What actually happened?

[ciprian97pop]

So, I'm reading trough the forums and everywhere I see only people scared about their personal data being stolen from the internet, about conspirations and other bad things

Come on. You take way to serious. I'm not trying to offend any of you in any way, but I don't think that any of you knows some government secrets or something that we should be scared off. I know that protecting our personal informations and identity is a verry needed thing but some of us are taking it way to serious. I mean, there are other people that need to be concerned and to use vpn's and proxy switchers but, not you guys. I don't think that the gouvernment or the NSA will try to break your g+ or yahoo mail password.

 

You should be a litle bit more self confident because if you haven't done anything bad, you don't have to worry about conspirations and being watched, even if these two are some real threats that you need to consider

 

 

 

[T.Vengeance]

Pretty sure at least 10% of this forum goes and pirates software. That alone is enough to be scared when the govt is looking through your stuff.

 

Speak of the devil: this post just came up on the forum front page. What if you were for it and posted your support through your email?

[_wky]

I'm pretty sure that I'm spied on on the internet but I'm just cautious what I type. So far, so good...

[ciprian97pop]

Pretty sure at least 10% of this forum goes and pirates software. That alone is enough to be scared when the govt is looking through your stuff.

 

Speak of the devil: this post just came up on the forum front page. What if you were for it?

I think that a lot more persons pirate software but even the hackers(skidrow reloaded razor1911) have their own "fanbase" so they wouldn't add spyware in their work because they would become no one  and loose everything

[T.Vengeance]

I think that a lot more persons pirate software but even the hackers(skidrow reloaded razor1911) have their own "fanbase" so they wouldn't add spyware in their work because they would become no one  and loose everything

Yup, I was just giving a safe number. I know there's a bunch of people here who actually don't pirate software (I remember reading a forum post asking how many people here pirate). I myself being busy and all, don't pirate games anymore since I don't play often. So when I want a game, I buy it off steam now.

[aikoels]

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I mean, there are other people that need to be concerned and to use vpn's and proxy switchers but, not you guys. I don't think that the gouvernment or the NSA will try to break your g+ or yahoo mail password.

 

You should be a litle bit more self confident because if you haven't done anything bad, you don't have to worry about conspirations and being watched, even if these two are some real threats that you need to consider

This is a tech forum, and a decent amount of technology is pirating, hacking, ect. Now I am not saying that this forums condones this (which it doesn't) but a lot of the people who are heavily into tech (for example essentially anyone with an account here...) also tend to at least dabble in something not legal (even downloading a song from youtube, ect.) Not only that but the issue was that the NSA wasn't going after bad guys, they were doing just what you said, breaking into random things and taking information, for exmaple phone calls, random people were followed, not people doing illegal things, that is why it is bad. Sure I haven't done any illegal things, but that doesn't mean I want the NSA to know everything about me. 

[laxer]

Everything is tracked....

 

At the very least my ISP has everything I have been looking at...

 

So yes spying is going on, not by a human but a system.

 

I am not concerned about it though.

[ciprian97pop]

I'm getting a litle bit off topic but :

I think that some persons download pirated software for some reasons:

1. They would actually buy that software but they wouldn't pay that much for it. For example I wouldn't pay 30$ for sims 3 and then another 20-35$ per expansion pack 

2. They would pay for that software but they can't get it in stores or they can't pay online

 

If you want to get something cheaper, you can wait to pass 3-4 months then to buy it from second hand but that wouldn't work for a game because after you wait for it to release, I find it verry hard to wait another 3-4 months.

[Chevaishr]

i once googled all the so called key phrases in one search and my internet went out and google didn't work for me for about 5 mins when i rebooted my router. however i have a fan plugged on so that masks the spying   

[Chevaishr]

I'm getting a litle bit off topic but :

I think that some persons download pirated software for some reasons:

1. They would actually buy that software but they wouldn't pay that much for it. For example I wouldn't pay 30$ for sims 3 and then another 20-35$ per expansion pack 

2. They would pay for that software but they can't get it in stores or they can't pay online

 

If you want to get something cheaper, you can wait to pass 3-4 months then to buy it from second hand but that wouldn't work for a game because after you wait for it to release, I find it verry hard to wait another 3-4 months.

i'm number 2 cant get anything here and buying online is out of the question :(

[ciprian97pop]

i'm number 2 cant get anything here and buying online is out of the question :(

This is the problem that I have too

[MrMurphysLaw]

i deactivated my facebook is that a serious measure?

