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I'm going to build a pc for myself. It will include the core i5 4690k and gigabyte h81m-s1. 

The stock bios does not support the haswell cpus so i will have to upgrade the bios to a newer version. I know how to upgrade the bios with qflash. 

 

My question is will the motherboard be able to post and enter the bios before the bios upgrade. If not then how to upgrade the bios. 

Please don't give me a hard time for the motherboard choice, this is what my budget allows and I shall upgrade to a better motherboard. 

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Why the hell buy a 4790k and H81 board? If u knew ur budget, then 4690k better option.

 

 

And no the board will NOT post with that CPU unless it was already updated.

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get the z97 anniversary from asrock

Did you read the whole post?

 

@OP It shouldn't boot without a supported CPU. Some boards have USB Flashback which means it can be done without even a CPU (not that board though). Only way I know of would be to buy the cheapest chip for the board and do the update. You may be able to buy a CPU from a store, then return it after the update. 

 

Have you looked for H97 boards to see if any are within budget?

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The questions are...

What is H81 with i5-4690K?

What is i5-4690K when on when on tight budget?

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If you're getting an unlocked CPU, you owe it to yourself to get a motherboard that can actually overclock it, otherwise it's absolutely meaningless. It's a waste of money. If you're overclocking, save your pennies and get a decent Z87 board, if not, get a Xeon E3-1230v3, an H97 board and leave it at that.

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it depends when the board was shipped from the factory. My MSI H81M-P33 was able to boot with my G3258, which is a Haswell Refresh CPU.

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If you are buying the motherboard now it is pretty unlikely that it doesn't already have a new enough BIOS.

 

There is nothing wrong with using an i5 on that motherboard, you just won't be doing any overclocking.

 

Also I'm just going to leave this quote from OP here. I'm sure he'll get bored with having to repeat himself ad nauseam because apparently no one here bothered to read what he said:

 

 

Please don't give me a hard time for the motherboard choice, this is what my budget allows and I shall upgrade to a better motherboard. 

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Did you read the whole post?

 

@OP It shouldn't boot without a supported CPU. Some boards have USB Flashback which means it can be done without even a CPU (not that board though). Only way I know of would be to buy the cheapest chip for the board and do the update. You may be able to buy a CPU from a store, then return it after the update. 

 

Have you looked for H97 boards to see if any are within budget?

the mobo I suggested is only 40$ over the one he have in mind so if he want to avoid any trouble and get a z97 that will be on pair with his cpu I'm sure he can find a way to make or find that 40$

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Did you read the whole post?

 

@OP It shouldn't boot without a supported CPU. Some boards have USB Flashback which means it can be done without even a CPU (not that board though). Only way I know of would be to buy the cheapest chip for the board and do the update. You may be able to buy a CPU from a store, then return it after the update. 

 

Have you looked for H97 boards to see if any are within budget?

 

The gigabyte board that i'm going to use supports usb flash but for that you have to be in the bios. 

Will i be able to get to the bios?.

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Zed Nien Seven Chipset

 

 

get the z97 anniversary from asrock

 

 

Why the hell buy a 4790k and H81 board? If u knew ur budget, then 4690k better option.

 

If you're getting an unlocked CPU, you owe it to yourself to get a motherboard that can actually overclock it, otherwise it's absolutely meaningless. It's a waste of money. If you're overclocking, save your pennies and get a decent Z87 board, if not, get a Xeon E3-1230v3, an H97 board and leave it at that.

 

 

Guys at least read what I have asked....... You are not doing any good to the situation. 

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Guys at least read what I have asked....... You are not doing any good to the situation. 

Unless u have a haswell/sandybridge cpu so u can update the board u cannot use that board with that cpu

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Guys at least read what I have asked....... You are not doing any good to the situation. 

No, we have read what you've asked, and those are our answers. Save your pennies, get a proper motherboard and/or go with a non-K processor. It's not worth the hassle. What you're asking simply makes no sense. Why would you go ahead with buying incompatible processors and motherboards?

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It is a haswell refresh,  does that count!! 

