GPU usage (2.0)

[xnoobftw]

Sorry that this is a repost but nobody answered me D: (i kinda need help in figuring out my problem SORRY GUYS! D:) 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/281754-gpu-usage/#entry3825997

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can u post the CPU usage !? 

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And also try the games without MSI afterburner it sometimes interfere with the game cause a huge frame drop that happened with me in AC Unity and some other games that I don't remember but I'm pretty sure MSI was the problem ( I'm not saying that your problem is MSI afterburner but give it a try ) 

 

and Close game rapter  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/244579-stunning-performance-oo/

[xnoobftw]

can u post the CPU usage !? 

I'll do it later! (it never touches 100% heck it doesnt even reach 70%....)

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I'll do it later! (it never touches 100% heck it doesnt even reach 70%....)

 

Then try the MSI thing and I think you already tried to re-install the GPU drivers 

[xnoobftw]

Then try the MSI thing and I think you already tried to re-install the GPU drivers 

Opps nvm! In crysis 3 my CPU usage spikes as follows (with GPU usage spiking as well) it only seems to happen with C3

[D2ultima]

I can 1000000% guarantee that my i7 (which destroys your i5) bottlenecks my system in Crysis 3... so in the state of CRYSIS 3 ALONE it would be a bottleneck. Most other games, not likely a bottleneck.

[xnoobftw]

I can 1000000% guarantee that my i7 (which destroys your i5) bottlenecks my system in Crysis 3... so in the state of CRYSIS 3 ALONE it would be a bottleneck. Most other games, not likely a bottleneck.

i7 destroys i5 in games? I thought the difference btwn like an 4690k and 4790k is 4 threads.... (which is more useful in rendering etc)

[D2ultima]

i7 destroys i5 in games? I thought the difference btwn like an 4690k and 4790k is 4 threads.... (which is more useful in rendering etc)

In games that take advantage of the hyperthread cores, there is no contest. In games that DON'T take advantage of hyperthread cores, at the same speeds they're identical. Crysis 3 uses the cores. His i5 is worse than my i7 (and I believe his is not overclockable). So yes, in Crysis 3, my i7 obliterates his i5.  Crysis 3 will bottleneck with my CPU on my setup. He has an arguably equal GPU (give or take with overclocking) and a much weaker CPU as far as Crysis 3 is concerned.

[Glenwing]

In games that take advantage of the hyperthread cores, there is no contest. In games that DON'T take advantage of hyperthread cores, at the same speeds they're identical. Crysis 3 uses the cores. His i5 is worse than my i7 (and I believe his is not overclockable). So yes, in Crysis 3, my i7 obliterates his i5.  Crysis 3 will bottleneck with my CPU on my setup. He has an arguably equal GPU (give or take with overclocking) and a much weaker CPU as far as Crysis 3 is concerned.

 

I don't know if I buy the CPU bottleneck story here.  I tested Crysis 3 with an overclocked GTX 780 Ti and even when I benchmarked at 720p with AA off to reduce GPU load as much as possible with a Sandy Bridge i7 underclocked to 3.0GHz with Hyperthreading off, I was still getting almost 100fps with no lagging, and was almost hitting a GPU bottleneck.  When I turned hyperthreading back on it only went up by about 10fps where I was hitting a definite GPU bottleneck, as overclocking the CPU back up to 4.5GHz didn't change much beyond that.  Also when I tested it with an R9 290 before, I remember I also got periodic lag spikes, which also only happened in Crysis 3. I really doubt his CPU is the problem here, I think it's just an issue with the game on AMD graphics cards.

[D2ultima]

I don't know if I buy the CPU bottleneck story here.  I tested Crysis 3 with an overclocked GTX 780 Ti and even when I benchmarked at 720p with AA off to reduce GPU load as much as possible with a Sandy Bridge i7 underclocked to 3.0GHz with Hyperthreading off, I was still getting almost 100fps with no lagging, and was almost hitting a GPU bottleneck.  When I turned hyperthreading back on it only went up by about 10fps where I was hitting a definite GPU bottleneck, as overclocking the CPU back up to 4.5GHz didn't change much beyond that.  Also when I tested it with an R9 290 before, I remember I also got periodic lag spikes, which also only happened in Crysis 3. I really doubt his CPU is the problem here, I think it's just an issue with the game on AMD graphics cards.

It didn't happen in all places. It happened in specific parts of the game where my GPU load went from 99% on each card to 66% and I got below 50FPS. But it DID happen.

