need an upgrade

[chris foreman]

i have a dell 018d1y motherboard with intel core 2 duo e6400 2GB of ddr3 ram and a nivida geforce 7900 gtx i want to upgrade this without spending alot to do so plz help

 

[theereal]

 

i have a dell 018d1y motherboard with intel core 2 duo e6400 2GB of ddr3 ram and a nivida geforce 7900 gtx i want to upgrade this without spending alot to do so plz help

 

 

Whats your budget? Also which parts do you want to upgrade? And why are you upgrading, what is the use for this PC?

[AdamH96]

Budget?

[chris foreman]

i dont now wat my budget is yet quad core cpu nvidia gc and more ram 8GB is what i want does this help

[chris foreman]

i dont now wat my budget is yet quad core cpu nvidia gc and more ram 8GB is what i want does this help

and it is for gaming

[chris foreman]

Whats your budget? Also which parts do you want to upgrade? And why are you upgrading, what is the use for this PC?

i dont now wat my budget is yet quad core cpu nvidia gc and more ram 8GB is what i want does this help and it for gaming

[JustChilliing]

What power is your PSU?

[salecar3]

Location, you can get i5(any hasswel would d and z97h97 mobo with 8gb of ram and gtx 970 at 1080p60fps ultra or if lower rez like r9 380 or 960

[chris foreman]

What power is your PSU?

i do not know that sorry

[Mug]

750ti would be a safe bet

[theereal]

i do not know that sorry

You don't know the PSU of your computer, and that makes it hard/impossible to help you out, we need to know how much your PSU can handle, how many pin connectors it has etc, just open the case and there should be a sticker on it with something that can help us out

[Fgtfv567]

This upgrade does not look good for you considering your budget ("i want to upgrade this without spending alot") and how weak and outdated your components are.

Hell, I think the only thing that is worth salvaging is your HDD, at least it has an OS on it... And the HDD might be crap too, I dunno, but based on your other parts it's probably a low storage HDD, possibly 5400 RPM, and contain an old OS.

 

At this point, you might as well buy a brand new PC, and turn the old one into a spare PC, NAS, or game server.

But whatever you do, remember this: If you don't have the money to buy all the parts you need, just don't buy anything until you have the money to buy everything in one fell swoop.

This is the cheapest PC build I can muster up:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($58.65 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX/WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($56.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card  ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $465.42

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-15 18:40 EDT-0400

[Prysin]

This upgrade does not look good for you considering your budget ("i want to upgrade this without spending alot") and how weak your components are.

Hell, I think the only thing that is worth salvaging is your HDD, at least it has an OS on it... And the HDD might be crap too, I dunno, but based on your other parts it's probably a low storage HDD, possibly 5400 RPM, and contain an old OS.

At this point, you might as well buy a brand new PC, and turn the old one into a spare PC, NAS, or game server.

But whatever you do, remember this: If you don't have the money to buy all the parts you need, just don't buy anything until you have the money to buy everything in one fell swoop.

This is the cheapest PC build I can muster up:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($58.65 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX/WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($56.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case ($30.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ NCIX US)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $465.42

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-15 18:40 EDT-0400

While a G3258 makes sense for having fun with OC. it makes little to no sesnse in a gaming rig. It will struggle with newer titles that, even with a 260X, could be played at low settings.

I suggest that the lowest CPUs you go for is either Athlon X4 860k or Intel i3 4130. The Athlon is just as cheap as the G3258, but has 4 threads, so it will run slightly better in newer titles, but being slower at single core, it will run slightly slower in older titles. STILL, a Athlon 860k can keep up with an i3 in most modern titles, outside of gaming Intel wins hands down, but tons and tons of benchmarks (860k = the CPU in the A10 7850k) prove that the Athlon can keep up with i3, albeit a few % slower in general.

OPTIONALLY, if OP needs to save money, you could go with a A10 7850k APU now, wait 2-3 months and save up for a R9 380 (best GPU that you wont bottleneck with a 860k or A10 7850k).

Yes FM2+ is dead, but the whole setup can be had for as little as 360ish USD if you go full budget.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bxhWvK

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bxhWvK/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($123.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($50.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)

Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $358.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-16 01:29 EDT-0400

Yes, FM2+ offers no good upgrade path short of a GPU, however, this happens to be the case of Intel too atm. Intel is moving onto a new socket and DDR4 ram for their new CPUs, Skylake. Thus nothing you buy now will work with newer intel CPUs. It is also worth mentioning that while you can buy a LGA 1150/1155 CPU for a long time, you wont be able to do so in the forseeable future. So if you are looking for something that will last you 1-2 years, APU will work fine with a GPU. If you need more horsepower and want your PC to last and play games for the next 3-5 years, you really need a Intel i5, minimum a i5 4460....

[Fgtfv567]

While a G3258 makes sense for having fun with OC. it makes little to no sesnse in a gaming rig. It will struggle with newer titles that, even with a 260X, could be played at low settings.

I suggest that the lowest CPUs you go for is either Athlon X4 860k or Intel i3 4130. The Athlon is just as cheap as the G3258, but has 4 threads, so it will run slightly better in newer titles, but being slower at single core, it will run slightly slower in older titles. STILL, a Athlon 860k can keep up with an i3 in most modern titles, outside of gaming Intel wins hands down, but tons and tons of benchmarks (860k = the CPU in the A10 7850k) prove that the Athlon can keep up with i3, albeit a few % slower in general.

