Final First Build Post

[Tomographic]

I'm hoping this will be the last post I make before I order the parts for my new build. Here's what I have so far: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Tomographic/saved/nW9Ff7

My budget was initially £1000 (approx $1500) but I have gone over budget to make extra room for some of the components due to recommendation. I was suggested to use the i7 4790k in a previous post but I'm not entirely sure I need it. I originally had the 4770k selected so what are your thoughts?

I originally included windows 8.1 in the parts list but considering that the NZXT H440 case does not have drive bays I thought it would be unnecessary to order windows 8.1 as a hard copy. Am I right in doing so? I believe I can get a key digitally and install windows via USB, correct?

My aim for this build is to get 1080p/ 1440p (on some games) with high frame rates. I also will be using this PC for editing via Photoshop for my soon to be freelance graphic design business as well as video editing in the near future which explains the 16GB RAM.

So, what do you think? Again this is my first time build so I have done a tonne of research to get to this point, but again I would like to save where I can so if you have any recommendations as to what processor in particular would be my best option and anything else you could suggest in helping me achieve what I want out of this PC yet still sticking as close to my original budget of £1000 as possible.

As for peripherals I have purchased my monitor, but as for keyboard and mouse I would like to see what you guys recommend. For reference, I like Corsair products so the M65 mouse for example appeals to me. I appreciate that I'm asking a lot in this post but I know you are a community that thrives off this stuff so your help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance everyone!

[Rebelattack]

4790k is just a 4770k where they fixed something with it.

 

Yes you can install windows via a USB with a 8.1 ISO, videos on this online.

 

All I would have done is either get a 500-550W PSU or upgrade to a 750W. 650 might just not be enough for SLI and is overkill for a single GPU solution, but that is just a personal thing.

[Guest]

The i7 4770K is slightly slower out of the box than the i7 4790K. The 4770K is 3.5GHz and the 4790K is 4GHz.

 

The price difference is only £6. I would stick with the i7 4790K just because of the speed difference.

[Tomographic]

4790k is just a 4770k where they fixed something with it.

 

Yes you can install windows via a USB with a 8.1 ISO, videos on this online.

 

All I would have done is either get a 500-550W PSU or upgrade to a 750W. 650 might just not be enough for SLI and is overkill for a single GPU solution, but that is just a personal thing.

Ok, In my last post you stated

4790k is just a 4770k where they fixed something with it.

 

Yes you can install windows via a USB with a 8.1 ISO, videos on this online.

 

All I would have done is either get a 500-550W PSU or upgrade to a 750W. 650 might just not be enough for SLI and is overkill for a single GPU solution, but that is just a personal thing.

Ok, in my last post you questioned why 1333 Mhz why not 1600 or 1866? -What was this referring too?

[Rebelattack]

Ok, In my last post you stated

Ok, in my last post you questioned why 1333 Mhz why not 1600 or 1866? -What was this referring too?

RAM

[Tomographic]

RAM

I've changed the build since then... Is this better? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bvxZjX

[Rebelattack]

I've changed the build since then... Is this better? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bvxZjX

 

I liked the color scheme but yeah this is fine. This would be awesome though: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10fw8 and http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10fb8. One of each and you got that awesome combo or just 2 of one colour because the slots resemble the best setup for dual channel memory. So you could get like 2 white and put them in the white slots , although probably the best slots are the black ones, but that is in the manual.

[Tomographic]

I liked the color scheme but yeah this is fine. This would be awesome though: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10fw8 and http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx316c10fb8. One of each and you got that awesome combo or just 2 of one colour because the slots resemble the best setup for dual channel memory. So you could get like 2 white and put them in the white slots , although probably the best slots are the black ones, but that is in the manual.

I did that before but someone said mixing the colours of the ram even if they are the same is bad? Is that true?

[Guest]

I did that before but someone said mixing the colours of the ram even if they are the same is bad? Is that true?

Some Ram can be picky. I would say 9/10 times it will work perfectly fine. I have run 2 different brands and speeds of ram in the past in the same pc without issue. 

