PSU issue or something else?

[Diceair]

Hi there.

 

First my specs

 

i7-4790k @ stock clocks

Corsair h100i (2x stock fans)

MSI z97 gaming 5

Club3d Royalking r9 280x crossfire

Corsair air 540 (3x120mm fans front and 1x 140mm back)

16GB Adata 2400mhz ram running at stock 1600mhz settings now

Sound blaster z sound card

2x WD 1TB HDD

2x SSD (1x samsung 840 128GB + 1x Liteon SSD 256GB)

Corsair ax 850w

Qnix 2560x1440 @ 96hz

Windows 8.1 pro 64bit

Windows power mode set to performance

ULPS off

Latest windows updates and drivers from MSI website also latest bios on motherboard

 

So my issue is that since last night running the latest omega drivers I get some crashes in my games for example played Advanced warfare on all low graphics and my game freezes and can't do anything except talk on teamspeak. Even CTRl + Alt + Delete doesn't work. The only thing I can do is to hard reset my pc. My GPU temps is about 80-85C top card and VRM never exceeds 65-70C with custom fan curve. I also tested BF4 and could play it for months now with almost 0 issues but last night it I played 1 round it worked and then I decided to go into test range to see what fps I get and bang played for a bit and game freezes but yet again could speak on teamspeak but couldn't do anything but hard reset pc. it doesn't crash all the time and on desktop it's fine so far it's only when playing games it will crash but only on the new drivers.

 

I played COD:AW a bit last night and had it freeze on me but after restarting my pc it was fine for a very long time like 2 hours straight. I also tested Far cry 4 and although I haven't played it much So far it was fine but remember it's only using 1 card for now as crossfire isn't working with that game yet. So I don't know if this could me power supply going bad or something else. I guess if it's PSU my whole pc will crash and not just the game but yet maybe it will just make the gpu's unstable. I don't know what is to blame anymore as I had a memory issue (tested it on another system and get same issue) so I replaced it with this. I also had this issue when running 2400mhz and setting windows to balanced mode it will freeze even on desktop. Maybe my memory is bad so will give memtest86+ a try tonight when I go out tonight. I've been having lot's of issues with my pc lately.

 

I have another thing it could be is that the voltages on GPU dips but according to afterburner it's not. it's constant 1.263V when gaming. Also cpu shouldn't downclock when in gaming due to having pc on performance mode. Maybe it could be the adaptive voltage thing wish there was some sort of feature where everything will stay on max clocks and voltages when gaming to eliminate instability. I also did a 3dmark firestrike test and no issues. Testing works 100% no crashes and we all know how sensitive 3dmark can be but maybe the test is to short. 

 

I've been having issues with my pc ever since I got this pc. First memory issues for months testing memtest86+ and no issues and downloaded memtest HCI and what do you know only software that could pick up issues with my memory.

[mkylem]

Could it possibly be an error with trying to load a process from your OS with an issue on that specific part of your drive?

 

I doubt it, but an SFC /scannow command never hurt.

 

It might be possible that it's a GPU RAM issue. After a quick Google, this seems like it would test it well. I've never had to do it, so I'm not sure of any software that would test it well from a first-hand account.

[Diceair]

Could it possibly be an error with trying to load a process from your OS with an issue on that specific part of your drive?

 

I doubt it, but an SFC /scannow command never hurt.

 

It might be possible that it's a GPU RAM issue. After a quick Google, this seems like it would test it well. I've never had to do it, so I'm not sure of any software that would test it well from a first-hand account.

 

 

Thanks for the input. is their any kind of test i can run other than 3dmark to put longer strain on graphics card? Also will download and run that software you linked to.

 

First thing is I will test my ram using memtest hci as i said it's the only software that could pick up some issue with ram last time. Even by just having 1 stick of ram in my system last time memtes86+ couldn't detect my issue. Maybe i have faulty IMC on my CPU. But let's start from the basics and go from there. 1 test at a time but yeah i agree it could be my memory on my gpu.

 

Do you think i should also try setting force constant voltage in MSI afterburner. Also how can I make my CPU only lower voltage when in power save mode and then run full voltage when in games or stressing the cpu? I saw that when playing games even on stock 4.4 boost voltage the power savings will make the voltage lower depending on usage per core.

 

 

Thanks

[mkylem]

For GPU benchmarks to put strain on the card, there's Unigen Heaven, 3DMark11, and the one I most recommend, FurMark.

 

It couldn't do any harm to try to set a constant voltage for your GPU as long as it's not too much, of course.

