computer does not boot with graphicscard inserted

[PlayerX]

Hello,

My old pc has a problem: when there is a graphics card inserted in the pci-e gen 2 slot, the computer does not boot. The fans of both cpu cooler and gpu cooler ramp up but no input signal or hdd activity.

I tried to do a cmos reset but it made everything worse.

The story to comprehend the problem better:

This issue appeared last year: I was using the pc the whole day and in the evening I shut it down normally. The next day I powered it up and all of the fans ramp up to their max without the pc booting.

After a while I removed the GT220 and it worked fine. I tried the GT 220 in another pc and it worked fine as well (and it is still fully functional at this moment). I brought the pc to a local pc store to repair it. the guy kept it there for some days and gave it back to me with a graphicscard without a fan. in the store the pc was able to boot, but at home I connected a external fan and the same happened again. I'm not sure but I think that after removing the fan it still did not work. I brought it back to the store and the guy removed the card. After this I bought a new pc and did not care anymore about this trouble until one day the motherboard of my new pc bricked. Since it will take several months to repair according to the reseller I decided to put a graphicscard back in. I got a r7 240 and put it in. it worked fine. I installed the latest drivers and played also some games. the next day when I booted the driver wasn't enabled since the windows bar was buggy (you could see parts of icons behind other icons, all the animations weren't enabled (although they were in the windows options). when I ran the autodetect utility from amd it told me that he did not recognise any radeon or amd card. (the screen was connected through the graphicscard)

I decided to do a cmos reset. the result was that it does not recognise the graphicscard anymore resulting in the same problem I had with the gt220 before.

Does anyone of you know what the problem could be and/or what I can do?

I would be glad if someone could help me.

 

my specs:

Motherboard: g45t/g43t-am3

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400

PSU: DPS-250AB 22 D (250W)

 

[DXMember]

don't put in graphics card - problem solved!

 

i believe you need a new power supply.

when PSU ages it tends to lose the maximum clean power it can deliver

[PlayerX]

don't put in graphics card - problem solved!

 

i believe you need a new power supply.

when PSU ages it tends to lose the maximum clean power it can deliver

when I experienced this issue the first time, I used a B700 psu from coolermaster (700W)

I put only the old one back in because I needed it for the new pc.

I don't think that it's a psu problem since I was able to play games for a whole evening without experiencing problems.

[DXMember]

motherboard bad?

[PlayerX]

motherboard bad?

what do you mean with "motherboard bad?"?

[Dabombinable]

Perhaps the HDD is dying and corrupting files?

 

Edit: Your only using a 250 PSU? Yeesh, I myself don't go below 350W in any build to make sure that the PSU doesn't 'wear' to the point it no longer delivers enough power.

[PlayerX]

Update:

I just restarted the pc and put in the graphics card and the pc was able to boot again with graphicscard (the screen was connected to the graphicscard). I forgot to mention before that when I press the power button with a graphics card inserted it starts without a beep and shuts down after a few seconds, than it starts again after another few seconds and then it makes the beep and boots normally.

Then again it gave all the simptoms of "no graphics driver" (no windows animations, and no game was able to launch (they closed before the game window popped up, I only could see the process for less than a second with the task manager)). I looked up in the device manager and it showed the r7 200 series and under those proprieties it said that the driver was installed and that the device worked correctly. Also the autodetect utility told me that the latest driver was installed.

then again I rebooted: It started without a beep, shut itself after some seconds down, repeated this one more time and the third time the fan of the graphicscard spinned with the max speed and the pc did not boot anymore.

I removed the card again and was able to boot again as nothing would be.

[PlayerX]

Perhaps the HDD is dying and corrupting files?

 

Edit: Your only using a 250 PSU? Yeesh, I myself don't go below 350W in any build to make sure that the PSU doesn't 'wear' to the point it no longer delivers enough power.

it could be that the main windows hdd is near the end but one year ago I was using a ssd as primary and this hdd as secondary

I can reinstall the new 700W psu, but i don't know if it will change something since it is the same I had installed back then when this problem first appeared.

Do you think it's worth a try?

[PlayerX]

ok I just calculated the wattage: 232W - 268W (peak load)

[DXMember]

what do you mean with "motherboard bad?"?

I mean the PCI-E slot might be damaged.

[PlayerX]

I mean the PCI-E slot might be damaged.

ok and is there a possibility to save this motherboard or do I have to exchange it if I want to use the pci-e slot?

[DXMember]

ok and is there a possibility to save this motherboard or do I have to exchange it if I want to use the pci-e slot?

Is that the only PCI-E slot on the motherboard? - try in different slot

Does the GPU work in another PC?

Does the PC work with another GPU?

[PlayerX]

Is that the only PCI-E slot on the motherboard? - try in different slot

Does the GPU work in another PC?

Does the PC work with another GPU?

it is the only x16 slot... there is another x1 and two other old scool pci slots

the gpu works fine in other pcs (the gt220 and the r7 240)

The pc like I mentioned, did not work with the  220 and with another radeon card I tried last year. But this card worked the first time without problems and I played even several games. Then the pc was able to boot sometimes with and sometimes without this card. Now for example it was again able to boot with the card and I'm running the monitor of the card...

[PlayerX]

I just installed the 700W psu:

the amd gaming evolved software keeps telling me that a new driver is ready for download despite the devicemanager telling that I have installed the driver (which I installed a few days ago)

[killtothis]

Check driver version numbers? make sure it's not the same one. Wasn't 14.12 released before xmas?

[PlayerX]

I will download it and install it now

[PlayerX]

it told me that it is already installed...

I installed it and now it seems to work... But I don't know for how long.

I will post the results after booting several times.

[PlayerX]

so I rebooted for about 2 times and it seems working for the moment...

I'll keep this thread up to date if something changes

Thank you all for your answers

[Dabombinable]

so I rebooted for about 2 times and it seems working for the moment...

I'll keep this thread up to date if something changes

Thank you all for your answers

I was going to say its worth re-installing the 700W PSU, but if your rigs working then I guess you might be good to go. I also installed the same drivers on my laptop (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650-I'm surprised its still supported) and had the same issue, I fixed it by un-installing the drivers, and then rebooting so the computer could automatically install them, then rebooting again. Though since the laptop also has the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 things are a bit more finicky when it comes to drivers-I need to use a significantly older driver for it.