[Hans Christian | Teri]

I'm all for privacy, freedom and all that, but wow you all sound like you have something to hide.  :wacko:

[Fetzie]

Pretty sure at least 10% of this forum goes and pirates software. That alone is enough to be scared when the govt is looking through your stuff.

 

Speak of the devil: this post just came up on the forum front page. What if you were for it and posted your support through your email?

Streaming of any content isn't illegal where I live

 

I use the encrypted google search.

[Talsyrius]

I wouldn't be surprised if virtually everything is monitored, but I am not very concerned for my self as I don't really have anything to hide... But it all comes down to the old problem with "Who watches the watchmen?" Again I must say I am happy that I live in sweden and not in murica

[T.Vengeance]

Streaming of any content isn't illegal where I live

 

I use the encrypted google search.

It's always illegal. Even Sweden/Switzerland has a copyright law. It's just how much it's enforced. Here in Canada, I've never received one email nor have I heard from anyone who has from their ISP telling me they'll cut my internet if I don't stop. But in the US there are tons of horror stories like that.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada#Criticism

[Fetzie]

It's always illegal. Even Sweden/Switzerland has a copyright law. It's just how much it's enforced. Here in Canada, I've never received one email nor have I heard from anyone who has from their ISP telling me they'll cut my internet if I don't stop. But in the US there are tons of horror stories like that.

 

Downloading is technically illegal, but not pursued. Streaming is not illegal as it doesn't leave a permanent copy on a hard-drive.

[NJM1112]

Let me ask you this. Since you've done nothing bad and you're fine with the govt collecting info on you. how about i come over to your house and snoop through your belongings and credit records and publish them to the web just to see what you've been doing. Even though you've done nothing wrong.

 

[Talsyrius]

Downloading is technically illegal, but not pursued. Streaming is not illegal as it doesn't leave a permanent copy on a hard-drive.

If my hard drive is prone to crashing, does that count as not being permanent? :D

[T.Vengeance]

Downloading is technically illegal, but not pursued. Streaming is not illegal as it doesn't leave a permanent copy on a hard-drive.

That doesn't even make sense? The illegality of pirating via downloading is that you didn't pay for the medium which you are getting, not that you have a copy of it (though that maybe be the same case). Therefore streaming would be the exact same thing.

[Fetzie]

That doesn't even make sense? The illegality of pirating via downloading is that you didn't pay for the medium which you are getting, not that you have a copy of it (though that maybe be the same case). Therefore streaming would be the exact same thing.

 

Hey, I didn't write the law

[James_McKeane]

You should be a litle bit more self confident because if you haven't done anything bad, you don't have to worry about conspirations and being watched, even if these two are some real threats that you need to consider

 

This is an incredibly childish belief, but whatever.

 

If someone wants your data, they're probably going to get it. That shipped sailed a long time ago. That being said, I find the whole "privacy is dead" arguments a useful go-to for those who lack the intellectual heft to understand what are basic tenants of computer technology and even simpler legal concepts. No one wants to think about what terrible things could happen to them, so they blithely satiate themselves under a mask of ignorance and brush the issue aside. I myself live comfortable knowing that mass surveillance programs like PRISM will fail. They always fail.

[T.Vengeance]

This is an incredibly childish belief, but whatever.

 

If someone wants your data, they're probably going to get it. That shipped sailed a long time ago. That being said, I find the whole "privacy is dead" arguments a useful go-to for those who lack the intellectual heft to understand what are basic tenants of computer technology and even simpler legal concepts. No one wants to think about what terrible things could happen to them, so they blithely satiate themselves under a mask of ignorance and brush the issue aside. I myself live comfortable knowing that mass surveillance programs like PRISM will fail. They always fail.

I'm afraid that both outcomes are equally as likely to happen. Just imagine. Day after day we (and by we, i mean we the people) knowingly tweet what we're eating at where we are. If society has grown more towards letting out what used to be private, public, then the govt will just use it to their advantage. I don't see either side winning since in my point of view, it's pretty much 50/50. I see more of a compromise that might happen. 

[NJM1112]

I'm afraid that both outcomes are equally as likely to happen. Just imagine. Day after day we (and by we, i mean we the people) knowingly tweet what we're eating at where we are. If society has grown more towards letting out what used to be private, public, then the govt will just use it to their advantage. I don't see either side winning since in my point of view, it's pretty much 50/50. I see more of a compromise that might happen. 

Billy makes that quite clear in this video. What can you learn about him by only following his phone numbers and calls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o2djiZOxyA

[Night]

I think ive always been a tin foil hat kind of person, Im not worried about it since I figure ive been spied on since I was a kid. Its not like im this number one priority target but I think its wrong that the worlds governments are doing this.