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Don't the 419 have plastic earcups instead of fabric like you wanted?
From the HD 4x9 line, the 419 have the heavier bass, and that is also something you said you didn't want.
I had the 429 and they were pretty decent, if you can raise up your budget, the 439 are the only ones in the line to have a removable cable, and given how thin the cable is, I would recommend going for that, IF you are set on a sennheiser headphone.

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