FX8 + 780=4K?

[EntAsia]

Hi, after asking you guys to build me a pc I found that my uncle's old desktop cpu and mobo still works so I used it instead And decided to use the money on a 4k monitor Will a single 780 or 970 or r9 290x bottleneck the 8350 @ 4.5 GHz for 4k? Monitor Acer B326HK The only game I buy are Far Cry series Batman series and some other titles while the rest are free to play : ) 

[ZetZet]

yes.

[Fate]

Not at 4k no (at 1080p it will), but a single 780/970/290x isn't going to run most newer AAA titles like FC4 above medium (maybe high without any AA) at 60fps.

Older games, racing games, Arma series, MMO's, MOBA's, CS:GO, etc will all run great.

[lani100]

Yes it will bottleneck also a single high end card won't be enough for 4k in most titles.

[Fate]

yes.

 

Yes it will bottleneck also a single high end card won't be enough for 4k in most titles.

pls http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html

[ZetZet]

pls http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html

minimum frames are disgusting. but i get your point. still amd is a dead platform so...

[lani100]

pls http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html

Again another bullshit comparison, Dude I've been there done that A 8350 can't even keep up with highend 1080p cards.

And they only talk about the minimum frames.

[Fate]

minimum frames are disgusting. but i get your point. still amd is a dead platform so...

Very similar compared to 4770k, I still wouldn't recommend an 8350 but since he already has it may as well show the benchmarks, right?

Again another bullshit comparison, Dude I've been there done that A 8350 can't even keep up with highend 1080p cards.

How is it bullshit? 1080p=/=4k. If something bottlenecks at 1080p, it doesn't necessarily mean it will bottleneck at 4k. They're two different animals.

[EntAsia]

Not at 4k no (at 1080p it will), but a single 780/970/290x isn't going to run most newer AAA titles like FC4 above medium (maybe high without any AA) at 60fps.

Older games, racing games, Arma series, MMO's, MOBA's, CS:GO, etc will all run great.

i always turn AA or that FXA thingy off : )

[lani100]

Very similar compared to 4770k, I still wouldn't recommend an 8350 but since he already has it may as well show the benchmarks, right?

How is it bullshit? 1080p=/=4k. If something bottlenecks at 1080p, it doesn't necessarily mean it will bottleneck at 4k. They're two different animals.

It will do it at 4k but even harder. Have you take a good look at AMD's technology? it's outdated the 8350 is almost 3 years old now it just won't cut it anymore these days.

[Fate]

It will do it at 4k but even harder. Have you take a good look at AMD's technology? it's outdated the 8350 is almost 3 years old now it just won't cut it anymore these days.

Dude, I know the 8350 is a shit option right now, have you not seen any of my other posts in other threads? Anyways, the guy already has the 8350.

At higher resolutions the CPU starts to become irrelevant. 

[SuperPug]

pls http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html

 

IMO those results are so close that the only reasonable conclusion seems that at 4K the GPU's are the bottleneck and hence the performance difference between the cpu's becomes irrelevant. So i dont think its a very valid comparison.

 

Interesting tho...

[lani100]

Dude, I know the 8350 is a shit option right now, have you not seen any of my other posts in other threads? Anyways, the guy already has the 8350.

At higher resolutions the CPU starts to become irrelevant. 

No I'm not going to wast my time reading other posts about benchmarks and other bullshit about your opinon on AMD. 

It's just a better option for him to not go with a 4k screen or upgrade first.

[Fate]

No I'm not going to wast my time reading other posts about benchmarks and other bullshit about your opinon on AMD. 

It's just a better option for him to not go with a 4k screen or upgrade first.

He already has an 8350 and 4k display, I showed you the benchmarks where even with two 980's at 4k it doesn't bottleneck. If you can find me other benchmarks, that's great, but right now you're not adding anything valuable to the discussion.

Stop being an Intel fanboy. I know the 8350 bottlenecks at 1080p. I know the 8350 is bad. I know this. Stop trying to 'convert' me.

4k is not 1080p.

[Godlygamer23]

i always turn AA or that FXA thingy off : )

It's FXAA. It stands for Fast Approximate Anti-Aliasing.

[lani100]

He already has an 8350 and 4k display, I showed you the benchmarks where even with two 980's at 4k it doesn't bottleneck. If you can find me other benchmarks, that's great, but right now you're not adding anything valuable to the discussion.

Stop being an Intel fanboy. I know the 8350 bottlenecks at 1080p. I know the 8350 is bad. I know this. Stop trying to 'convert' me.

4k is not 1080p.

He hasn't bought the monitor yet from what I can read. I'm not going to search for benchmarks since they are completely useless I already said that's better to not go for 4k or upgrade.

