Difference between H97 and Z97?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Is it only overclocking capabalities?

[lani100]

Is it only overclocking capabalities?

Yes and pci speeds.

[GarnetDevil]

All H97 boards don't support SLI due to PCI-E speed, but mid-to-high end Z97 boards do

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

All H97 boards don't support SLI due to PCI-E speed, but mid-to-high end Z97 boards do

 

Alright so if I'm building a server with a super low end GPU I should stick to H97?

[GarnetDevil]

Alright so if I'm building a server with a super low end GPU I should stick to H97?

Are you going to use the Xeon E3? If yes then go with B85, they are considerably cheaper than H97 (except gaming B85 mobo)

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Are you going to use the Xeon E3? If yes then go with B85, they are considerably cheaper than H97 (except gaming B85 mobo)

 

Yeah I am. So basically when I'm checking for a MOBO for my CPU all that really matters is the socket, and not the actual chipset for contability. The chipset will only support more features like SLI, overcloocking?

[Oshino Shinobu]

Yeah I am. So basically when I'm checking for a MOBO for my CPU all that really matters is the socket, and not the actual chipset for contability. The chipset will only support more features like SLI, overcloocking?

Yep, pretty much. Some will have newer storage solutions, but nothing that's particularly practical for a sever. 

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Yep, pretty much. Some will have newer storage solutions, but nothing that's particularly practical for a sever. 

 

Alright, thanks.

[MuffinTopMike]

I built a server with a Xeon and used a Z97 board, but a good B85 or H97 board would work well.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

I built a server with a Xeon and used a Z97 board, but a good B85 or H97 board would work well.

 

I suppose you used a E3 Xeon?

[GarnetDevil]

I suppose you used a E3 Xeon?

Yes, here's more info if you need

 

E3 = Socket 1150

E5v2 and E7v2 = 2011

E5v3= 2011-3

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Yes, here's more info if you need

 

E3 = Socket 1150

E5v2 and E7v2 = 2011

E5v3= 2011-3

 

God sometimes the naming is so complicated for no reason, eh. I will just get a E3 I guess, should be nuff.

[Sintezza]

I will also add something to this.

 

A Xeon E3-1230V3 will work on a B85 board out of the box. Since this is basicly a haswell 1.0 chip.

A Xeon E3-1231V3 (so everything with a 1 at the end), will "probably" not work out of the box on a B85 board.

Because these cpu´s are basicly haswell 2.0 chips. So those boards need a bios update to support these cpu´s.

 

I would personaly recommend a Xeon 1231-V3 with a H97 board.

Haswell refresh cpu´s  or haswell 2.0 like i wanne call them, dont work out of the box with most 8 series boards.

They all need a bios update in most situations.

[GarnetDevil]

I will also add something to this.

 

A Xeon E3-1230V3 will work on a B85 board out of the box. Since this is basicly a haswell 1.0 chip.

A Xeon E3-1231V3 (so everything with a 1 at the end), will "probably" not work out of the box on a B85 board.

Because these cpu´s are basicly haswell 2.0 chips. So those boards need a bios update to support these cpu´s.

 

I would personaly recommend a Xeon 1231-V3 with a H97 board.

Haswell refresh cpu´s  or haswell 2.0 like i wanne call them, dont work out of the box with most 8 series boards.

They all need a bios update in most situations.

Just buy newly released B85, they will all come with latest BIOS version that supports Haswell Refresh

 

Hell, when i bought my B85, it already has overclocking options, its update log has hinted future support for HR as well

[MuffinTopMike]

I suppose you used a E3 Xeon?

Yes, a Xeon 1225 v3 to be exact. Any of the Xeon E3 series should work fine with normal desktop chipsets like Z97, H97 and B85. Also if the end of the Xeon model number ends with a 5 (for example Xeon 1225) it means it has integrated graphics. If it doesn't end in a 5 (for example Xeon 1230) then it doesn't have integrated graphics and you will need a graphics card.

[Sintezza]

Just buy newly released B85, they will all come with latest BIOS version that supports Haswell Refresh

 

Hell, when i bought my B85, it already has overclocking options, its update log has hinted future support for HR as well

 

Well, how do you know that you exaly buy a newly released B85 board?

Or how do you know, that the exaly board thats sended to you, has had a bios update in the factory?

 

You never know this. So its just a gamble.

re-sellers, can send you a board, that they had in stock for more then a year.

And at that point you will basicly get stuck, with a mobo + cpu combination that not works out of the box.

 

As far as i know, new 8 serie boards, are not made anymore.

So why would you take the risk if you are going with a haswell refresh chip?

Because a H97 board will work guaranteed!

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Yes, a Xeon 1225 v3 to be exact. Any of the Xeon E3 series should work fine with normal desktop chipsets like Z97, H97 and B85. Also if the end of the Xeon model number ends with a 5 (for example Xeon 1225) it means it has integrated graphics. If it doesn't end in a 5 (for example Xeon 1230) then it doesn't have integrated graphics and you will need a graphics card.

 

 

Well, how do you know that you exaly buy a newly released B85 board?

Or how do you know, that the exaly board thats sended to you, has had a bios update in the factory?

 

You never know this. So its just a gamble.

re-sellers, can send you a board, that they had in stock for more then a year.

And at that point you will basicly get stuck, with a mobo + cpu combination that not works out of the box.

 

As far as i know, new 8 serie boards, are not made anymore.

So why would you take the risk if you are going with a haswell refresh chip?

Because a H97 board will work guaranteed!

Yeah going with the Xeon 1231 V3 with this board and a cheapo 30-50$ GPU.

 

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1201&item_id=071445

[Sintezza]

 

Yeah going with the Xeon 1231 V3 with this board and a cheapo 30-50$ GPU.

 

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1201&item_id=071445

 

 

Thats a H97 board, so should be totaly fine

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Thats a H97 board, so should be totaly fine

 

Yep,