First PC Build - Budget build

[Slingy17]

Hello, yes this is my first post, I've put this around Reddit and Steam Discussions, but I figured, hell, it ain't gonna hurt to ask more people

SO

this is actually a copy of my post from Reddit cause im lazy

 

**What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.**

 

Gaming on a budget

 

**If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, FPS, game settings)**

 

Nothing fancy, like I said it's on a budget, all I want is something better than my current craptop, which can barely run CS:GO at lowest settings

 

**What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?**

 

$400-500 

 

**In what country are you purchasing your parts?**

 

Canada

 

**Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please).**

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ NCIX) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($69.99 @ NCIX) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($69.99 @ NCIX) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ NCIX) 

Total: $469.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 20:53 EDT-0400

 

I have chosen them all from NCIX because, purchasing from 3 or 4 different places is complicated and according to PartPicker saves me ~$20. When I went to all these sites myself and added it all up it was $500+ with shipping and all that fun stuff. NCIX has free ground shipping, and it's way easier to purchase everything from one place

 

**Provide any additional details you wish below.**

My plan was to do this build, and in the future when I have more money, purchase a 270x or 280x to add on to that

 

Somebody told me:

with the apu there is no cpu upgrades that are viable

and the apu cpu will be limiting gpus beyond a r9 270

 

id upgrade to an i5 non s (low performance) for better gaming

the i5 with an r9 gpu will run circles around anything the apu can do with a dedicated card

 

 

 

So what are your opinions on that?

 

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask and I will answer them. This is my first build and I only know so much about computers, so any and all advice is very much appreciated

[tcolecruz]

I'm about to build my first PC as well. Here's how I'd allocate your money. Get some G-Skill value RAM, and you can save money there. Get a less expensive processor and save up a little more cash for a 750ti. It will make games run so much better than an APU.

[dark_xzyph3r]

What you can do is get an AMD 6350 as your cpu (Only $100 right now) and use a 750 ti as your GPU and that will run circles around any APU

[cheeze_tartz]

I would get something like an FX-6300 and a 750ti.

[dark_xzyph3r]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YyrPdC

 

That should work for you 

[Slingy17]

That's all fine and dandy, but my current problem is my budget. If I purchase, say, a 6350 and a 750 ti that will be over my budget, even though better performance. The reason I am getting an APU is so that I can stay within my budget, game on lower settings, and when I have more money to play with purchase an R9 270 or 280x for it to improve performance. I'm not a hardcore gamer, I don't require anything more than constant above 30FPS on reasonable settings, and pretty much anything is better than what I'm using at the moment

[Goldensapling]

That's actually not a bad APU, as long as you dont' mind 720p 

I would recommend the 860k and a R9 280 though.

 

[dark_xzyph3r]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YyrPdC

 

That should work for you 

 

That will run circles around APU's 

[Goldensapling]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YyrPdC

 

That should work for you 

6300 has lower single-core performance than a 860k, FX line is productivity bb

[dark_xzyph3r]

That's actually not a bad APU, as long as you dont' mind 720p 

I would recommend the 860k and a R9 280 though.

 

16 GHz ram?!?!?! Thats GREAT!!

[Slingy17]

That's actually not a bad APU, as long as you dont' mind 720p 

 

I've seen that video, and 720p is aboslutely ok with me, like i said it's way better than what I'm playing on right now, I wouldn't mind it one bit

[Goldensapling]

16 GHz ram?!?!?! Thats GREAT!!

LOL gg Jay

[dark_xzyph3r]

6300 has lower single-core performance than a 860k, FX line is productivity bb

 

CSGO Uses Multi-Core rendering

[Goldensapling]

I see everyone recommending the FX 6300, but it's the poo poo. 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3hN9YJ Same budget, better performance, gg atheists

[Goldensapling]

CSGO Uses Multi-Core rendering

860k has 4 cores, 6300 has 6 cores. CSGO is easy enough to run that a $50 CPU could run it though 

[niofalpha]

What you can do is get an AMD 6350 as your cpu (Only $100 right now) and use a 750 ti as your GPU and that will run circles around any APU

This is false, the APU will out perform the 6350 in most games CSGO is one of the few examples where this isn't the case (But rather somewhat even), and Graphics wise the 750 Ti is outperformed by the 260 which iirc is what the APU has.

 

@OP, I would get an i5 and save up for a better GPU latter, for more performance in everything.

[Slingy17]

Also, I must say I'm impressed with the speed of replies on this site, and I already really like this site

 

Also, I mentioned CSGO because that's all I play right now due to the lack of performance on my craptop

 

I would like to play more graphic intensive games, I purchased Saints Row 2-4 and can't even run them 

[dark_xzyph3r]

860k has 4 cores, 6300 has 6 cores. CSGO is easy enough to run that a $50 could run it though 

 

Well I don't really know about Gaming CPU's I use my computer as a workstation so I choose to use the FX CPU's Thats why I recommended it to him. Also you can OC them to about 5 GHz on an AIO WC

[Slingy17]

 

@OP, I would get an i5 and save up for a better GPU latter, for more performance in everything.

 

So if I purchased an i5 instead of the APU, what would be the case with gaming without a GPU? It wouldn't work very well I assume?

[thekeemo]

your best option is to just pricematch everything at memory express

[thekeemo]

So if I purchased an i5 instead of the APU, what would be the case with gaming without a GPU? It wouldn't work very well I assume?

youtube would be the most intensive thing you can do

[Slingy17]

your best option is to just pricematch everything at memory express

 

NCIX has pricematch and free ground shipping ^^

 

 

And yeah, that's my reason for purchasing an APU, is so that I can game lower settings at first and ramp it up later when I have more money to play with. People always try to tell me to purchase something else, but it costs me too much money at first. I don't require amazing performance, just so long as it can run decently (30+FPS)

[niofalpha]

So if I purchased an i5 instead of the APU, what would be the case with gaming without a GPU? It wouldn't work very well I assume?

It would work *OK* in most games, CSGO it would easily play at Medium 60 FPS.

 

iirc Arma 3 runs *OK* with a good CPU on the iGPU, don't know about other games tho.

 

If I where you I would get this save up for a 280/970.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($173.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($41.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.49 @ OutletPC)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.00 @ Newegg)

Other: /r/MicrosoftSoftwareSwap Windows 8.1 License ($20.00)

Total: $416.40

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 21:19 EDT-0400

[Rampiks]

A thumb rule is that the GPU should take up 25-30% of the total budget

[Goldensapling]

Well I don't really know about Gaming CPU's I use my computer as a workstation so I choose to use the FX CPU's Thats why I recommended it to him. Also you can OC them to about 5 GHz on an AIO WC

A decent AIO is like $80, which is better spent on a better CPU. I use mine as a workstation as well, hence my 8320, but he said it's just for gaming, so 860k