]

 

 

@The_Spartan74

@Cory_plays_games

 

Alright, here you go...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now, Morgan, you go ahead and try to find a single person who says that they regret buying a high end Intel CPU. I dare you.

 

Oh come on dude you're better than that. If someone buys an AMD FX CPU for gaming solely then there's no wonders they regret that cause they clearly made a mistake.

FX series are great value for money, talking about 4300, 6300 and 8320/8350. If you're getting an 8320/50 then it's great if you need a powerful, multithreaded unit that's got for streaming, video editing, rendering etc.

Whic does not mean that the 8350 is bad in games, have you watched that video? It does particularly well in the latest AAA titles cause those utilize its all 8 threads. You know when I benchmarked Shadow of Mordor with my roommate who has a 4690k+970 combo while I have an 8350+970 combo the FPS difference was around 5-6 while I have a 11% higher resolution than he does which does slightly decrease performance. (I use 1920x1200)

I'm not saying AMD CPUs are better, they do offer better value for money in some cases though. Of course higher-end is all Intel's right now.

[crystal6tak]

 

Hello everyone !!

 

I've a tight budget for a cpu and gpu or apu with motherboard and and memory, i found 2 options : 

 

Intel : 

 

-Cpu : Pentium G3258

-Gpu : R7 370

-Motherboard : ASUS B85M-G 

-Memory : Crucial Ballistix Sport XT (2x, 4Go, DDR3-1600, DIMM 240)

 

 

AMD : 

 

-Cpu : A10-7850K APU 

-Gpu : APU 

-Motherboard : ASUS A88X-PLUS 

-Memory :   G.Skill Sniper (2x, 4Go, DDR3-1866, DIMM 240)

 

My budget is arround 400 but the less the better

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance !!!!!!

 

Here's some alternative you can consider:

 

Alt A (The one I recommend):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($165.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: Team Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 285 2GB STRIX Video Card  ($171.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $415.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-27 09:56 EDT-0400

 

If you must fit within the $400 budget, lower the RAM from 8 to 4gb. That'll save you $18 bringing total cost to $397.86. Then just grab another stick of RAM later on in the future.

 

Alt B (Read bottom note):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Celeron G1820 2.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: Team Elite 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($16.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card  ($309.99 @ B&H) 

Total: $406.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-27 10:11 EDT-0400

 

ONLY TAKE THIS BUILD IF YOU ARE SURE TO UPGRADE CPU SOON. This is an extremely imbalanced build. That CPU is nowhere enough to power the GTX 970 I crammed into the budget. Heck you should also grab another 4gb stick of RAM as soon as you can after upgrading the CPU to at least a quad core (ex: i5-4460). The point of this build is to get a solid GPU which will last a long time.

[Dabombinable]

What about this:

FX-6300 & R9 290? I'd take it any day over both of those setups

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($66.88 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($37.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $431.85

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-26 16:49 EDT-0400

Old and dead platform. Not just dead like s1150.

[Dabombinable]

 

 

@The_Spartan74

@Cory_plays_games

 

Alright, here you go...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now, Morgan, you go ahead and try to find a single person who says that they regret buying a high end Intel CPU. I dare you.

 

Don't forget my friend who regretted going from a Phenom II X4 to a "high end" AMD FX 8350. Worse overall system performance-which was proven to be the CPU as the Phenom II was running on an AM3+ motherboard.

[Morgan MLGman]

Old and dead platform. Not just dead like s1150.

Yep, that's a low budget though. Not much of a choice, he might want to get an i3 instead, he still should prioritize the GPU over the CPU and save money on it

[Dabombinable]

Yep, that's a low budget though. Not much of a choice, he might want to get an i3 instead, he still should prioritize the GPU over the CPU and save money on it

And not go with AM3+ since the only good CPU (aka the Phenom II X6) is expensive.

[Clyne]

Don't forget my friend who regretted going from a Phenom II X4 to a "high end" AMD FX 8350. Worse overall system performance-which was proven to be the CPU as the Phenom II was running on an AM3+ motherboard.

