networking switch...sorta

[gts250ftw]

hey guys i got a quick question...ok well here is my situation first...we have one router for wifi and im using an older router as a switch (using a crossover cable) so we can access more ethernet ports since i like everything wired...hehe smart TVs dvd players and such...

ok so i play COD on my ps3 with friends (dont judge me pls xD) and i live in trinidad (i get around 3 bars rarely 4 bars and sometimes 2/1bars) we also have a 5 meg dl and 2 meg upload...i was wondering if i could buy an ethernet switch like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-704-042&ParentOnly=1&IsVirtualParent=1

 

and plug the modem directly into the switch...then connect everything that doesnt really need the security of a router...the ps3/tv/dvd player into this and if i can plug the router into the switch and then the computers into the router? my cousin has a completely separate network where he port forwards his ps3...

my question...will this reduce lag? (i also wanna try plugging my ps3 directly into the modem but we kinda need to have internet for other members of the family) 

also is what i suggested even possible? if not how can i reduce the lag? if thats possible at all?

im not really new to networking but im also FAR from being a pro :/

 

[Ssoele]

What I understand is that you want to connect your PS3/TV/DVD directly to your modem to offload your router?

 

It depends on your ISP, mine for example supports up to 4 'clients', that means that I can have 4 systems connected to my modem directly and they will all get there own IP address. Most ISP;s only support 1 or 2 clients.

 

It is also NOT recommended to connect any of these devices directly to your modem, security is a big deal, if you like it or not.

 

Just connect your switch to your router and you should be good to go.

 

As for the lag, a router does normally not introduce much lag, WiFi and powerline do however.

[gts250ftw]

What I understand is that you want to connect your PS3/TV/DVD directly to your modem to offload your router?

 

It depends on your ISP, mine for example supports up to 4 'clients', that means that I can have 4 systems connected to my modem directly and they will all get there own IP address. Most ISP;s only support 1 or 2 clients.

 

It is also NOT recommended to connect any of these devices directly to your modem, security is a big deal, if you like it or not.

 

Just connect your switch to your router and you should be good to go.

 

As for the lag, a router does normally not introduce much lag, WiFi and powerline do however.

 

ok thanks that was actually a big help! :)  well i doubt my isp will know heh....customer services...:/

but really? i thought devices like macs and those that arent based around windows were pretty safe heh...

so its possible to connect the switch to the modem then connect the router and ps3 to the switch? if my modem supports 2 clients?

also i have another question...we have 2 of the modems and the input for the internet into the modem is from a coaxial cable like what is on the back of a tv (what old analog tvs used with antennas) can i connect the 2 modems and get 2 speparate connections?

 

also if my router supports 2 clients will that essentially mean i can connect 2 routers to a switch and have 2 separate home networks with 5 megs each? and if i were to connect one of those 2 networks via ethernet and the other via wifi...could i bridge them??

 

it may seem like pretty stupid questions but networking is really complex imo heh

[rufee]

With the speed you are getting just bridge your modem and router and it will handle it nicely if you need more ports buy a switch and plug that into the router (it becomes a port expander).

If LAN thoughput matters upgrade your equipment to gigabit.

As for multiple clients, im not sure if more that one connection is supported though a PPPoE (or whatever cable modems use for communication). Usually ISP's give you only one IP, for example i have 1 external IP and i can have a lot of internal IP's if i wish i can also pay for more externals, but then again im not on cable. You can have multiple clients because it can be done (yey for us :D ), but you have to pay extra for them.

 

also if my router supports 2 clients will that essentially mean i can connect 2 routers to a switch and have 2 separate home networks with 5 megs each? and if i were to connect one of those 2 networks via ethernet and the other via wifi...could i bridge them??

Not without running a new line, you will have to seperate connections @ 5 mbps because you are still using the 1 line for them. Bridging can be done yes.

[fataldog187]

I have like 3 or 4 switches between me and my router, its 2-4ms ping on average over about 150ft of ethernet cable whereas directly connected to the router is <1ms ping. So switches can introduce some delay, just not that much.

