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This is my friends build, trying to get some info on it before I got to his house to fix it. This is what I know so far...

 

BIOS IS FULLY UPDATED

 

DRIVERS ARE UPDATED

 

When he sets his overclock parameters, confirms them, and leaves BIOS he says he gets an infinite loop of the computer restarting with a black screen.

 

When he powers off his computer, and turns it back on during this process, he gets an message similar to this...

 

NOT AN ACTUAL SCREENSHOT OF HIS COMPUTER, FOUND ON THE INTERNET TO SHOW LIKENESS TO WHAT HE SEES!

 

11144690_1058580930836539_485337891_o.jp

 

I kinda wonder if it is the Motherboard.

 

Is there something special with this motherboard that needs to be done to enable overclocking?

 

I know Asus has default (most of the time) overclocking readily enabled on their motherboards. (Mine was default ready.)

 

Anyway, any ideas?

 

The parameters for overclocking he tried was v1.2 at 4.6GHz... When I get there tomorrow to help him out, I will try higher voltages, do not recommend this plz...

 

If anyone knows what OTHER problem could be going on, please help us out. Thank you.

 

 

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You might want to clear the CMOS (to set everything to default and start again).

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This is my friends build, trying to get some info on it before I got to his house to fix it. This is what I know so far...

 

BIOS IS FULLY UPDATED

 

DRIVERS ARE UPDATED

 

When he sets his overclock parameters, confirms them, and leaves BIOS he says he gets an infinite loop of the computer restarting with a black screen.

 

When he powers off his computer, and turns it back on during this process, he gets an message similar to this...

 

NOT AN ACTUAL SCREENSHOT OF HIS COMPUTER, FOUND ON THE INTERNET TO SHOW LIKENESS TO WHAT HE SEES!

 

-snip-

 

I kinda wonder if it is the Motherboard.

 

Is there something special with this motherboard that needs to be done to enable overclocking?

 

I know Asus has default (most of the time) overclocking readily enabled on their motherboards. (Mine was default ready.)

 

Anyway, any ideas?

 

The parameters for overclocking he tried was v1.2 at 4.6GHz... When I get there tomorrow to help him out, I will try higher voltages, do not recommend this plz...

 

If anyone knows what OTHER problem could be going on, please help us out. Thank you.

If its in a infinite loop when trying to boot into windows. It needs more voltage for the CPU as its crashing on start up which is causing the looping.

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This is my friends build, trying to get some info on it before I got to his house to fix it. This is what I know so far...

 

BIOS IS FULLY UPDATED

 

DRIVERS ARE UPDATED

 

When he sets his overclock parameters, confirms them, and leaves BIOS he says he gets an infinite loop of the computer restarting with a black screen.

 

When he powers off his computer, and turns it back on during this process, he gets an message similar to this...

 

NOT AN ACTUAL SCREENSHOT OF HIS COMPUTER, FOUND ON THE INTERNET TO SHOW LIKENESS TO WHAT HE SEES!

 

11144690_1058580930836539_485337891_o.jp

 

I kinda wonder if it is the Motherboard.

 

Is there something special with this motherboard that needs to be done to enable overclocking?

 

I know Asus has default (most of the time) overclocking readily enabled on their motherboards. (Mine was default ready.)

 

Anyway, any ideas?

 

The parameters for overclocking he tried was v1.2 at 4.6GHz... When I get there tomorrow to help him out, I will try higher voltages, do not recommend this plz...

 

If anyone knows what OTHER problem could be going on, please help us out. Thank you.

parts are never guaranteed to overclock well. 4.6ghz is a pretty optimistic overclock depending on the CPU used. start with an overclock that's 200mhz above stock and go from there, 100mhz at a time.

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parts are never guaranteed to overclock well. 4.6ghz is a pretty optimistic overclock depending on the CPU used. start with an overclock that's 200mhz above stock and go from there, 100mhz at a time.

The 4790K is 4.0GHz base and 4.4GHz boost.

 

4.6GHz isn't optimistic at all really.

 

@vSyNd1c4t3 1.2V though is near the stock value i think. It should do 1.25V-1.3V should be dandy at 4.6GHz. 

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You might want to clear the CMOS (to set everything to default and start again).

 

Yea, I will be trying this when I get there. Thank you for the look and reply.

 

If its in a infinite loop when trying to boot into windows. It needs more voltage for the CPU as its crashing on start up which is causing the looping.

