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I just watched the new tech quickie and disagreed on two parts of it:

Why would you want something non-conductive? I use Arctic Silver 5 and have been for years. It has never let me down and yet it is conductive. How would being conductive make a difference. You would have to be a complete [word] to smear the compound over any components. And yes I have over applied once before I knew the tech world existed. I used about half a tube 2.5g of the things on an AM3 CPU and It still didn't do anything.

Secondly I disagree with the line/P method. I still think that doing an even layer with a plastic bag, (or plastic sleeve which is what I prefer to use), to spread it is much better because you have control over how it spreads.

(This is not a rant. Its a discussion. I am not saying Linus is wrong and I am right)

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I think we can "discuss" applications methods till the cows come home. In the end, they all do a pretty good job of spreading. All except if you completly tighten one corner at a time which will result in a pretty poor one...

As for non-conductive, I have seen a junior tech who was applying some grease, not realize that he dripped a bit on the mobo while checking something else. Doesn't happen often, but can - so, better safe.

As for artic silver 5... It's not conductive... I love this post...

http://www.overclock.net/t/140813/ar...lly-conductive

As per the Arctic site, it's safe. :)

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I just watched the new tech quickie and disagreed on two parts of it:
Why would you want something non-conductive? I use Arctic Silver 5 and have been for years. It has never let me down and yet it is conductive. How would being conductive make a difference. You would have to be a complete [word] to smear the compound over any components. And yes I have over applied once before I knew the tech world existed. I used about half a tube 2.5g of the things on an AM3 CPU and It still didn't do anything. Secondly I disagree with the line/P method. I still think that doing an even layer with a plastic bag' date=' (or plastic sleeve which is what I prefer to use), to spread it is much better because you have control over how it spreads. (This is not a rant. Its a discussion. I am not saying Linus is wrong and I am right) [/quote']

I've tested a "thin spread+thin line" vs a "single line" so many times (running the cpus for a week before taking results) and the differences were within margin of error.

As for arctic silver 5, I'm not even going to have the conductive vs non-conductive discussions, arctic silver 5 is outdated, doesn't preform top anymore, has a long "settle in" time, and doesn't last nearly as long as new stuff.

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I think we can "discuss" applications methods till the cows come home. In the end, they all do a pretty good job of spreading. All except if you completly tighten one corner at a time which will result in a pretty poor one...

As for non-conductive, I have seen a junior tech who was applying some grease, not realize that he dripped a bit on the mobo while checking something else. Doesn't happen often, but can - so, better safe.

As for artic silver 5... It's not conductive... I love this post...

http://www.overclock.net/t/140813/ar...lly-conductive

As per the Arctic site, it's safe. :)

To be honest it wouldn't make a difference to me if its conductive or not. I've used the analogy before but its like people buying non-conductive coolant for watercooling If it spills you're screwed either way.

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I just watched the new tech quickie and disagreed on two parts of it:
Why would you want something non-conductive? I use Arctic Silver 5 and have been for years. It has never let me down and yet it is conductive. How would being conductive make a difference. You would have to be a complete [word] to smear the compound over any components. And yes I have over applied once before I knew the tech world existed. I used about half a tube 2.5g of the things on an AM3 CPU and It still didn't do anything. Secondly I disagree with the line/P method. I still think that doing an even layer with a plastic bag' date=' (or plastic sleeve which is what I prefer to use), to spread it is much better because you have control over how it spreads. (This is not a rant. Its a discussion. I am not saying Linus is wrong and I am right) [/quote']

I've tested a "thin spread+thin line" vs a "single line" so many times (running the cpus for a week before taking results) and the differences were within margin of error.

As for arctic silver 5, I'm not even going to have the conductive vs non-conductive discussions, arctic silver 5 is outdated, doesn't preform top anymore, has a long "settle in" time, and doesn't last nearly as long as new stuff.

Doesn't last? Mines lasted for about 3 years.

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I think we can "discuss" applications methods till the cows come home. In the end, they all do a pretty good job of spreading. All except if you completly tighten one corner at a time which will result in a pretty poor one...

As for non-conductive, I have seen a junior tech who was applying some grease, not realize that he dripped a bit on the mobo while checking something else. Doesn't happen often, but can - so, better safe.

As for artic silver 5... It's not conductive... I love this post...

http://www.overclock.net/t/140813/ar...lly-conductive

As per the Arctic site, it's safe. :)

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I just watched the new tech quickie and disagreed on two parts of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p6Hk4IfqI Why would you want something non-conductive? I use Arctic Silver 5 and have been for years. It has never let me down and yet it is conductive. How would being conductive make a difference. You would have to be a complete [word] to smear the compound over any components. And yes I have over applied once before I knew the tech world existed. I used about half a tube 2.5g of the things on an AM3 CPU and It still didn't do anything. Secondly I disagree with the line/P method. I still think that doing an even layer with a plastic bag' date=' (or plastic sleeve which is what I prefer to use), to spread it is much better because you have control over how it spreads. (This is not a rant. Its a discussion. I am not saying Linus is wrong and I am right) [/quote']

I've tested a "thin spread+thin line" vs a "single line" so many times (running the cpus for a week before taking results) and the differences were within margin of error.

As for arctic silver 5, I'm not even going to have the conductive vs non-conductive discussions, arctic silver 5 is outdated, doesn't preform top anymore, has a long "settle in" time, and doesn't last nearly as long as new stuff.

I can promise you if you re-apply you will see a drop in temps. Even on their website is says it only works at optimal levels for a year, after that it starts degrading. Does it still work? Yes, just not as well. I used to solely advocate it for years, but then i made the switch to GC Extreme and never looked back.
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Ugh Arctic Silver 5 is so oldschool, lol. The week long break-in times for temps were always lame. Used to be amazing though, too much competition from much better (and cheaper) products.

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I used to use Arctic Silver 5, but I switched to TIM Consultants Quantum because it's cheaper and it works really good!

You can buy it directly from than manufacturer for ~$5 with shipping, and in some of the tests I have seen online it is in the top 10 thermal pastes which are all within 1 or 2C of each other.

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I use to use Arctic Silver 5 but the cost of it is a bit high which is why i now use Noctua's thermal paste.

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I think we can "discuss" applications methods till the cows come home. In the end, they all do a pretty good job of spreading. All except if you completly tighten one corner at a time which will result in a pretty poor one...

As for non-conductive, I have seen a junior tech who was applying some grease, not realize that he dripped a bit on the mobo while checking something else. Doesn't happen often, but can - so, better safe.

As for artic silver 5... It's not conductive... I love this post...

http://www.overclock.net/t/140813/ar...lly-conductive

As per the Arctic site, it's safe. :)

Well you aren't screwed directly since it absorbs ions over time if you notice it directly you should't hav ea problem.
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I use Arctic Silver 5 and have been for years. It has never let me down and yet it is conductive. How would being conductive make a difference. You would have to be a complete [word] to smear the compound over any components. And yes I have over applied once before I knew the tech world existed. I used about half a tube 2.5g of the things on an AM3 CPU and It still didn't do anything.

It is still better if you fuck up. Also, AS5 has a lower thermal conductivity than MX4.

Secondly I disagree with the line/P method. I still think that doing an even layer with a plastic bag, (or plastic sleeve which is what I prefer to use), to spread it is much better because you have control over how it spreads. (This is not a rant. Its a discussion. I am not saying Linus is wrong and I am right)

Go look up Logan's video or any of the other videos on it. It is clearly better to put a dot or a line in the centre.

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