Fuck this Vishera 8320, i'm moving on to Zen if it's good or lakes in the sky anyway around next year or so.

I'll just reuse my 8320 rig as a benchmark rig to compare clock to clock with architecture, HTPC, basic pc/backup pc, or just selling it to one of my idiot console friends...  

[Guest trucker2]

I got two APU's 7850 and the 7870k Get the 7870 cause you get a much better cpu cooler. Check out the Microcenter website they have great cpu/mb combos that don't show up on pc partpicker cause there in store only.

  On both my systems I went against EVERYONES advice and I am so glad I did. Played Crysis3 at 720 and it was smooth as glass, BF4 26 to 30 fps on medium 1080, 60 fps at 720. One system has a 40+ dollar case that came with the PSU and the other I use an old case and old PSU.

BTW Cyrsis 3 kinda sucks and it sure ain't worth intels prices. CSGO is my fav and this is awesome on CSGO.

 

Upgradability is awesome. Check out anandtechs review of the 7870, with a GTX 980 it gets within 5 fps of the i5 in some games but does badly with GTA V.

What your fav game? GTA V then the 3258 would be better. Same with CSGO. Newer AAA titles wont run on it at all however.

I have both the 88 and 68 chipset boards, one is gigabyte and the other is MSI. 68 is the better value but that combo is no longer avail at microcenter. 68 has same PERFORMANCE but less sata and usb ports. If NOT buying a combo I would get the cheapest 68 board, if going MSI make sure it is the V2 version.

 

4.5 ghz on the catalyst autotune before the 7850 froze, that's with a 15 buck T2 cooler. I run it at stock however since I did not get the V2 board.

 

A10 get at least 2133 ram or 2400 if you MB supports it. My msi a68h board only supports 2133 but the gigabyte supports 2400. It makes a difference. G3258 get whatever 1600 is on sale and save some bucks IMHO.

 

They are both awesome budget systems, what you can buy for a 200 dollar or 300 dollar build is better then I could hope for. MB I would also want PCIE 3 and 6 GB/S SATA 3, I frankly don't care what USB speed is but others do for legit reasons.

 

The A10 allows you to reuse any old ATX PSU over 200 watts. I am the only one here that likes old OEM PSU's but I have never seen a Corsair or EVGA PSU from the 80's that still works.

 

Hope this helps, whatever you choose both are great and both have strengths and weakness. The reviews on the microcenter for both AMD and Intel are very good and more trustworthy then the stuff you find here IMHO.

 

There is a guy here that went the 6300 with a GTX 660 or something. I got his stuff at Microcenter and he likes it ALLOT and frankly it would smoke my A10 and may have cost a little more but not that much more. @hardwearsheldon or something. If your curious about the 6300 I would ask him about it.

Best of Luck

[Guest trucker2]

One option I forgot to mention and I only saw one guy do this. He got an I5 4690k and used it as APU till he saved up for a graphics card. I thought that was a cool idea and for him it worked out great.

[Dabombinable]

Fuck this Vishera 8320, i'm moving on to Zen if it's good or lakes in the sky anyway around next year or so.

I'll just reuse my 8320 rig as a benchmark rig to compare clock to clock with architecture, HTPC, basic pc/backup pc, or just selling it to one of my idiot console friends...  

Compare then sell. If you can sell it that is.

[Clyne]

Compare then sell. If you can sell it that is.

Ehh could sell anything to them anyway, i once "sold" them a game controller that didn't even work for their phone.........

Their all Xbox users who are bias because of their parents working for Microsoft......

They don't even know what the heck is IBM......

[Dabombinable]

Ehh could sell anything to them anyway, i once "sold" them a game controller that didn't even work for their phone.........

Their all Xbox users who are bias because of their parents working for Microsoft......

They don't even know what the heck is IBM......

Huh. In that case you can sell it then.