Reference vs Non reference in regards to componentry quality

[Jimstah87]

I'm wondering here in regards to the quality of the power design and quality of components installed on the card. You always hear that Asus put better power delivery components onto their cards so would this translate into reference cards from Nvidia not overclocking as well/being stable and/or lasting as long? I've only ever owned one non reference Asus card in the past and am thinking of going reference in the future as the reference Nvidia design I think looks the goods.

[RamboOC]

The reference power design is almost always weaker than the one used on non reference PCB's

[Jimstah87]

The reference power design is almost always weaker than the one used on non reference PCB's

I thought so, do you reckon that this would mean that on reference you wouldn't be able to achieve as good of an overclock compared to non reference?

[Raudi_]

I thought so, do you reckon that this would mean that on reference you wouldn't be able to achieve as good of an overclock compared to non reference?

Eh I beg to differ on this one, I've gotten a much better overclock on a reference card then I have on a non reference card always in my case.

[RamboOC]

I thought so, do you reckon that this would mean that on reference you wouldn't be able to achieve as good of an overclock compared to non reference?

You should get similar overclocks (depends on silicon lottery) but You would run into VRM temp problems sooner, and it would have shorter life expectancy when oceing. also most non-reference gpus have aftermarket coolers that tend to perform a lot better than reference coolers

[Liam-McShane]

I thought so, do you reckon that this would mean that on reference you wouldn't be able to achieve as good of an overclock compared to non reference?

No, the silicon lottery plays the biggest part. The only time you're going to notice the difference is when you're really really pushing the card, i'm thinking LN2.

[Jimstah87]

Eh I beg to differ on this one, I've gotten a much better overclock on a reference card then I have on a non reference card always in my case.

And Linus and Luke seem to have a pretty beast 780Ti reference card that overclocks like crazy from their testing videos

[Xaring]

depends on pricings

 

If you get an MSI or Asus high grade card, you'll pay 20 or 30 $ more, but get higher quality components, if you buy a zotac card for 20 $ less than reference.

 

No idea about overclocking though

[Jimstah87]

You should get similar overclocks (depends on silicon lottery) but You would run into VRM temp problems sooner, and it would have shorter life expectancy when oceing. also most non-reference gpus have aftermarket coolers that tend to perform a lot better than reference coolers

Yeah true, though if a card can last 2 - 3 years I see that to be pretty good, as the time would have come around to upgrade by then

[Raudi_]

And Linus and Luke seem to have a pretty beast 780Ti reference card that overclocks like crazy from their testing videos

Well My reference GTX 770 that I have now I've gotten a stable 600+ on the memory and a stable 350mhz+ on the core and it boost up to 1415mhz on the core.

[Jimstah87]

Well My reference GTX 770 that I have now I've gotten a stable 600+ on the memory and a stable 350mhz+ on the core and it boost up to 1415mhz on the core.

That's pretty sic, would be close to stock 780 performance

[Enderman]

Yeah non-reference has higher quality components and beefier power phases for better overclocking voltage delivery.

 

 

Well My reference GTX 770 that I have now I've gotten a stable 600+ on the memory and a stable 350mhz+ on the core and it boost up to 1415mhz on the core.

That's not what your signature says. Also the overclock depends on the GPU chip itself, not just what type of PCB and components it has.

[Raudi_]

Yeah non-reference has higher quality components and beefier power phases for better overclocking voltage delivery.

 

 

That's not what your signature says. Also the overclock depends on the GPU chip itself, not just what type of PCB and components it has.

"Have gotten" plus the card is being sent back to Nvidia so there is no point in updating my signature when my replacement card(arriving Wednesday) could overclock like crap.

[Raudi_]

That's pretty sic, would be close to stock 780 performance

Nah it was still far off because of the GPU core itself is slower even with the higher core clock speed.