Is there any other diffrence in the Z87 and the Z97 other then M.2 and sata express...

[Daniel91]

I have a friend who wants to get the GIGABYTE G1.SNIPER M5 because she likes the green colout over the red GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5

 

I'm trying to advice her against getting the Z87 chipset

 

thanks for the advice and help

 

[PokémonTrainerFour]

no difference except that Z87 is almost out 

 

it doesn't support Devil's Canyon (4690k/4790k) and Z97 is slated to support Broadwell after a BIOS update

[Daniel91]

no difference except that Z87 is almost out 

 

it doesn't support Devil's Canyon (4690k/4790k) and Z97 is slated to support Broadwell after a BIOS update

I tried to tell her about the cpu support and she says you can update the bios  and she said she won't be getting the broadwell anyways =.=

[Deddie]

no difference except that Z87 is almost out 

 

it doesn't support Devil's Canyon (4690k/4790k) and Z97 is slated to support Broadwell after a BIOS update

Z87 do support Devil's Canyon if it has a new enough UEFI.

[PokémonTrainerFour]

Z87 do support Devil's Canyon if it has a new enough UEFI.

you usually have to have a CPU already to do a BIOS update, and they don't always work perfectly.

[Syntaxvgm]

you usually have to have a CPU already to do a BIOS update, and they don't always work perfectly.

This

[Deddie]

you usually have to have a CPU already to do a BIOS update, and they don't always work perfectly.

If you're lucky you could get a motherboard with a new enough UEFI on it already though.

[Syntaxvgm]

If you're lucky you could get a motherboard with a new enough UEFI on it already though.

I have had experiences where the vendor, even newegg, says they'll ship with the newest update, but you may end up with their old stock, and screwed. The manufacturer is the one that updates, not the vendor. Now if you have another compatible CPU or have a friend with one, then it's ok to go for it

[MourningSouls]

Will it be at all worth upgrading to Broadwell from what's available right now? I haven't been paying much attention as it'll be 2 years (Maybe Cannonlake) or so before my next upgrade.

 

Personally, I'd take the Z87 board in a heartbeat, I missed my opportunity and I'm kicking myself for it.

[Daniel91]

Will it be at all worth upgrading to Broadwell from what's available right now? I haven't been paying much attention as it'll be 2 years (Maybe Cannonlake) or so before my next upgrade.

 

Personally, I'd take the Z87 board in a heartbeat, I missed my opportunity and I'm kicking myself for it.

I dunno about Broadwell I stilll don't even know what improvements will broadwell bring

 

all I know is my own build I wanted to get the sniper M5 but at that time it was out of stock

[MourningSouls]

If she can get her hands on it, and a pre-refresh Haswell CPU and is unlikely to upgrade until at least Skylake, I say go for it. Throw in Corsairs green vengeance LP, a reference Nvidia GPU and a Be Quiet Shadow Rock 2 CPU cooler and she'll have one sexy looking system.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I have a friend who wants to get the GIGABYTE G1.SNIPER M5 because she likes the green colout over the red GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5

 

I'm trying to advice her against getting the Z87 chipset

 

thanks for the advice and help

those boards all ship updated now, its just as good as the z97.

[Faa]

I have had experiences where the vendor, even newegg, says they'll ship with the newest update, but you may end up with their old stock, and screwed. The manufacturer is the one that updates, not the vendor. Now if you have another compatible CPU or have a friend with one, then it's ok to go for it

A bios update isn't always needed, http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4737

That particular board, which is 8 series so it's released a year ago when Haswell came out, which never got any bios update supports a 4790k.

[Sintezza]

Not all gigabyte Z87 boards seem to be verywell working with devils canyon cpu´s.

I remember that @JayzTwoCents had allot of issues with his Gigabyte board.

So he went and boaght a Msi Z97 M-power if im right?

Ive im right he had some problems with the cpu voltage acting weird at stock speeds, or something.

Maybe Jay will jump in, and explain more on this.

 

Anyway i would not recommend to buy a gigabyte Z87 board with a DC cpu.

Simply because it will most likely not work properly.

Also keep in mind that you can only update the bios with an supported haswell 1.0 cpu so yeah..

 

Only Asus boards have the capability to flash a bios without a cpu and ram installed.

 

But yeah if she realy likes the green color, then she could also grab a 4670K or 4770k, there is not much of a diffrence between those and devils canyon to be honnest.

only a few extra capacitors added to the chip, for more stable power, and improved TIM.

But this still not realy guarantees better overclocking over haswell 1.0

Its still a matter of luck.

[Daniel91]

Not all gigabyte Z87 boards seem to be verywell working with devils canyon cpu´s.

I remember that @JayzTwoCents had allot of issues with his Gigabyte board.

So he went and boaght a Msi Z97 M-power if im right?

Ive im right he had some problems with the cpu voltage acting weird at stock speeds, or something.

Maybe Jay will jump in, and explain more on this.

 

Anyway i would not recommend to buy a gigabyte Z87 board with a DC cpu.

Simply because it will most likely not work properly.

Also keep in mind that you can only update the bios with an supported haswell 1.0 cpu so yeah..

 

Only Asus boards have the capability to flash a bios without a cpu and ram installed.

 

But yeah if she realy likes the green color, then she could also grab a 4670K or 4770k, there is not much of a diffrence between those and devils canyon to be honnest.

only a few extra capacitors added to the chip, for more stable power, and improved TIM.

But this still not realy guarantees better overclocking over haswell 1.0

Its still a matter of luck.

I bios update isn't a  problem for me because of my dad's cpu collection, the thing is will it be a good choice to run a older board?

I learned on the forum it's always a better idea to get the updated series so less problem may occur. I'm trying to find reason to tell her to get the newer version  so there be less problems  she insist on the colour (reason:all the other boards are yellow or red =.=)

[Sintezza]

I bios update isn't a  problem for me because of my dad's cpu collection, the thing is will it be a good choice to run a older board?

I learned on the forum it's always a better idea to get the updated series so less problem may occur. I'm trying to find reason to tell her to get the newer version  so there be less problems  she insist on the colour (reason:all the other boards are yellow or red =.=)

 

BUt if she likes the green board, why then not just buy a haswell 1.0 chip? 4670k or 4770k?

There isnt much of a diffrence between those and 4690k and 4790k.

Z87 with 4670k / 4770k will work without any issues.