GTX 770 vs. GTX 970 Correct me if I'm wrong.

[UrMomIsCallinMe]

So I'm building a new pc. Was going to put in an evga gtx 770 sc and possibly get another later down the road. I would be stupid to buy a 770 and not a 970 at this point, right? Everything is better on the 970 from what I have gathered minus still running on 256 bit.

[TheKDub]

970 is stronger than a 780, so I'd suggest upgrading to it and getting a 2nd to sli.

[TheSLSAMG]

256 bit is completely negligible, but yes. You would be stupid to buy a GTX 770 with the GTX 970 out unless you can get it for $200.

[Midnight]

get the 970.

[DIV1D3]

The GTX 970 is quite a lot better, power consumption, performance, noise and temperature wise. That's all because of the Maxwell architecture, but the price difference is pretty significant, well at least it is here in Aus. 

[thekeemo]

970 ftw

[UrMomIsCallinMe]

Yeah I'm finding the prices here in U.S. are almost the same as a 770. Even a 780 is higher priced than a 970 from what I'm finding.

[Clyne]

A 970 would be better to buy than the 770, plus Nivida is discontinuing the 770. 

[BiG StroOnZ]

970 is stronger than a 780, so I'd suggest upgrading to it and getting a 2nd to sli.

 

It really isn't stronger than a 780. Maybe at stock clocks when the 970 is boosting to the 1200 or 1300MHz range (non-reference cards) and the 780 is at stock clocks of 900MHz boost (in reality high 800's). But as soon as you put a 1000MHz overclock on the 780 it matches and surpasses a 970 @ 1200MHz. 

 

[I/O]

It really isn't stronger than a 780. Maybe at stock clocks when the 970 is boosting to the 1200 or 1300MHz range (non-reference cards) and the 780 is at stock clocks of 900MHz boost (in reality high 800's). But as soon as you put a 1000MHz overclock on the 780 it matches and surpasses a 970 @ 1200MHz. 

 

 

Enough of this ... SO now you need to OC a 780 to justify that it's still a weaker card that is/was overpriced.

[UrMomIsCallinMe]

So which 970. All are within 330-380 usd. I don't see how msi's "gaming" 970 is really any better than their stock. I like evga, but asus and msi are up there as far as "out of the box" overclocks.  The price of a 780 is much higher though than a 970 and overclocking and getting almost as good performance.

[BiG StroOnZ]

Enough of this ... SO now you need to OC a 780 to justify that it's still a weaker card that is/was overpriced.

 

Non-reference 780's come in at 1000MHz clocks stock. Hardly OCing at all. Besides who runs their cards at stock, LOL! Keep bending over to the hype train.

[I/O]

Non-reference 780's come in at 1000MHz clocks stock. Hardly OCing at all. Besides who runs their cards at stock, LOL! Keep bending over to the hype train.

GTX 970 wins . Stock for Stock Overwhelming win for GTX 970 vs 780. OC for OC overwhelming win for GTX 970 vs 780. 780 OCed vs stock clocked 970 GTX 780 is on par with 970. 970 ... CHEAPER, faster, lower power consumption, cooler, and lower noise than 780. Stop the madness everyone knows the 970/80 is the best !

[BiG StroOnZ]

GTX 970 wins . Stock for Stock Overwhelming win for GTX 970 vs 780. OC for OC overwhelming win for GTX 970 vs 780. 780 OCed 780 vs stock clocked 970 GTX 780 is on par with 970. 970 ... CHEAPER, faster, lower power consumption, cooler, and lower noise than 780. Stop the madness everyone knows the 970/80 is the best !

 

But it doesn't win OC for OC, end of story, stop ignoring benchmarks that I show you and going on your misinformation spewing tangent. 

 

1059MHz 780 surpassing a 1220MHz 970 in almost all scenarios. Now you are just lying:

 

 

It might be cheaper, have lower power consumption and cooler but it is not in any sense faster. You need to stop the madness. It's insulting to other people's intelligence. Who do you work for? Last week it was buy AMD, buy AMD, buy AMD nVidia is terrible. This week it is 980 970 980 970! Go Team Green! Hurry up and buy!

[UrMomIsCallinMe]

WHICH 970 PEOPLE!!! LOL!!

[I/O]

WHICH 970 PEOPLE!!! LOL!!

STRIX IMHO !

[79wjd]

But it doesn't win OC for OC, end of story, stop ignoring benchmarks that I show you and going on your misinformation spewing tangent. 

 

1059MHz 780 surpassing a 1220MHz 970 in almost all scenarios. Now you are just lying:

 

 

 

It might be cheaper, have lower power consumption and cooler but it is not in any sense faster. You need to stop the madness. It's insulting to other people's intelligence. Who do you work for? Last week it was buy AMD, buy AMD, buy AMD nVidia is terrible. This week it is 980 970 980 970! Go Team Green!

To bad my 780 won't overclock for shit  

[I/O]

It might be cheaper, have lower power consumption and cooler but it is not in any sense faster. You need to stop the madness. It's insulting to other people's intelligence. Who do you work for?

Oh ya and it also vram crippled. So 970 vs 780 ... lets see here 970 is ..... cheaper, faster, more vram, cooler, quieter, more efficiency, more features and newer.

[Najuno]

Non-reference 780's come in at 1000MHz clocks stock. Hardly OCing at all. Besides who runs their cards at stock, LOL! Keep bending over to the hype train.