[gts250ftw]

well i was just wondering if i can get my DL speeds to increase from 5 megs because i have 2 separate modems so i was wondering if i could have 2 separate networks (as if i paid for 2 connections) and then i could buy a mobo with 2 ethernet ports and i could connect my pc to the 2 different modems and ill get essentially 10 megs dl if i bridge them ...heh

[gts250ftw]

modem > router > switch yes

modem > switch depends if modem only hands down 1 ip you need router in between.

some modems got some kind of router functionality build in asswell those will obviously work also.

thanks...yea i wanted my ps3 to bypass the router so hopefully the modem supports it....

ok so what if i connected another modem to the coaxial cable? and connected the ps3 to that? would my isp allow me to use 2 modems? 

also i use a router that costed like 25USD or something...its the e1200 or sumn (the cheapest router linksys sold in 2012) it was also a refurbished router so even cheaper heh

[gts250ftw]

well my modem is an arris tm 602g

and i have 2...soo i was wondering if the isp sends a certain amount of data (limiting me to 5megs) or the modem limits the amt of data i can have ....meaning with 2 modems  i can have 5 megs per modem (basically allowing me 2 internet connections )

[DJ-OnZ]

The speed limitation come from your ISP from the Internet Package you've chosen. 

Your ISP will require you to get another subscription if you want to add another modem.

 

I'd go with Arokhantos and buy a good router. I currently have a Netgear WNR3500 running Tomato (Another firmware like DD-WRT) and i'd say that i'm way far from it's limitations.

 

You could give a try to DD-WRT on yours since the Linksys e1200 is supported.

 

If you think the internet speed is your limitation, most ISP's will let you try an higher speed package for a month and you'll then be able to revert back the month after.

[gts250ftw]

The speed limitation come from your ISP from the Internet Package you've chosen. 

Your ISP will require you to get another subscription if you want to add another modem.

 

I'd go with Arokhantos and buy a good router. I currently have a Netgear WNR3500 running Tomato (Another firmware like DD-WRT) and i'd say that i'm way far from it's limitations.

 

You could give a try to DD-WRT on yours since the Linksys e1200 is supported.

 

If you think the internet speed is your limitation, most ISP's will let you try an higher speed package for a month and you'll then be able to revert back the month after.

ohk thanks i was just wondering...uk like how a person can buy a cable box and get free cable..i thought it could work too

we currently have digital cable but i think its still possible...heh

well i guess ill just try changing the firmware (is it that big of a deal tho?) i have the e1200 and wrt54g2

[DJ-OnZ]

Since cable modem are registered directly at the ISP, you can't get a modem working without a proper subscription.

[gts250ftw]

Since cable modem are registered directly at the ISP, you can't get a modem working without a proper subscription.

so with the modem i have can i plug in a switch and then plug in my router to the switch? or is the amount of clients supported up to the isp?

[DJ-OnZ]

It will depend on how many IP adresses your ISP is giving you by default. I'd say that mine give 4 IP's per client. If yours is going the same way, then you should be ok.

 

You can give it a try, you'll see how many apparels can get to the internet at the same time.

 

But then again, I would still recommend to get a router right after the modem. This is basic protection and it won't have the limitation on how many things are plugged in at the same time.

[gts250ftw]

It will depend on how many IP adresses your ISP is giving you by default. I'd say that mine give 4 IP's per client. If yours is going the same way, then you should be ok.

 

You can give it a try, you'll see how many apparels can get to the internet at the same time.

 

But then again, I would still recommend to get a router right after the modem. This is basic protection and it won't have the limitation on how many things are plugged in at the same time.

 

well i just wanted to plug my ps3 into the switch and then the router into the switch thats all...so 2 ip addresses would be fine heh...i mean what would want to attack a console ??

[DJ-OnZ]

As long as your ISP provide you 2 IPs, you should be fine.