 

As for your power savings, I would recommend taking it off of "Power Saver" and putting it to "Balanced". It allows you to use power when you needed while limiting what it's doing in periods of inactivity. "Power Saver" was specifically made for laptops as it may be an issue if you only have a battery and no outlet nearby.

 

I wouldn't worry about CPU voltages until you decide that you don't want to use "Power Saver" as it's just going to limit what the CPU can process anyway. I assume that it has nothing with changing the voltage or clock speeds, but what is being sent to the processor to calculate via software.

 

I understand that you might want to be as power efficient as possible, but I'm not sure what you want is necessary available with stock Windows. I honestly don't know of any software that can change your power mode on-the-fly or even set a macro for it. DisplayFusion might have that capability, but I doubt it. I'll look through the software and let you know.

[mkylem]

So, DisplayFusion itself doesn't have the macro capability, but if you can get your hands on a .exe that can swap the power mode, you can set a macro to launch it.

 

Or, you could have two .exes that don't open windows so it would change it without any annoying pop-ups and automatically with two different macros.

[Diceair]

For GPU benchmarks to put strain on the card, there's Unigen Heaven, 3DMark11, and the one I most recommend, FurMark.

 

It couldn't do any harm to try to set a constant voltage for your GPU as long as it's not too much, of course.

 

As for your power savings, I would recommend taking it off of "Power Saver" and putting it to "Balanced". It allows you to use power when you needed while limiting what it's doing in periods of inactivity. "Power Saver" was specifically made for laptops as it may be an issue if you only have a battery and no outlet nearby.

 

I wouldn't worry about CPU voltages until you decide that you don't want to use "Power Saver" as it's just going to limit what the CPU can process anyway. I assume that it has nothing with changing the voltage or clock speeds, but what is being sent to the processor to calculate via software.

 

I understand that you might want to be as power efficient as possible, but I'm not sure what you want is necessary available with stock Windows. I honestly don't know of any software that can change your power mode on-the-fly or even set a macro for it. DisplayFusion might have that capability, but I doubt it. I'll look through the software and let you know.

 

 

thanks for the info. What I mean when I said power saving mode I meant balanced mode. i want to force constant voltage without any drops on cpu and gpu only when gaming so that will eliminate any stutter or issues unless something is really faulty. Maybe a power saving feature in bios that can prevent that? When I game i have it on performance mode but cpu voltage still fluctuate depending on CPU usage. For example I will have lower voltage when cpu is only being used 30% but the voltage is per core based.

 

 

Doesn't furmark throttle gpu anyway. I will try heaven/Valley benchamrk again.

[Diceair]

So hci memtest came back with no errors on to gpu memory test.

 

Ok that gpu memory test only test up to 2GB I tried OCCT but also only uses about 2GB per card

[Godlygamer23]

For GPU benchmarks to put strain on the card, there's Unigen Heaven, 3DMark11, and the one I most recommend, FurMark.

It couldn't do any harm to try to set a constant voltage for your GPU as long as it's not too much, of course.

As for your power savings, I would recommend taking it off of "Power Saver" and putting it to "Balanced". It allows you to use power when you needed while limiting what it's doing in periods of inactivity. "Power Saver" was specifically made for laptops as it may be an issue if you only have a battery and no outlet nearby.

I wouldn't worry about CPU voltages until you decide that you don't want to use "Power Saver" as it's just going to limit what the CPU can process anyway. I assume that it has nothing with changing the voltage or clock speeds, but what is being sent to the processor to calculate via software.

I understand that you might want to be as power efficient as possible, but I'm not sure what you want is necessary available with stock Windows. I honestly don't know of any software that can change your power mode on-the-fly or even set a macro for it. DisplayFusion might have that capability, but I doubt it. I'll look through the software and let you know.

Furmark is horrible for stress testing GPUs.

[Diceair]

Furmark is horrible for stress testing GPUs.

 

So anything else I can do to stress test something in my system?

[vlkn´]

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=178063.msg1292928#msg1292928

 

And is this something like that, what happens while gaming?

 

 

This user has also problems with the same mainboard ->  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/262866-audio-distortion-again/page-4

[Diceair]

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=178063.msg1292928#msg1292928

 

And is this something like that, what happens while gaming?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6qg0BvmDb4

 

This user has also problems with the same mainboard ->  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/262866-audio-distortion-again/page-4

 

 

no not the same issue. It's freezing completely. I've been thinking maybe I should run my gpu in full voltage 24/7 and if it still happens then I should check by disabling c1e or so in the bios.

 

Also I don't get this issue all the time. only some times

[Diceair]

Sorry for replying again. So far i played far cry for about 2 hours and no issues but yet again it's only using 1 card cause of AMD that disabled the crossfire support for the game.