 

Well,

 

I used to have a GTX780Ti 2way SLI, watercooled and OCed balls to the wall, and the loop was huge 9x120mm. I had really nice results but the GTX980 2way SLI destroyed my GTX780Ti s in 3D Mark. Just look into the LTT 3D Mark thread.

 

You will see that my GTX980 2way SLI dominates my GTX780Ti s. Besides that the GTX980 are in ref design and run under air atm .

[BiG StroOnZ]

 

To bad my 780 won't overclock for shit  

 

Silicon lottery, doesn't take much to match and surpass a 970 though as you can see above.

 

 

Oh ya and it also vram crippled. So 970 vs 780 ... lets see here 970 is ..... cheaper, faster, more vram, cooler, quieter, more efficiency, more features and newer.

 

It may have been VRAM crippled but I'm not running into any problems with my games right now at the moment @ 1080p so why should I worry about it? When that time comes there will be big boy Maxwell out by then making the 980 and 970 look like children's toys and I'll buy one of those instead. You keep saying faster, but it isn't.

 

Well,

 

I used to have a GTX780Ti 2way SLI, watercooled and OCed balls to the wall, and the loop was huge 9x120mm. I had really nice results but the GTX980 2way SLI destroyed my GTX780Ti s in 3D Mark. Just look into the LTT 3D Mark thread.

 

You will see that my GTX980 2way SLI dominates my GTX780Ti s. Besides that the GTX980 are in ref design and run under air atm .

 

Depends on the benchmark, game, and resolution to be honest with you. I wouldn't have dropped your 780 Ti's so quick:

 

1440P Heaven Benchmarks:

 

EVGA 980 SC, stock boosting to 1366MHz:

 

 

EVGA 980 SC OCed to 1480 core / 7600 memory:

 

 

GTX 780 Ti @ 1175 core / 6400 memory:

 

 

GTX 780 Ti @ 1294 core / 7000 memory:

 

 

an almost 1200 Core 780 Ti nearly matches an almost 1500 core 980. Then look what happens once the 780 Ti gets to the 1300MHz range.

[I/O]

You will see that my GTX980 2way SLI dominates my GTX780Ti s. Besides that the GTX980 are in ref design and run under air atm .

SUPremacy ... REMArkable ..... PERFORMance ....... ASTOUNDING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Najuno]

 

 

 

Silicon lottery, doesn't take much to match and surpass a 970 though as you can see above.

 

 

 

It may have been VRAM crippled but I'm not running into any problems with my games right now at the moment @ 1080p so why should I worry about it? When that time comes there will be big boy Maxwell out by then making the 980 and 970 looking like children's toys and I'll buy one of those instead. You keep saying faster, but it isn't.

 

 

Depends on the benchmark, game, and resolution to be honest with you. I wouldn't have dropped your 780 Ti's so quick:

 

1440P Heaven Benchmarks:

 

EVGA 980 SC, stock boosting to 1366MHz:

 

 

EVGA 980 SC OCed to 1480 core / 7600 memory:

 

 

GTX 780 Ti @ 1175 core / 6400 memory:

 

 

GTX 780 Ti @ 1294 core / 7000 memory:

 

 

an almost 1200 Core 780 Ti nearly matches an almost 1500 core 980. Then look what happens once the 780 Ti gets to the 1300MHz range.

 

I think I can judge the hardware that I had here better than you, don´t get me wrong.

 

My GTX780Ti s were good cards, but you have got to accept the truth. The 980 is faster than the GTX780Ti and the 970 is faster than a GTX780. Sorry but all my benchmarks showed the same. Valley and 3D Mark, and games like Tombraider don´t lie in the end. Like I said and the 780Ti s were watercooled and the 980s are with the ref coolers.

 

By the way I´m running a Samsung 4K display... I have really better performance in 4K. Besides that, once MFAA becomes more available then good bye to last gen. Oh and let´s not forget drivers right now are new. That means down the road you will see more optimized ones.

 

Why do you think GTX780 and GTX780Ti has been officially discontinued? If the GTX780Ti would be still the fastest then why?

 

Btw my GTX780Ti s boosted almost to 1300MHz... and still no chance to be as fast as the 980s.

[I/O]

I think I can judge the hardware that I had here better than you, don´t get me wrong.

 

Your living in the past man 970 trumps the 780 in every way possible.

[BiG StroOnZ]

I think I can judge the hardware that I had here better than you, don´t get me wrong.

 

My GTX780Ti s were good cards, but you have got to accept the truth. The 980 is faster than the GTX780Ti and the 970 is faster than a GTX780. Sorry but all my benchmarks showed the same. Valley and 3D Mark, and games like Tombraider don´t lie in the end. Like I said and the 780Ti s were watercooled and the 980s are with the ref coolers.

 

By the way I´m running a Samsung 4K display... I have really better performance in 4K. Besides that, once MFAA becomes more available then good bye to last gen. Oh and let´s not forget drivers right now are new. That means down the road you will see more optimized ones.

 

Why do you think GTX780 and GTX780Ti has been officially discontinued? If the GTX780Ti would be still the fastest then why?

 

Btw my GTX780Ti s boosted almost to 1300MHz... and still no chance to be as fast as the 980s.

 

So because your results differ from other people's results, that nullifies their results and validates yours? There was even a thread on here about someone who went into thorough detail about how his 780 Ti is mostly better than his 980. 

[Najuno]

So because your results differ from other people's results, that nullifies their results and validates yours?

You know since I don´t care about other people´s results I only care about my own results, because my hardware is highend through and thorugh and at least I have this hardware here, unlike other people that just reposte and requote stuff...