Pull the trigger on new build?

[temreki]

Hello everyone.

 

This will be my 3rd complete build from the ground up spanning about 10 years. Primarily this will be used for gaming/school/work, working on one monitor for gaming and two for stuff like research papers (no 3d). I'll be running windows 7 ultimate 64x and playing games such as battlefield 4 and rome 2.

 

My budget is right around $1200, obviously I'd like to get the most bang for my buck. Located in the U.S. One of the biggest goals of this build is longevity, I'd like to have a system that easy to upgrade in the future and will last me 4-5 years (at least the mobo/psu/ssd/hd/drives/case). For example, I'm going with the GTX 760 2GB because in two years or so I might just buy a second one instead of getting a newer (expensive) graphics card.

 

MOBO will allow me to double my RAM later, PSU is sufficient, going to run an SSD for the first time too. The processor is pretty cheap but many people have given high reviews, saying that you can OC and get great performance out of it. I realize that the i7 is probably a better performer, but $100-$200 for a couple tenths of a GHz more seems unnecessary (correct me if i'm wrong).

 

Any comments or suggestions? I'm just about at the top of my budget, but if there's an upgrade that will drastically increase performance/longevity/compatibility for a reasonable cost then I'll pony up.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Temreki/saved/21rh

 

CD drive/keyboard/mouse/OS/headset already owned.

[Guest GRRigger]

I would at least get 4GB card model, or 3Gb from AMD.
The last thing you want is to have is vram bottleneck in your video card. Now this is not a problem, but when you will add another card, you will have still only 2Gb and games will probably want more ^_˘
Do you have chance to sell it in future? Cus that would be better. And then buy single card.

8320 can be OCed to 8350s clocks, some people get lucky and get even better clocks with no water cooling, but you would gain much more if you go with 8350.

[Samdb]

If you can get the H100i, or the H220 is you can afford it.

[Samdb]

I would at least get 4GB card model, or 3Gb from AMD.

You only need more than 2GB if you intend on running multiple monitors.

[Guest GRRigger]

You only need more than 2GB if you intend on running multiple monitors.

Right now, yes. But after x years when he adds another card 2Gb can be bottleneck and he would have to satisfy himself with no anti aliasing, lower textures,...

Last year 1 Gb was "enough", this year 2Gb in necessity. 1gb cards are almost free now, 7770 is like 80 bucks, 7850 1gb is like 140. 

4k textures ... 

[Samdb]

Right now, yes. But after x years when he adds another card 2Gb can be bottleneck and he would have to satisfy himself with no anti aliasing, lower textures,...

Last year 1 Gb was "enough", this year 2Gb in necessity. 1gb cards are almost free now, 7770 is like 80 bucks, 7850 1gb is like 140. 

There is no way you can guess what the future of gaming will be. And two 760 will not really bottleneck an FX-8320.

[Guest GRRigger]

There is no way you can guess what the future of gaming will be. And two 760 will not really bottleneck an FX-8320.

Oh, i meant to say 2gb will be bottleneck, if he doesnt upgrade in future to bigger card, not just add another 2gb card.

But you are right about future. Alltho he mentions he want futureproof build. Idk then.

But i do expect bigger textures in future. Not in Battlefield 4, but in Battlefield 5 :P

[temreki]

8320 can be OCed to 8350s clocks, some people get lucky and get even better clocks with no water cooling, but you would gain much more if you go with 8350.

 

I've seen it written that an 8320 is the same exact thing as an 8350, just with a lower stock clock and that both can be OCd to about the same GHz. Any thoughts?

 

It's true that I won't ever run multiple monitors for gaming, but like GRRigger said, I'm trying to plan ahead a little bit. Perhaps something like a 3GB Radeon 7950 or GTX 660 Ti is better for the long haul?

[temreki]

Oh, i meant to say 2gb will be bottleneck, if he doesnt upgrade in future to bigger card, not just add another 2gb card.

But you are right about future. Alltho he mentions he want futureproof build. Idk then.

But i do expect bigger textures in future. Not in Battlefield 4, but in Battlefield 5 :P

So let me get this straight, with the FX-8320 and the GTX 760, it wouldn't be worth it to buy a second 760 in the future because the processor can't handle it?

[Importedham]

I agree i think you should just sell the 760 when it starts getting slow, bc there will always be that middle class card that runs everything fine like there is today for the same 300$. But either way you are going to be spending some money when it gets out dated so its up to you!

[temreki]

Okay, i got it, I'm better off to just trade up in the future. Thanks

[Dravic]

Yes but I recommend getting 760 4GB anyway. don't listen to those folks who say it doesnt makes sense. And if you can, go for 770 4GB now.

 

760 'runs games fine' now, but in 1-2 years you will have hard time selling it to anybody because it will not run anything anymore at respectable framerate. 770 is in heart 680 which is a flagship from 2012, i expect 770 to be at least respectable in terms of performance much much longer.

 

Either 760 4GB or 770 4GB.

 

You will thank me when you try to use high-resolution textures and the 2GB cards will scream "HEEEELP" while 4GB cards will say "Okay, i still got some room for more textures". ))

[Guest GRRigger]

well 8320 migh need more voltage, or it might not overclock as much. its downclocked with a reason...

alltho there was a guy sayin on forum he got really good sample and could OC 8320 on stock cooler to 8350 no problem... 

oc to 4.8 with 8350 and you will have stable processor, with 8320 it can need too much voltage or is not stable, or might not even come near

[Dravic]

Nowadays after launch of another failure by AMD, called FX-9xxx series, the newest 8350 off the line won't be able to reach 4,5Ghz at stock voltage most likely, because otherwise they would be made FX-9xxx series and cost twice to four times as much.

 

Silly AMD, silly. Even 4,8GHz fx-9590 sucks vs i5. And the i5 costs 4 times less.

[WoodenMarker]

I've seen it written that an 8320 is the same exact thing as an 8350, just with a lower stock clock and that both can be OCd to about the same GHz. Any thoughts?

It's true that I won't ever run multiple monitors for gaming, but like GRRigger said, I'm trying to plan ahead a little bit. Perhaps something like a 3GB Radeon 7950 or GTX 660 Ti is better for the long haul?

The 8350 is a higher binned 8320 which is more likely to reach higher clocks more easily most of the time. 

The 7950 would be a better option.

 

Edits: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1kpnj