I'm trying to convert anyone and I'm not an fanboy AMD is just dead and will never catch up with intel. I used a 8350 myself on 1080p and 4k with multiple cards so I know this from personal experiences.

[Sandvich]

The 8350 will bottleneck at 1080p and on cpu demanding games on 4k. A single 290 or 970 will not play games like farcry 4, or crysis 3 on 60fps.

[sgloux3470]

Yes it will bottleneck also a single high end card won't be enough for 4k in most titles.

Yes it will bottleneck also a single high end card won't be enough for 4k in most titles.

Depends, actually. If you're willing to fine tune graphical settings a bit. Gsync w/40ish FPS is also an option.

I've done a few tests and aside from brand new demanding games you can get pretty good frames. (I tested with DSR, so actual 4K might be a little more demanding.). For example on my 980 I had max Payne 3 running 60 FPS with ultra details, advanced warfare at all ultra details, Crysis 3 at a mixture of med/very high etc.

I'll do a more comprehensive overview of the experience once I get my 4K monitor. I think it might be useful to people.

[SoftenButterCream]

pls http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html

I don't understand this benchmark. Since 980 SLI won't bottleneck it at 4k, then won't a single 980 bottleneck it at 4k, and giving it lower frames, or does it give it even more frames? This is why i still rock my 720p monitor. New tech is so confusing nowdays lmao.

[SoftenButterCream]

Depends, actually. If you're willing to fine tune graphical settings a bit. Gsync w/40ish FPS is also an option.

I've done a few tests and aside from brand new demanding games you can get pretty good frames. (I tested with DSR, so actual 4K might be a little more demanding.). For example on my 980 I had max Payne 3 running 60 FPS with ultra details, advanced warfare at all ultra details, Crysis 3 at a mixture of med/very high etc.

I'll do a more comprehensive overview of the experience once I get my 4K monitor. I think it might be useful to people.

You should record some videos with the fraps on and off. OR do a review. If you do you should tag me bruh  . I might convert to 4k or a widescreen once I get my new build.

[zappian]

a 8350 will bottleneck a 780 at 1080p.

 

That cpu is horrible for high end cards.

 

In fact in many modern games a hashwell i3 is faster than the 8320/50 as you can see on this website.

 

http://i3wins.eu5.org/

[EntAsia]

He already has an 8350 and 4k display, I showed you the benchmarks where even with two 980's at 4k it doesn't bottleneck. If you can find me other benchmarks, that's great, but right now you're not adding anything valuable to the discussion.

Stop being an Intel fanboy. I know the 8350 bottlenecks at 1080p. I know the 8350 is bad. I know this. Stop trying to 'convert' me.

4k is not 1080p.

 

He hasn't bought the monitor yet from what I can read. I'm not going to search for benchmarks since they are completely useless I already said that's better to not go for 4k or upgrade.

I'm trying to convert anyone and I'm not an fanboy AMD is just dead and will never catch up with intel. I used a 8350 myself on 1080p and 4k with multiple cards so I know this from personal experiences.

i have monitor already

[SoftenButterCream]

a 8350 will bottleneck a 780 at 1080p.

 

That cpu is horrible for high end cards.

 

In fact in many modern games a hashwell i3 is faster than the 8320/50 as you can see on this website.

 

http://i3wins.eu5.org/

HE IS ASKING ABOUT 4K FOR FUCKS SAKE

[Fate]

I don't understand this benchmark. Since 980 SLI won't bottleneck it at 4k, then won't a single 980 bottleneck it at 4k, and giving it lower frames, or does it give it even more frames? This is why i still rock my 720p monitor. New tech is so confusing nowdays lmao.

Assuming perfect scaling, a single 980 will give about half the performance of two 980's (assuming no CPU bottleneck with two 980's). 

If something doesn't bottleneck two 980's it won't bottleneck a single 980, assuming the same resolution and settings.

At higher resolutions, the bottleneck starts to move to the GPU(s). 

At lower resolutions, CPU bottlenecks become more prominent.

 

 

Anyways, I'm tired of people on this forum calling me an Intel fanboy one day, and an AMD fanboy another for linking benchmarks.

i have monitor already

Do you have a GPU already?

[SoftenButterCream]

Assuming perfect scaling, a single 980 will give about half the performance of two 980's (assuming no CPU bottleneck with two 980's). 

If something doesn't bottleneck two 980's it won't bottleneck a single 980, assuming the same resolution and settings.

At higher resolutions, the bottleneck starts to move to the GPU(s). 

At lower resolutions, CPU bottlenecks become more prominent.

 

 

Anyways, I'm tired of people on this forum calling me an Intel fanboy one day, and an AMD fanboy another for linking benchmarks.

Do you have a GPU already?

So that means more FPS? I'm a bit slow today lol. But seriously, both AMD and Intel exist in the market for a reason. Both targets different markets in the CPU world.