Skylake/broadwell/Haswell

[Hunlight]

So I kinda maked few build for next month to buy ( I mean 1 of them )
I choosed Skylake.You say why ?
first of all new mobo ,that support ddr4 rams which willbe kinda good in a year or two (I dont think will upgrade this pc in next 2 years or more)
So ddr4 rams is kinda good choose in my opinions.
also i5 6600k is kinda good processor ,and think when I will need it I could OC it and stick with it littlebit longer
GPU nothing special just r9 380 4gb
mobo not sure smth like x170 for like 120 eur~ (that one with Kerrigan on the box )
why it ? its a good by some of benchmarks I saw and kinda cheapest I find with good reviews.

So what do you think is it worth to go for haswell like i5 4690 or i5 4690k (whic in full build is the same price as Skylake or mby 10 eurs less)
Or stick with new gen. ddr4 rams ,new mobo.
My build is like 893-904 eurs (jumping from day to day in that range)

[Guest]

I would go back and get a h81 motherboard, a i5 4460/4590 and a r9 390.

[Hunlight]

I would go back and get a h81 motherboard, a i5 4460/4590 and a r9 390.

I have build with 4690 (price same as 4590 in my shops) and its like 895 eurs with r9 380 so +100 eurs and over budget .

[IBIMPUC]

Do you know anyone who owns Skylake hardware?

 

The reason I ask is that I would rather test drive the hardware before buying as you may find the supposed increase in speed slightly disappointing.

[Hunlight]

Do you know anyone who owns Skylake hardware?

 

The reason I ask is that I would rather test drive the hardware before buying as you may find the supposed increase in speed slightly disappointing.

I have viewed few benchmarks its slightly better ,but still I think to buy it for the future

[IBIMPUC]

I have viewed few benchmarks its slightly better ,but still I think to buy it for the future

I take all benchmarks at face value until I've actually tried the hardware with the software I will be using all the time.  will you be using the machine for gaming?

 

I suggest reading this and other articles before deciding. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2765861/worth-upgrade-skylake.html

[Hunlight]

I take all benchmarks at face value until I've actually tried the hardware with the software I will be using all the time.  will you be using the machine for gaming?

sure ,gaming /video editing , and nope I dont have friends with good rig ,best of is smth like 860k +750

[IBIMPUC]

sure ,gaming /video editing , and nope I dont have friends with good rig ,best of is smth like 860k +750

Put this "skylake, is it worth it" into google and read the many articles. The 'No' camp seem to be winning hands down.

If you already own a decent PC I suggest adding more ram if not already maxed out and spending the rest on a better GPU.

[Hunlight]

Put this "skylake, is it worth it" into google and read the many articles. The 'No' camp seem to be winning hands down.

If you already own a decent PC I suggest adding more ram if not already maxed out and spending the rest on a better GPU.

nope my pc is like 8 years old with only slightly newer gpu (gt 630),so I want a new PC

I know that its not worth it so much but why I should get like i5 4690 isntead of new fresh overclockable i5 6600k (price almost the same)

why ddr 3? when ddr4 in like year or two willbe like main rams like now ddr3 vs ddr2 (I have ddr2 )

[IBIMPUC]

nope my pc is like 8 years old with only slightly newer gpu (gt 630),so I want a new PC

I know that its not worth it so much but why I should get like i5 4690 isntead of new fresh overclockable i5 6600k (price almost the same)

why ddr 3? when ddr4 in like year or two willbe like main rams like now ddr3 vs ddr2 (I have ddr2 )

Aren't LGA 2011 / 1150 good enough? If you were serious you'd buy a Xeon CPU

 

I still suggest you do some serious reading before deciding on Skylake.

[juretrn]

nope my pc is like 8 years old with only slightly newer gpu (gt 630),so I want a new PC

I know that its not worth it so much but why I should get like i5 4690 isntead of new fresh overclockable i5 6600k (price almost the same)

why ddr 3? when ddr4 in like year or two willbe like main rams like now ddr3 vs ddr2 (I have ddr2 )

Right now you'll spend a fortune on DDR4 for no real benefit. Buy DDR3 for now, and sell it when DDR4 becomes mainstream. 

Although it's your own money, so if that's what you want...

As for Skylake itself, I'd buy it in a heartbeat over Haswell, just because.

[Hunlight]

Aren't LGA 2011 / 1150 good enough? If you were serious you'd buy a Xeon CPU

 

I still suggest you do some serious reading before deciding on Skylake.