[Rebelattack]

I did that before but someone said mixing the colours of the ram even if they are the same is bad? Is that true?

 

It is the same build just a different colour on it so no it probably won't might be a slight chance, but as I said for optimized dual channel use you probably have to put it either in the two white or black slots which is in the manual. It is probably the black slots but I can't be sure if you can find this online you can just buy two 2 x 8Gb set of Kingston fury Black series of 1600 Mhz or the 1866 Mhz, the 1866 Mhz ones are actually even cheaper for the white ones and only 50 pence more for the blacks and even though you won't notice it, it doesn't hurt to get higher speed RAM. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10fbk216

[Rebelattack]

Some Ram can be picky. I would say 9/10 times it will work perfectly fine. I have run 2 different brands and speeds of ram in the past in the same pc without issue. 

 

Same brand and same series just different colour so Kingston fury white and kingston fury black same module size and same series. Don't think it can hurt that much.

[Guest]

Same brand and same series just different colour so Kingston fury white and kingston fury black same module size and same series. Don't think it can hurt that much.

I actually specced two different colours of that Kingston Ram in one of the op's other threads. It was somebody else that mentioned the compatibility issue. I agree that there shouldn't be any problem with it.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/287277-my-first-pc-build-your-thoughts/?p=3901686

[Rebelattack]

I actually specced two different colours of that Kingston Ram in one of the op's other threads. It was somebody else that mentioned the compatibility issue. I agree that there shouldn't be any problem with it.

 

Sorry I didn't mean to be aggresive it was more to say that you are talking about different brand RAM but he listed same serie and speed and brand just different colo(u)r heatsink .

[Guest]

Sorry I didn't mean to be aggresive it was more to say that you are talking about different brand RAM but he listed same serie and speed and brand just different colo(u)r heatsink .

It's fine 

[brob]

I did that before but someone said mixing the colours of the ram even if they are the same is bad? Is that true?

 

Not bad but it does have the potential to be problematic. With DDR3-1600 CL 9 the chance of a problem is very low. The chance increases as speeds rise and timings get tighter. The issue revolves around XMP profiles. They are determined by the density of the memory kit. So a 4x kit may well have a different profile than a 2x kit of the same memory modules. At the worst this means that two 2x kits of memory will not be able to run at their advertised speed & timings, (and have to run at a slower speed and/or looser timings), while a single 4x kit of exactly the same modules can.

 

I would suggest a different psu, XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply.

 

You might also want to consider a less expensive cpu cooler. Perhaps an air tower with white fans. I believe Phanteks and Enermax have models.

[Tomographic]

Not bad but it does have the potential to be problematic. With DDR3-1600 CL 9 the chance of a problem is very low. The chance increases as speeds rise and timings get tighter. The issue revolves around XMP profiles. They are determined by the density of the memory kit. So a 4x kit may well have a different profile than a 2x kit of the same memory modules. At the worst this means that two 2x kits of memory will not be able to run at their advertised speed & timings, (and have to run at a slower speed and/or looser timings), while a single 4x kit of exactly the same modules can.

I would suggest a different psu, XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply.

You might also want to consider a less expensive cpu cooler. Perhaps an air tower with white fans. I believe Phanteks and Enermax have models.

Thanks for the power supply suggestion, that actually looks very good. I have already purchased the case. As for the cooling, for me it's a toss up between the Nzxt x61 or the corsair h105. And for RAM I have narrowed it down to 2 options, which would you suggest?

A: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cJv8yc

B: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmy16gx3m2a1600c9

[brob]

Thanks for the power supply suggestion, that actually looks very good. I have already purchased the case. As for the cooling, for me it's a toss up between the Nzxt x61 or the corsair h105. And for RAM I have narrowed it down to 2 options, which would you suggest?

A: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cJv8yc

B: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmy16gx3m2a1600c9

 

Personally I would choose the 2x8GB kit (B) as it puts a touch less stress on the memory controller and leaves room for an upgrade. Although Kingston Fury White Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory would also be a good choice.

 

If the choice is between the H105 and X61, I would go for the X61.