 

Edit: lemme elaborate. It never happened in multiplayer. Only in SP. When it happened, my CPU was 85%+ in usage, crossing well over into 90%+ (nothing else running except Origin and my monitoring software) and only one screen attached. So I knew it was a CPU bottleneck . It doesn't really happen in BF4 or anything else I've tried. But it definitely does happen. A 4.5GHz i7 though on a 780Ti shouldn't have come close to this. The times it happened all had incredibly long lines of sight; such as the first time when you see the super strong rail gun weapon and there's just this massive open field to pass through. Looking down range would trigger it.

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And also try the games without MSI afterburner it sometimes interfere with the game cause a huge frame drop that happened with me in AC Unity and some other games that I don't remember but I'm pretty sure MSI was the problem ( I'm not saying that your problem is MSI afterburner but give it a try ) 

 

and Close game rapter  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/244579-stunning-performance-oo/

As far as I'm seeing the GPU is pinned at 99% usage with some dips to 85%. Anyways if the GPU is at 99% that means the GPU is performing at its best, if it's slightly lower than 99% eg 85% your CPU is limiting the performance a bit. Again moving from 85 to 99% is a 15% gain in FPS, so a CPU upgrade/overclock isn't worth it.

CPU Usage means nothing, even if it's at 100% usage, as long as the GPU sits at 99% that's all that matters.

[xnoobftw]

I don't know if I buy the CPU bottleneck story here.  I tested Crysis 3 with an overclocked GTX 780 Ti and even when I benchmarked at 720p with AA off to reduce GPU load as much as possible with a Sandy Bridge i7 underclocked to 3.0GHz with Hyperthreading off, I was still getting almost 100fps with no lagging, and was almost hitting a GPU bottleneck.  When I turned hyperthreading back on it only went up by about 10fps where I was hitting a definite GPU bottleneck, as overclocking the CPU back up to 4.5GHz didn't change much beyond that.  Also when I tested it with an R9 290 before, I remember I also got periodic lag spikes, which also only happened in Crysis 3. I really doubt his CPU is the problem here, I think it's just an issue with the game on AMD graphics cards.

Surprisingly crysis 3 is an AMD branded game and it seem so suck on r9 290(x)

Hmmm i'll look into it myself on google, Thanks for your input!  

 

As far as I'm seeing the GPU is pinned at 99% usage with some dips to 85%. Anyways if the GPU is at 99% that means the GPU is performing at its best, if it's slightly lower than 99% eg 85% your CPU is limiting the performance a bit. Again moving from 85 to 99% is a 15% gain in FPS, so a CPU upgrade/overclock isn't worth it.

CPU Usage means nothing, even if it's at 100% usage, as long as the GPU sits at 99% that's all that matters.

What you says actually makes alot of sense thanks!  

[xnoobftw]

I don't know if I buy the CPU bottleneck story here.  I tested Crysis 3 with an overclocked GTX 780 Ti and even when I benchmarked at 720p with AA off to reduce GPU load as much as possible with a Sandy Bridge i7 underclocked to 3.0GHz with Hyperthreading off, I was still getting almost 100fps with no lagging, and was almost hitting a GPU bottleneck.  When I turned hyperthreading back on it only went up by about 10fps where I was hitting a definite GPU bottleneck, as overclocking the CPU back up to 4.5GHz didn't change much beyond that.  Also when I tested it with an R9 290 before, I remember I also got periodic lag spikes, which also only happened in Crysis 3. I really doubt his CPU is the problem here, I think it's just an issue with the game on AMD graphics cards.

Hmmm it seems like playing with high on system specs seems to take like virtually all the lag away

I was playing on SMAA x4 , very high texture and very high system specs

Now im playing on MSAA x4, very high texture and high system specs

Which AA is better tho

[Glenwing]

Hmmm it seems like playing with high on system specs seems to take like virtually all the lag away

I was playing on SMAA x4 , very high texture and very high system specs

Now im playing on MSAA x4, very high texture and high system specs

Which AA is better tho

SMAA should run better and look similar.

[xnoobftw]

SMAA should run better and look similar.

SMAA kinda looks better to me

Alright thanks for the help! My problem is fixed  

[D2ultima]

SMAA kinda looks better to me

Alright thanks for the help! My problem is fixed

The higher you force graphics to go, the more your GPU-bind a game. So that WOULD quicker fix a CPU bottleneck, yes .