REFERENCE 970 SPOTTED?

[Rexchaos]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (Require Min. 500W Power Supply)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814132038

 

It's on newegg so i'm pretty sure they "exist" but that price for a reference?

 

Quick question: how much would the OC be affected from reference to aftermarket cooling abilities? like the g1, 4g gaming etc.

[Imakuni]

They aren't "reference" in the sense that nVidea produces it themsevels. They are a custom cooled 970, made to look exactly like a reference card. Pretty sure there was a topic about this a few days ago.

[Tacitus]

Yeah... they've been floating around for about a month now

[Rexchaos]

They aren't "reference" in the sense that nVidea produces it themsevels. They are a custom cooled 970, made to look exactly like a reference card. Pretty sure there was a topic about this a few days ago.

 

 

Yeah... they've been floating around for about a month now

 

 

 

 

It's custom made? but @ the specs it says brand Nvidia and chipset nvidia also, so i thought that they were actually authentic nvidia made reference coolers.

 

I was waiting for these for my sli build, but i guess i'd have to go gigabyte g1 then a reference 970 when it comes out. the price on that reference is pretty high imo.

[Imakuni]

I was waiting for these for my sli build, but i guess i'd have to go gigabyte g1 then a reference 970 when it comes out. the price on that reference is pretty high imo.

 

I suppose you are waiting for them because they have blower coolers? In that case, there is the PNY 970, that I find particually gorgeous, and has a blower type cooler. MSI also has a 4gd5 and 4gd5 OC blower 970.

 

Take a look around. You might find something good. Just don't get Gigabyte's Windforce coolers for SLI.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

those are straight from nvidia cards and yes, they are that expensive cause they pack more performance than non-ref ones, a non-ref is only more expensive than a straight from nvidia ref if it's a very extreme version of the card like the k|ngp|n witch is around $150 more than a reference 

[Rexchaos]

I suppose you are waiting for them because they have blower coolers? In that case, there is the PNY 970, that I find particually gorgeous, and has a blower type cooler. MSI also has a 4gd5 and 4gd5 OC blower 970.

 

Take a look around. You might find something good. Just don't get Gigabyte's Windforce coolers for SLI.

I'm going to sli in a bitfenix prodigy which doesn't have the best of coolings with a noctua nh-d14 for my build. I was waiting for the references because of the look and the pny's look alright, different people have different tastes i guess but i don't like the msi one. and why not a gigabyte windforce for sli? i understand that reference's would cool better due to air rising from top etc and all but they oc better i guess and the gigabyte 970 cools pretty efficiently?

those are straight from nvidia cards and yes, they are that expensive cause they back more performance than non-ref one, a non-ref is only more expensive than a straight from nvidia ref if it's a very extreme version of the card like the k|ngp|n witch is around $150 more than a reference 

the kingpin ones are binned like crazy so i understand where that premium is coming, but references costing 360 tipping 370? that's ridiculous, more expensive than a non-ref gigabyte g1 970, msi 970 4g, etc.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

 

the kingpin ones are binned like crazy so i understand where that premium is coming, but references costing 360 tipping 370? that's ridiculous, more expensive than a non-ref gigabyte g1 970, msi 970 4g, etc.

yes, why do you think it requires more wattage than a non-ref, because it's got more performance; that's why if you were looking for just raw performance and maybe considering liquid cooling, you should go straight for a Ref by nvidia, but if you ought for all rounded performance, you know, better cooling than reference, higher clock speeds, you go for a non reference, but you will be sacrificing a bit of performance over an nvidia reference at the top end when you max out 

[Imakuni]

I'm going to sli in a bitfenix prodigy which doesn't have the best of coolings with a noctua nh-d14 for my build. I was waiting for the references because of the look and the pny's look alright, different people have different tastes i guess but i don't like the msi one. and why not a gigabyte windforce for sli? i understand that reference's would cool better due to air rising from top etc and all but they oc better i guess and the gigabyte 970 cools pretty efficiently?

The g1 gaming ocs better and cools very well. So this means it generates more heat (because of OC) than other cards, and has lower temps, because all that heat is sent away using the fans. Now, let's think for a second. If that extra heat is all being carryed away by the fans, where does it go? Let's see... OH, right in the back of the second card, making that second card a lot hotter.

 

It is also a HUGE card. In a limited airflow enviroment, such as you described, the cenario is even worst!

[Rexchaos]

The g1 gaming ocs better and cools very well. So this means it generates more heat (because of OC) than other cards, and has lower temps, because all that heat is sent away using the fans. Now, let's think for a second. If that extra heat is all being carryed away by the fans, where does it go? Let's see... OH, right in the back of the second card, making that second card a lot hotter.

 

It is also a HUGE card. In a limited airflow enviroment, such as you described, the cenario is even worst!

Yeah but what if i had the gigabyte g1 in the front pci-express slot and then the back card is a reference cooler or blower type cooler? Wouldn't that make it more effective, but achieve higher speeds (oc)?

yes, why do you think it requires more wattage than a non-ref, because it's got more performance; that's why if you were looking for just raw performance and maybe considering liquid cooling, you should go straight for a Ref by nvidia, but if you ought for all rounded performance, you know, better cooling than reference, higher clock speeds, you go for a non reference, but you will be sacrificing a bit of performance over an nvidia reference at the top end when you max out 

yeah but thats extreme, like custom water loops and gpu cool/what not, that would be pretty much having an exclusive gpu cooler (water) so obviously the price goes up and so does the OC-ability.