 

Thanks for the input, I will be trying this when I get there, I kinda am just trying to eliminate any other problems it may be other than this, as when I get there I will be pumping it with v1.3 and seeing what we can do.

 

parts are never guaranteed to overclock well. 4.6ghz is a pretty optimistic overclock depending on the CPU used. start with an overclock that's 200mhz above stock and go from there, 100mhz at a time.

 

The CPU used is listed, please read full post and find out all info next time plz.

 

I understand this, I was able to do those parameters with my CPU, so I figured his could too. (I understand Silicon Lottery.) So yea, that could be the case here, so I understand your response, and plan on doing this when I personally get there.

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Its your friend's build right?

 

That means he supposedly knows how to overclock right?

 

So why are you helping him and asking on his behalf?

 

Yes, it's my friends build.

 

He is still newer to overclocking, so I am helping him out.

 

He works all day, I have more time than he does and more experience with understanding and talking with a community to figure out the real problem.

 

Honestly though, none of this info helps solve the problem. And the questions seem picky and snarky. Please try to be more helpful next time you post.

 

 

The 4790K is 4.0GHz base and 4.4GHz boost.

 

4.6GHz isn't optimistic at all really.

 

@vSyNd1c4t3 1.2V though is near the stock value i think. It should do 1.25V-1.3V should be dandy at 4.6GHz. 

 

I agree, it wasn't optimistic. I plan on bumping the voltage to whatever it may need when I get there. Cross my fingers I don't have to tell my friend he lost the Silicon Lottery... xD

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Love it when people ask for help and get criticized for helping others... Aaaaaanyways

I've owned many a Megatrend ASUS board and infinite boot loops have only ever happened in these cases:

1) RAM was bad, had to be RMA'd

2) RAM wasn't on the QVL, no OC failed message, just triggered loop with no POST.

The OC failed message appearing once and forcing into BIOS is normal operating procedure for a failed OC in some aspect. The problem is that it does not indicate exactly what went wrong.

In this particular case I would guess that your friend hasn't enabled XMP for the RAM or it isn't being supplied enough voltage. 1.2v for 4.6 isn't unheard of, although I would expect most samples to need at least 1.24-1.275v, this may just as easily be the cause.

On the Z97 Sabertooth I worked on OC failed would only trigger after a BSOD, or if I tried an obscene setting like 2600MHz on a 2400MHz kit, in that particular case it never made it to the OS, just straight to OC failed and the BIOS, which is my reasoning for thinking something is up with the RAM. Even if a CPU isn't stable at a certain voltage it usually makes it to the OS and only BSOD's out once load is applied. AFAIK the OC failed message is a Pre-POST fail, ie. Before the OS even gets a chance to load.

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Love it when people ask for help and get criticized for helping others... Aaaaaanyways

I've owned many a Megatrend ASUS board and infinite boot loops have only ever happened in these cases:

1) RAM was bad, had to be RMA'd

2) RAM wasn't on the QVL, no OC failed message, just triggered loop with no POST.

The OC failed message appearing once and forcing into BIOS is normal operating procedure for a failed OC in some aspect. The problem is that it does not indicate exactly what went wrong.

In this particular case I would guess that your friend hasn't enabled XMP for the RAM or it isn't being supplied enough voltage. 1.2v for 4.6 isn't unheard of, although I would expect most samples to need at least 1.24-1.275v, this may just as easily be the cause.

On the Z97 Sabertooth I worked on OC failed would only trigger after a BSOD, or if I tried an obscene setting like 2600MHz on a 2400MHz kit, in that particular case it never made it to the OS, just straight to OC failed and the BIOS, which is my reasoning for thinking something is up with the RAM. Even if a CPU isn't stable at a certain voltage it usually makes it to the OS and only BSOD's out once load is applied. AFAIK the OC failed message is a Pre-POST fail, ie. Before the OS even gets a chance to load.

 

Hoping the ram isnt bad, waiting on RMAs.... zzzzz

 

as far as QVL, does this look ok?

 

CMZ16GX3M2A1866C10 (ver5.29), but the number on my ram is CMD16GX3M2A1866C10 (ver4.29)

 

sorry, but i made a mistake on the overclock parameters. he tried it with 4.4GHz at v1.2, which I figured it could do, considering its stock voltage and stock overclock (turbo)

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