I just need to get to the bios

no it does NOT count

and u wont be able to POST or get to the bios those 2 items are NOT compatible without a bios update with a cpu thats compatible out of the box, maybe take it to a local pc store and get them to do it for a small fee? cheaper than buying a new board...

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No, we have read what you've asked, and those are our answers. Save your pennies, get a proper motherboard and/or go with a non-K processor. It's not worth the hassle. What you're asking simply makes no sense. Why would you go ahead with buying incompatible processors and motherboards?

 

You clearly haven't. He's literally buying a cheap motherboard now so that he has a working system while he saves up for a better motherboard in the future. If he bought a locked CPU now he would have to buy both a new CPU AND motherboard in the near future when he actually wants to overclock the damned thing. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

 

 

They aren't incompatible. There was a bios update when Haswell refresh came out that made it compatible with the new motherboards. Like I said, if you're buying this motherboard now in the second half of 2015 I will be very surprised if it's still running the original BIOS!
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You clearly haven't. He's literally buying a cheap motherboard now so that he has a working system while he saves up for a better motherboard in the future. If he bought a locked CPU now he would have to buy both a new CPU AND motherboard in the near future when he actually wants to overclock the damned thing. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

guy, a decent z97 motherboard he could use to overclock is around $30-40 more than what he wants to spend on an H81, less if it's on sale. If this were a job- or otherwise-related situation in which OP needed the computer up and running immediately, I could understand, but it looks like he's just building a computer for himself because he wants a new computer. If he's set on it, fine, but it would be a lot cheaper in the long run if he would just be patient, waited until his budget was marginally bigger and got a good motherboard. There are about a dozen good motherboards out there for less than twice what the H81m costs.

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I'm going to build a pc for myself. It will include the core i5 4690k and gigabyte h81m-s1. 

The stock bios does not support the haswell cpus so i will have to upgrade the bios to a newer version. I know how to upgrade the bios with qflash. 

 

My question is will the motherboard be able to post and enter the bios before the bios upgrade. If not then how to upgrade the bios. 

Please don't give me a hard time for the motherboard choice, this is what my budget allows and I shall upgrade to a better motherboard. 

OP, what is your budget?

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guy, a decent z97 motherboard he could use to overclock is around $30-40 more than what he wants to spend on an H81, less if it's on sale. If this were a job- or otherwise-related situation in which OP needed the computer up and running immediately, I could understand, but it looks like he's just building a computer for himself because he wants a new computer. If he's set on it, fine, but it would be a lot cheaper in the long run if he would just be patient, waited until his budget was marginally bigger and got a good motherboard. There are about a dozen good motherboards out there for less than twice what the H81m costs.

The cheapest z97 mobo where I live costs around $150 which is quite a bump over my current budget of $50 for the mobo

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You clearly haven't. He's literally buying a cheap motherboard now so that he has a working system while he saves up for a better motherboard in the future. If he bought a locked CPU now he would have to buy both a new CPU AND motherboard in the near future when he actually wants to overclock the damned thing. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

 

 

They aren't incompatible. There was a bios update when Haswell refresh came out that made it compatible with the new motherboards. Like I said, if you're buying this motherboard now in the second half of 2015 I will be very surprised if it's still running the original BIOS!

Thank you very much for explaining the guys about my plan.

After reading the reply i am thinking of getting a h97 motherboard instead. Will the h97 chipset(gigabyte ga h97m-d3h to be precise) support haswell refresh natively without a bios upgrade.

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Thank you very much for explaining the guys about my plan.

After reading the reply i am thinking of getting a h97 motherboard instead. Will the h97 chipset(gigabyte ga h97m-d3h to be precise) support haswell refresh natively without a bios upgrade.

Yes, the H97 supports "Haswell" and "Devil's Canyon" (AKA Haswell refresh) by default.

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it depends when the board was shipped from the factory. My MSI H81M-P33 was able to boot with my G3258, which is a Haswell Refresh CPU.

The 3258 will boot with most boards. Its a weird cpu and doesn't quite behave like the rest of the devils canyon in this respect.

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