I have desiding it for past two months

first was liek g3258+950 build (like 600 eurs)

then just for fan i7 4790k+980 build but was like much over budget

then goes i5 like 4690+r9 380 and its like 895 eurs

then I foudn out new xeon is good like e3-1231 or e3-1241 and build was like 823-880 eurs

and then I start looking at Skylake:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690K/3503vs2432

here what you suggest me to look at google

[NumLock21]

Skylake is worth it especially when you're coming from a very old system, like socket 775 or Sandy bridge. But for Sandy bridge users, some don't see the need for upgrade because their 2500k can be oc and still have some life in it. Getting skylake it's for the features that it brings like usb 3, nvme, sata express and more pcie lanes for. In skylake the pcie lanes from the chipset are 3.0, where as all intel platforms before that only runs on 2.0

Your very first build in 8 years then get skylake. those who say not worth is is because they have haswell so upgrading to skylake to them will not make any sense. But for you, its definitely worth it.

[Footy]

My pic died, so today I just built my sky lake rig.

I will be testing it over the weekend, I could test some specific things out if you think it will help.

I got the asus VIII hero mobo with 16gb ram and a 6700k,

I know not ideal but It's all I could afford pre-wedding.

[Hunlight]

My pic died, so today I just built my sky lake rig.

I will be testing it over the weekend, I could test some specific things out if you think it will help.

I got the asus VIII hero mobo with 16gb ram and a 6700k,

I know not ideal but It's all I could afford pre-wedding.

not ideal ? even its like much away from my budget ,and its like awesome

Yeah hope u coudl make some tests and send me results in pm

 

 

Skylake is worth it especially when you're coming from a very old system, like socket 775 or Sandy bridge. But for Sandy bridge users, some don't see the need for upgrade because their 2500k can be oc and still have some life in it. Getting skylake it's for the features that it brings like usb 3, nvme, sata express and more pcie lanes for. In skylake the pcie lanes from the chipset are 3.0, where as all intel platforms before that only runs on 2.0

Your very first build in 8 years then get skylake. those who say not worth is is because they have haswell so upgrading to skylake to them will not make any sense. But for you, its definitely worth it.

also thanks for answer,think will go for Skylake then think from ddr2 to ddr4 is like amazing jump

[NumLock21]

not ideal ? even its like much away from my budget ,and its like awesome

Yeah hope u coudl make some tests and send me results in pm

 

 

also thanks for answer,think will go for Skylake then think from ddr2 to ddr4 is like amazing jump

Yep it is, was also running on DDR2 and DDR4 is a huge jump..

[Hunlight]

Yep it is, was also running on DDR2 and DDR4 is a huge jump..

just it is bad that I cant afford i7 6700k in a 900 eur build

[Footy]

not ideal ? even its like much away from my budget ,and its like awesome

Yeah hope u coudl make some tests and send me results in pm

 

 

also thanks for answer,think will go for Skylake then think from ddr2 to ddr4 is like amazing jump

What tests are useful to you?

[Hunlight]

What tests are useful to you?

oh mby smth in game if possible ,and mby rendering time if possible

[NumLock21]

just it is bad that I cant afford i7 6700k in a 900 eur build

budget and your parts list?

[Hunlight]

budget and your parts list?

https://gyazo.com/066df3936128bf7af1b6f79062ab6400 budget as I said is 900 eur

also I saw that in shops like newegg or amazon r9 390 is like 60+ eur cheaper than in my country ... omg

[NumLock21]

https://gyazo.com/066df3936128bf7af1b6f79062ab6400 budget as I said is 900 eur

also I saw that in shops like newegg or amazon r9 390 is like 60+ eur cheaper than in my country ... omg

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€331.87 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI B150A Gaming Pro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€76.08 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€55.93 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€49.90 @ Caseking)

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290 4GB IceQ X² Video Card (€297.79 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case (€33.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €900.29

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-27 17:23 CEST+0200

[Hunlight]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€331.87 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI B150A Gaming Pro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€76.08 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€55.93 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€49.90 @ Caseking)

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290 4GB IceQ X² Video Card (€297.79 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case (€33.72 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €900.29

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-27 17:23 CEST+0200

thansk for try ,but I better stick with i5 6600k +r9 380 than go for r9 290 and not clockable i7 ,anyway its 900 eur its like +10% in europe so near 1k eur Its always liek this

[NumLock21]

thansk for try ,but I better stick with i5 6600k +r9 380 than go for r9 290 and not clockable i7 ,anyway its 900 eur its like +10% in europe so near 1k eur Its always liek this

with gpu a higher number does not mean its better, the innards are important too. 290 is faster than 380. 380 is basically a 280 or 280x (can't remember which) and 390 is basically a 290 with 8gb of vram. Getting a 6600k also need a cooler. The cooler is not included. Lock cpus comes with coolers.

[Hunlight]

with gpu a higher number does not mean its better, the innards are important too. 290 is faster than 380. 380 is basically a 280 or 280x (can't remember which) and 390 is basically a 290 with 8gb of vram. Getting a 6600k also need a cooler. The cooler is not included. Lock cpus comes with coolers.

I own a cooler ,and will think about 290 but first needcheck it price