Need help choosing between generations :(

[imspeedyy]

I am in the position of upgrading my old pc. Starting with a new motherboard and CPU.

 

I was either going to get a 2011 socket (items below)

 

CPU: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18759

MB: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19084

 

 

OR 

 

 

1155 socket (items below) Possibly 1150 socket (haswell tech) Most likely haswell over ivy. But anyway!

 

CPU: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=20140

MB: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1183&products_id=21565

 

 

What are the main advantages and disadvantages of going either way. Obviously the 2011 is 6 cores but also "sandy bridge"

 

So yeah throw me some advice and stats or info on each direction (2011 or 1155) 

 

Thanks alot guys :)

 

[WoodenMarker]

The 2011 costs much more but is plain better in just about every aspect.

 

Ivy>Haswell. Haswell provides little performance boost considering the cost difference of cpu + mobo.

 

What kind of system are you shooting for? These are some hefty processors.

[imspeedyy]

The 2011 costs much more but is plain better in just about every aspect.

 

Ivy>Haswell. Haswell provides little performance boost considering the cost difference of cpu + mobo.

 

What kind of system are you shooting for? These are some hefty processors.

Yeah the price is a big jump that's why I want to be sure that the money is worth what im getting for it.

 

Gaming primarily, but also i used to do youtube and video rendering and editing, so the extra cores and all would come in handy. Plus i plan to get multiple screens so thta would mean multitasking and i thought the extra cores and all would help wiht that!

 

What would u recommend?

 

I was more worried that sandy bridge was old and wouldnt be as good as some of the new generations and it would be better to spend less for newer tech

[extremescouter]

What are you planning on doing with your PC? 2011 is better for video/photo editing and rendering, while Haswell has the lower power states to save electricity. However, 2011 is just a better CPU overall. 

[imspeedyy]

What are you planning on doing with your PC? 2011 is better for video/photo editing and rendering, while Haswell has the lower power states to save electricity. However, 2011 is just a better CPU overall. 

Gaming primarily, but also i used to do youtube and video rendering and editing, so the extra cores and all would come in handy. Plus i plan to get multiple screens so thta would mean multitasking and i thought the extra cores and all would help wiht that!

 

What would u recommend?

 

I was more worried that sandy bridge was old and wouldnt be as good as some of the new generations and it would be better to spend less for newer tech

[extremescouter]

Yeah the price is a big jump that's why I want to be sure that the money is worth what im getting for it.

 

Gaming primarily, but also i used to do youtube and video rendering and editing, so the extra cores and all would come in handy. Plus i plan to get multiple screens so thta would mean multitasking and i thought the extra cores and all would help wiht that!

 

What would u recommend?

 

I was more worried that sandy bridge was old and wouldnt be as good as some of the new generations and it would be better to spend less for newer tech

 

If you have the money, go for it. You will definitely see a performance difference between the two. The extra cores really won't help that much with multitasking, as RAM matters more, but overall the 3930k is a great choice. The 3930k is not old, and it is still better than all of the Haswell CPUs. The CPUs actually aren't progressing all that fast, so you should be just fine with the 3930k. Also, Intel is theoretically keeping the 2011 socket, so you can upgrade easily when Ivy Bridge-E or Haswell-E comes out. 

[Guest]

My god, that was a $599 CPU last week there :/

 

Anywho - unless you're doing a lot of video work, I see no reason to go with the 2011 platform. And furthermore, if you're only gaming I don't see the need to go for a quadcore with hyperthreading. Now as to Haswell vs Ivy Bridge - Haswell offers better power consumption and better onobard graphics but reports have shown the overclocking performance varies greatly. Haswell also offers more SATA 3 ports and more SATA ports in general which to someone like me who is lazy and runs onboard RAID is a big thing however it may not be to you. Ivy Bridge is more uniform with its overclocking potential. 

[imspeedyy]

If you have the money, go for it. You will definitely see a performance difference between the two. The extra cores really won't help that much with multitasking, as RAM matters more, but overall the 3930k is a great choice. The 3930k is not old, and it is still better than all of the Haswell CPUs. The CPUs actually aren't progressing all that fast, so you should be just fine with the 3930k. Also, Intel is theoretically keeping the 2011 socket, so you can upgrade easily when Ivy Bridge-E or Haswell-E comes out. 

