CPU Upgrade

[sgtsmokey]

I thought Skylake was supposed to be new and amazing, but according to Passmark it is worst than the 4790k. 

 

My original intention was to get a 5930k, I know games don't use that many cores. However I am games development student and spend a lot of time in game engines and 3D suites. I also need the extra cores so that I can stream and record without affecting gaming performance. I want to record games in 1080p and 4k without having a separate "Stream" Machine.

As you can see in my signature I have a 8320 FX and the problem I have here is that it bottlenecks the pair of R9 290s I have. So there is no room for recording or streaming on games like GTA V (Ultra), The Witcher 3 (Ultra). I have a moto that is if I can't stream it at 1080p, its not worth streaming at all.

 

So my plan is, on the 28th of September (Student finance ) I am going to order a CPU, MOBO, RAM and Case for around £1200 ($1800). But if I can save money and get something like a 4790k or 6700k and still have the functionality I need, then let me know.

So what I want to know is, now knowing my needs. Would you get a 4790k, 6700k or stick with the plan as it may be the only CPU that suits my needs the 5930k.

If anyone is interested, my 8320 FX, Asus M5A97 Mobo, Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600mhz and H55 cooler! Will be on sale shortly after I upgrade. Not sure what i would sell it for, probably around £50 - £100 (I don't see value in things i don't need any more)

If i get the bursary i may be entitled to, I will be getting Sli 980 Ti to replace my R9 290s. Then they will be on sale.

I have original boxes for everything I plan to sell, with packaging, manuals and drivers.

[OAcesync]

Don't use Passmark to compare CPUs

[sgtsmokey]

I use it to get a rough idea, but I see fairly the same results on firestrike and 3dmark. So my research still stands the same, why is this new Skylake about the same performance as a 4790k

[Elfuego]

Dont go i7 mainstream, get a 5820K and enjoy . I develop on UE4 with a 5930K and 290s - The only downside to the 290s is lack of CUDA support in certain apps. Also 5820K is more than adequate for 2 way SLI and leaves you 1 PCI-E slot for an SSD as well as an M.2 Slot for an SSD.

 

 

I use it to get a rough idea, but I see fairly the same results on firestrike and 3dmark. So my research still stands the same, why is this new Skylake about the same performance as a 4790k

 

Incremental improvements (and a lower "base" turbo clock than a 4790K)

 

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[LiamApex]

Dont go i7 mainstream, get a 5820K and enjoy . I develop on UE4 with a 5930K and 290s - The only downside to the 290s is lack of CUDA support in certain apps. Also 5820K is more than adequate for 2 way SLI and leaves you 1 PCI-E slot for an SSD as well as an M.2 Slot for an SSD.

 

 

 

Incremental improvements

 

#WelcomeToIntelSince2011

if hes streaming, and gaming then the 4790k is plenty enough. where did u get that incorrect info from ?

[Elfuego]

if hes streaming, and gaming then the 4790k is plenty enough. where did u get that incorrect info from ?

 

What is the point in i7 mainstream; given a X99 system is like £10 price difference for 2 extra cores. For me i5 mainstream (4460/4690K or i5-6600K) or just go X99...

[sgtsmokey]

Dont go i7 mainstream, get a 5820K and enjoy . I develop on UE4 with a 5930K and 290s - The only downside to the 290s is lack of CUDA support in certain apps. Also 5820K is more than adequate for 2 way SLI and leaves you 1 PCI-E slot for an SSD as well as an M.2 Slot for an SSD.

 

 

 

Incremental improvements

 

#WelcomeToIntelSince2011

You made an error, a 5820k doesn't define how many PCI slots you have.

If I get my bursary i will be getting a pair of 980Ti's anyway, if not I will get them next term with the next sum of money i get. I didn't list the 5820k because thats on my list to avoid as it is the same price as Skylake and doesn't feel like much of an improvement over the 4790k. 

Also running a game engine is still only rendering once source of video output. When you record or stream games it renders to video outputs at 1080p. On screen rendering for the game is handled by the GPU, off screen rendering is done by the CPU. Thefore the CPU needs to handle the game information at 1080p 60fps and record on a separate render at 1080p 60fps. Now most people I have seen with a 4790k run Dota or LoL to stream and they aren't the most demanding of games.

[LiamApex]

What is the point in i7 mainstream; given a X99 system is like £10 price difference for 2 extra cores.

your original statement was completely different to this so i ask again where did you get your incorrect information from ?

[Elfuego]

You made an error, a 5820k doesn't define how many PCI slots you have.

If I get my bursary i will be getting a pair of 980Ti's anyway, if not I will get them next term with the next sum of money i get. I didn't list the 5820k because thats on my list to avoid as it is the same price as Skylake and doesn't feel like much of an improvement over the 4790k. 

Also running a game engine is still only rendering once source of video output. When you record or stream games it renders to video outputs at 1080p. On screen rendering for the game is handled by the GPU, off screen rendering is done by the CPU. Thefore the CPU needs to handle the game information at 1080p 60fps and record on a separate render at 1080p 60fps. Now most people I have seen with a 4790k run Dota or LoL to stream and they aren't the most demanding of games.

 

Its also hex core vs Quad core... Once overclocked those 2 cores are a huge improvement.(Same performance in single threaded workload, 50-60% faster in multithreaded ones).

 

No but it does only have 28 lanes compared to 40, which means 3 way SLI + an M.2 SSD or 2 way SLI, a PCI-E ssd and an M.2 SSD. So yes it kinda does.

[LiamApex]

You made an error, a 5820k doesn't define how many PCI slots you have.

If I get my bursary i will be getting a pair of 980Ti's anyway, if not I will get them next term with the next sum of money i get. I didn't list the 5820k because thats on my list to avoid as it is the same price as Skylake and doesn't feel like much of an improvement over the 4790k. 

Also running a game engine is still only rendering once source of video output. When you record or stream games it renders to video outputs at 1080p. On screen rendering for the game is handled by the GPU, off screen rendering is done by the CPU. Thefore the CPU needs to handle the game information at 1080p 60fps and record on a separate render at 1080p 60fps. Now most people I have seen with a 4790k run Dota or LoL to stream and they aren't the most demanding of games.

Mmm yea i agree with you i dont list the 5820k either.

[Elfuego]

You made an error, a 5820k doesn't define how many PCI slots you have.

If I get my bursary i will be getting a pair of 980Ti's anyway, if not I will get them next term with the next sum of money i get. I didn't list the 5820k because thats on my list to avoid as it is the same price as Skylake and doesn't feel like much of an improvement over the 4790k. 

Also running a game engine is still only rendering once source of video output. When you record or stream games it renders to video outputs at 1080p. On screen rendering for the game is handled by the GPU, off screen rendering is done by the CPU. Thefore the CPU needs to handle the game information at 1080p 60fps and record on a separate render at 1080p 60fps. Now most people I have seen with a 4790k run Dota or LoL to stream and they aren't the most demanding of games.

 

Oh my bad I forgot to mention one* edge case.

 

if you use an X99 Board with a PLX chip (AFAIK Asus X-99 E WS Is the only board, but it is possible others exist, I haven't looked.) with a 5820K you can run 6 PCI-E devices + the M.2 Drive.