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Hi :) I'm soon moving to Germany and am planning to build a PC while I'm there. I'm looking to spend around 500/550Euro maximum. I don't need a monitor, peripherals or OS. I would prefer the CPU to be Intel as I already have an AMD computer at home. As for the GPU, I really don't mind. I'm gonna play games like, BF4, GTA V and other games I buy randomly. Of course the build needs to be deliverable to Germany and in Euros. Thanks in advance for your help :)

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Give me a min - but AMD is a better bet for GTA V since if you want intel for that then i3 is minimum

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Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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i3 build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€118.05 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€45.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€49.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€53.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card  (€195.46 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€37.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €566.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Ya an i3 is what I want minimum, if it can fit in the budget.

Look above ^_^

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (€116.41 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€45.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€42.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (€195.46 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€30.43 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €550.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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€16 euros cheaper. Get rekt

Smaller case - less upgrades :P

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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They're both shit, when upgrading they'll get a new case aswell. :P

True enough ^_^

Not sure if they even come with fans.

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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i3 build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (€118.05 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€45.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€49.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (€195.46 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (€37.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €566.46

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Would an i5 and a 750ti be better?

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Would an i5 and a 750ti be better?

not really - not out of the box

The 380 is 10% faster than a 960.

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Yea, some 80mm one xD

That reminds me of the old days of cases - those were pretty fun to tinker with - modding was awesome back then :/

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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So this is where the compromise comes in... An i5 and a 380 sounds like a sweet spot....

It does just a bit overbudget :/

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€180.41 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€45.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€42.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (€195.46 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€30.43 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €614.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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It does just a bit overbudget :/

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€180.41 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€45.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€42.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (€195.46 @ Mindfactory)

Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€30.43 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€65.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €614.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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This is optimal for a budget build - I concur ^_^

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Now no one likes the put a dremel case and just blind you with red leds.

I just loved 2009 - 2010 - best time to be a tech enthusiast really. ^_^

You got the 5870, the 5970, the GTX 480 and GTX 490, should you prefer an all-in-one oven PC, the Nahalem i7s, Phenom IIs - best time evar! :D

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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This is optimal for a budget build - I concur ^_^

Also, someone is selling a 280x for €160 https://www.reddit.com/r/HardwareSwapUK/comments/3kli79/weekly_trade_thread/

 

 

I just loved 2009 - 2010 - best time to be a tech enthusiast really. ^_^

You got the 5870, the 5970, the GTX 480 and GTX 490, should you prefer an all-in-one oven PC, the Nahalem i7s, Phenom IIs - best time evar! :D

Back then I was a pentium 4 2.0ghz with 1.2gb of ram and integrated intel 82845/g graphics in an ol' Dell Dimension 2350

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Also, someone is selling a 280x for €160 https://www.reddit.com/r/HardwareSwapUK/comments/3kli79/weekly_trade_thread/

 

 

Back then I was a pentium 4 2.0ghz with 1.2gb of ram and integrated intel 82845/g graphics in an ol' Dell Dimension 2350

I had an Athlon 64 X2 mobile ^_^ + ATI HD 3000 iGPU and 4GB of DDR2(?)

2011 I got my brand new Athlon II X2 250 and ATI 5670.

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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I was on DDR ;-;

Prior to that laptop I had issues running skype sooooo :D

Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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