[ViruZ_HUN]

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (Require Min. 500W Power Supply)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814132038

 

It's on newegg so i'm pretty sure they "exist" but that price for a reference?

 

Quick question: how much would the OC be affected from reference to aftermarket cooling abilities? like the g1, 4g gaming etc.

 

Oh so new news..

 

Thx for posting!

[Imakuni]

Yeah but what if i had the gigabyte g1 in the front pci-express slot and then the back card is a reference cooler or blower type cooler? Wouldn't that make it more effective, but achieve higher speeds (oc)?

They will only perform as good as the worst card. And 9/10 times, the worst card will be the blower cooler. So you'll pay more for a g1 card, while getting as much performance as a cheaper one.

 

But you are right, it will be far more effective. You could buy the g1 now, and play with it for quite a while, until you feel you need more power; and you get the 2nd type a blower type.

 

If you plan on getting both at the same time, though, I'd recommend 2 blower right off the bat.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

Yeah but what if i had the gigabyte g1 in the front pci-express slot and then the back card is a reference cooler or blower type cooler? Wouldn't that make it more effective, but achieve higher speeds (oc)?

yeah but thats extreme, like custom water loops and gpu cool/what not, that would be pretty much having an exclusive gpu cooler (water) so obviously the price goes up and so does the OC-ability.

naah my friend, don't mistake, understand, that an nvidia reference will beat a non reference at the top end when you max em both weather you're water or air cooling, without any exclusive coolers and what not, an nvidia reference is better than a non reference apart from cooling, it would beat a non reference even at slightly lower clock speeds and voltage 

[HippY]

yes, why do you think it requires more wattage than a non-ref, because it's got more performance; that's why if you were looking for just raw performance and maybe considering liquid cooling, you should go straight for a Ref by nvidia, but if you ought for all rounded performance, you know, better cooling than reference, higher clock speeds, you go for a non reference, but you will be sacrificing a bit of performance over an nvidia reference at the top end when you max out 

The only reason they are more expensive is that it is rare, and because they can hike up the price

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-205-OK

 

read description

 

a 3rd party company makes them it is a non reference reference board ( like they used the reference design, modified it.. so it is a non reference) with the nvidia cooling solution.

[Rexchaos]

They will only perform as good as the worst card. And 9/10 times, the worst card will be the blower cooler. So you'll pay more for a g1 card, while getting as much performance as a cheaper one.

 

But you are right, it will be far more effective. You could buy the g1 now, and play with it for quite a while, until you feel you need more power; and you get the 2nd type a blower type.

 

If you plan on getting both at the same time, though, I'd recommend 2 blower right off the bat.

 

but the main thing holding me back from getting a reference is the price. Like references are usually $330 and all, but this one tips $370, mid 360. I feel like im paying more for an card that isn't worth it and oc's less.

naah my friend, don't mistake, understand, that an nvidia reference will beat a non reference at the top end when you max em both weather you're water or air cooling, without any exclusive coolers and what not, an nvidia reference is better than a non reference apart from cooling, it would beat a non reference even at slightly lower clock speeds and voltage 

That's only if you have them on water cooling. in a ideal condition, aftermarket 970s > reference 970's. it's only in a case with bad air flow does the reference does better because of the way the fans work .

The only reason they are more expensive is that it is rare, and because they can hike up the price

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-205-OK

 

read description

 

a 3rd party company makes them it is a non reference reference board ( like they used the reference design, modified it.. so it is a non reference) with the nvidia cooling solution.

that's only the overclocker's custom 970 though. the one on newegg doesn't say much but says brand:Nvidia, chipset nvidia, tempting me to believe that they are the authentic nvidia made 970's.

[Viking Kong]

This is the 970 I have. Got it used for $260. I thought it was a good deal 

[Rexchaos]

This is the 970 I have. Got it used for $260. I thought it was a good deal 

the reference one? that's an ridiculous deal/steal although used. the 970's already a bang for buck card, and even cheaper?

[Viking Kong]

the reference one? that's an ridiculous deal/steal although used. the 970's already a bang for buck card, and even cheaper?

Yes the reference one with the cooler similar to titan. Has a nice black nvidia backplate.

May be "used" but I have the product registration and the guy barely touched it. 

[Viking Kong]

Yes the reference one with the cooler similar to titan. Has a nice black nvidia backplate, and the heat fins are black.

May be "used" but I have the product registration and the guy barely touched it. 

[Rexchaos]

 

Yes the reference one with the cooler similar to titan. Has a nice black nvidia backplate, and the heat fins are black.

May be "used" but I have the product registration and the guy barely touched it. 

 

extremely lucky is all i can say.  a 760 or would be 960 price for 970 performance.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

The only reason they are more expensive is that it is rare, and because they can hike up the price

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-205-OK

 

read description

 

a 3rd party company makes them it is a non reference reference board ( like they used the reference design, modified it.. so it is a non reference) with the nvidia cooling solution.

they're not rare, they are better performing than non reference when bouth maxed, and yes 3rd party companies do make reference ones as well, but they are not totally reference, the only pure reference can be bought from nvidia/AMD theme selves 

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

 

That's only if you have them on water cooling. in a ideal condition, aftermarket 970s > reference 970's. it's only in a case with bad air flow does the reference does better because of the way the fans work .

 

no, they will perform better than non reference even under stock air cooling, unless you push the GPU too hard and deal with thermal throttling on the reference side