OPTIONALLY, if OP needs to save money, you could go with a A10 7850k APU now, wait 2-3 months and save up for a R9 380 (best GPU that you wont bottleneck with a 860k or A10 7850k).

Yes FM2+ is dead, but the whole setup can be had for as little as 360ish USD if you go full budget.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bxhWvK

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bxhWvK/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($123.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($50.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)

Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $358.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-16 01:29 EDT-0400

Yes, FM2+ offers no good upgrade path short of a GPU, however, this happens to be the case of Intel too atm. Intel is moving onto a new socket and DDR4 ram for their new CPUs, Skylake. Thus nothing you buy now will work with newer intel CPUs. It is also worth mentioning that while you can buy a LGA 1150/1155 CPU for a long time, you wont be able to do so in the forseeable future. So if you are looking for something that will last you 1-2 years, APU will work fine with a GPU. If you need more horsepower and want your PC to last and play games for the next 3-5 years, you really need a Intel i5, minimum a i5 4460....

The point of that build was to put together one of the cheapest rigs possible, while being easily upgradable once you have the money in the future. Upgrading an APU means buying a new CPU AND mobo. Not to mention the extra work you'll have to do swapping mobos.

The i3 4130 or 4160 costs a whole 40 dollars more than the G3258. And the only real difference between the two is that the i3 has hyperthreading and can turbo. But the G3258 is OCable even with H81 boards. And there's not a huge difference between games with/without HT. CPU-intensive stuff, ok I can't argue, it helps, but right now we're talking about solely video games.

http://www.dsogaming.com/editorial/report-despite-claims-most-pc-games-are-still-unable-to-take-advantage-of-more-than-4-cpu-cores/

[Fgtfv567]

 

i have a dell 018d1y motherboard with intel core 2 duo e6400 2GB of ddr3 ram and a nivida geforce 7900 gtx i want to upgrade this without spending alot to do so plz help

 

 

Chris, please follow your topics at the top so you know when someone responds to you

[Prysin]

The point of that build was to put together one of the cheapest rigs possible, while being easily upgradable once you have the money in the future. Upgrading an APU means buying a new CPU AND mobo. Not to mention the extra work you'll have to do swapping mobos.

The i3 4130 or 4160 costs a whole 40 dollars more than the G3258. And the only real difference between the two is that the i3 has hyperthreading and can turbo. But the G3258 is OCable even with H81 boards. And there's not a huge difference between games with/without HT. CPU-intensive stuff, ok I can't argue, it helps, but right now we're talking about solely video games.

http://www.dsogaming.com/editorial/report-despite-claims-most-pc-games-are-still-unable-to-take-advantage-of-more-than-4-cpu-cores/

Those benchmarks doesnt tell the whole truth. In some games, you cannot even play with a G3258. Far Cry 4, Dragon Age inquisition to mention a couple. GTA V will play, but people are complaining about stutters and freezes in NPC heavy areas, certainly not a good thing. The 860k does not have such issues, atleast no reports of it.

The best upgrade for a APU, is just a GPU. Why just a GPU? because if you buy a R9 380 today, then wait for say ZEN or Skylake to release/drop prices, then the 380 will still be very relevant, while the G3258 will, just like any FM2+ build, require a full system update too, to get newer parts.

New intel and New AMD parts will not work with older system parts. They will both use DDR4 RAM, both have new sockets and new chipsets.

There is no upgrade path for Haswell atm, other then second hand or leftovers once Skylake drops. That is a thing you must accept.

Cosidering my setup is 108 USD cheaper then yours, while still being able to play games, and even match the G3258/i3 4130 in gaming performance, then you realize that that is 108 USD saved. Pocket the money and start saving for a 225 USD GPU. BAM, performance issues fixed.

At most, perhaps i should swap the CX430 for a 500 or 550w PSU so that OP can OC his GPU and CPU. But even then my setup would still be cheaper then yours while giving close to same performance CPU wise.

There is also the cost element of upgrading the setup you showed. While your setup WILL get better FPS thanks to get R7 260X, it will also cap out quite fast, most games will run at 40-50FPS at best, while the APU will hit 25-35 FPS in newer titles and well, old games itll prolly hit 60 FPS with the exception of Fear, Crysis, Unreal Tournament and Far Cry.

To get an i3 + a R9 380 or 280X is atleast 300 USD, maybe as much as 350.... you can get a R9 380 for around 250 USD (4GB version), for the APU setup, and you'd still get satisfying gaming capabilities, while being able to maintain a low initial purchase price, then upgrade to a better GPU later, while still getting near i3 performance.

That is a boon, that the G3258 does not offer. Better GPU will still result in a dual core bottlenecking the crap out of it, so you need an i3 sooner or later.

There is also the case of overclocking. Sure overclocking the APU wont yield amazing results like the G3258, however i would think it takes less fiddling, as ive personally been able to overclock the APU by 10-15% in performance without starting to mess with voltages and such. That means more userfriendly overclocking. While the G3258 will take some initial skill to get stable at the higher clock speeds. Without going balls to the wall with the pentium, it really isnt that great, its first when you hit closer to 4.5 to 4.8GHz that it becomes a performance monster. Prior to that it is good, just not THAT good unfortunatly.