So it will be getting me better performance and overall better game experiences and higher FPS which is what i want. How much RAM would be a very strong amount to allow decent multitasking and 32 GB? and what speed of RAM? because i dont want that stupid lag and everything when somethings rendering :D

So i would be safe to go with a 3930k ? And is that motherboard a good one aswell? Because i liked it for the look more over the stats even though its good! i wanted something black and plain to suit my colour scheme of black really.

 

My god, that was a $599 CPU last week there :/

 

Anywho - unless you're doing a lot of video work, I see no reason to go with the 2011 platform. And furthermore, if you're only gaming I don't see the need to go for a quadcore with hyperthreading. Now as to Haswell vs Ivy Bridge - Haswell offers better power consumption and better onobard graphics but reports have shown the overclocking performance varies greatly. Haswell also offers more SATA 3 ports and more SATA ports in general which to someone like me who is lazy and runs onboard RAID is a big thing however it may not be to you. Ivy Bridge is more uniform with its overclocking potential. 

Hmmmmm.

Although I use it for gaming primarily I still occasionally edit and all but nothing serious. So as far as that goes although i still do it, it's not much.

So over all you would recommend staying with 1155 socket?

 

P.S. Sorry about cross post before, I had posted it in the other one and thought it would be better to get a response in this section! Sorry again! :(

[WoodenMarker]

Yeah the price is a big jump that's why I want to be sure that the money is worth what im getting for it.

 

Gaming primarily, but also i used to do youtube and video rendering and editing, so the extra cores and all would come in handy. Plus i plan to get multiple screens so thta would mean multitasking and i thought the extra cores and all would help wiht that!

 

What would u recommend?

 

I was more worried that sandy bridge was old and wouldnt be as good as some of the new generations and it would be better to spend less for newer tech

Unless you're doing heavy video work, something like the xeon e3-1230 v2 is a wonderful bang for your buck. It's pretty much a 0.1ghz slower 3770 at a much lower price. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637e31230v2

The only thing is that it doesn't have integrated graphics but anyone getting an i7 level cpu should be getting dedicated graphics most of the time anyway.

 

Sandy bridge isn't even that far off from haswell. The main reason for going ivy instead of sandy is that it isn't much more expensive. I can't say the same for haswell though.

[imspeedyy]

Unless you're doing heavy video work, something like the xeon e3-1230 v2 is a wonderful bang for your buck. It's pretty much a 0.1ghz slower 3770 at a much lower price. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637e31230v2

The only thing is that it doesn't have integrated graphics but anyone getting an i7 level cpu should be getting dedicated graphics most of the time anyway.

 

Sandy bridge isn't even that far off from haswell. The main reason for going ivy instead of sandy is that it isn't much more expensive. I can't say the same for haswell though.

Ok so a 1155 or 1150 socket be fine for my needs.

 

But what are the differences (besides price) between a 3770k and a 4770k ?

[WoodenMarker]

Ok so a 1155 or 1150 socket be fine for my needs.

 

But what are the differences (besides price) between a 3770k and a 4770k ?

4770k uses less power, has more inconsistent overclocks (heats up more too), and is a bit faster.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K

[imspeedyy]

4770k uses less power, has more inconsistent overclocks (heats up more too), and is a bit faster.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K

So basically what I got from that was that a 3770k would be better?

What if I wasnt to overclock them at all? How would that change the opinion and what would be better?

[WoodenMarker]

So basically what I got from that was that a 3770k would be better?

What if I wasnt to overclock them at all? How would that change the opinion and what would be better?

If you weren't to overclock, you should go with the xeon which is basically a 3770 at $200.

 

Between 3770 and 4770, the 3770 is still a better bang for your buck. There's still a premium to be paid when going for haswell. Until the price lowers, I would recommend sticking with ivy.

[imspeedyy]

If you weren't to overclock, you should go with the xeon which is basically a 3770 at $200.

 

Between 3770 and 4770, the 3770 is still a better bang for your buck. There's still a premium to be paid when going for haswell. Until the price lowers, I would recommend sticking with ivy.

Ok thanks heaps! This has cleared my mind and saved me a lot of money :)