amd vs intel ( erherm, again)

[the jolly roger]

So i just cant wrap my head around this one, its amd amd fx 6300 vs the core i3 43xx ( any one of those) around same price but amd has, well ( get it haswell? ) 6 cores rather then just 2, the only thing that has made me eve consider the i3 is beacause im looking at a micro atx case, and all micro atx boards for am3, are old chipsets. So why does the dual core cost the same as the hexa core? Wont a dual core hold back/bottleneck an r9 280? Help

[gundershot]

Performance per core is more important, which Intel trumps AMD with.

[harrynowl]

more to it than cores, a haswell dual core is faster than an amd quad core, with hyperthreading it's almost as fast as a 6 core.

 

no it won't hold it back in most scenarios.

 

they're priced in the same market, if they didn't compete they wouldn't be priced like that.

[Archangel1994]

First off all the I3 has hyperthreading so it can practically function as a quad-core. Second, the R9 280 will most likely not be bottlenecked by an I3. Third, the reason the I3 is about as expensive is because intel CPU's are alright with higher temperatures, are much stronger core for core and are overall of slightly higher quality.

[the jolly roger]

more to it than cores, a haswell dual core is faster than an amd quad core, with hyperthreading it's almost as fast as a 6 core.

 

no it won't hold it back in most scenarios.

 

they're priced in the same market, if they didn't compete they wouldn't be priced like that.

So in what scenarios will it be held back?

[Najuno]

Welcome to the LTT Forums .

 

I would go with the i3 because single core performance is way much better. And this is 2 Cores with HT which is fine for most gaming. But have you taken a look on the i5 4430, I find this CPU very inexpensive and I like it (got it in my HTPC).

No it won´t bottleneck a R9 280 at all.

[harrynowl]

So in what scenarios will it be held back?

some games like watch dogs and bf4 will run better on the fx, but that's about it

[Tro]

AMD is more for budget builds, Intel is generally better, but more expensive, So it really all depends on budgets.

[SpyRosL]

i3 all the way dude.Most underrated processors ever.

[the jolly roger]

Welcome to the LTT Forums .

I would go with the i3 because single core performance is way much better. And this is 2 Cores with HT which is fine for most gaming. But have you taken a look on the i5 4430, I find this CPU very inexpensive and I like it (got it in my HTPC).

No it won´t bottleneck a R9 280 at all.

If im going the i5 way id rather go the extra mile with the 4670k

some games like watch dogs and bf4 will run better on the fx, but that's about it

Mante i assume is the reason?

AMD is more for budget builds, Intel is generally better, but more expensive, So it really all depends on budgets.

Im comparing intel vs amd at the same price.

[Najuno]

If im going the i5 way id rather go the extra mile with the 4670k

Well that´s a even a better choice .

 

I guess you want to build this mainly for gaming?

[the jolly roger]

Well that´s a even a better choice .

 

I guess you want to build this mainly for gaming?

Yes, gaming but within a budget, i can spant up to 150 on cpu so these 2 are my choice

[Najuno]

Yes, gaming but within a budget, i can spant up to 150 on cpu so these 2 are my choice

Okay gotcha.

 

Then I would go with the i3.

[harrynowl]

Mante i assume is the reason?

no, they just make use of 6 cores.

[Rubenis]

i3 is the way to go. Not just because it is faster most of the time than FX, but because of possible upgrade in future, that Intel has, but AMD FX does not..

 

Only in some video rendering or heavy workloads FX will be better, but again, not by much.

[Faceman]

Yes, gaming but within a budget, i can spant up to 150 on cpu so these 2 are my choice

Don't budget out per component.  What is your overall budget, location, and needs.  Go to the New Builds and Planning, follow the direction in the sticky and make a post there. 

 

Intel is always going to win when it comes to gaming performance.

[Manny Calavera]

i3 All the way.

 

If im going the i5 way id rather go the extra mile with the 4670k

Its extra 3 miles. You have to get better mobo and cpu cooler.

 

With stock locked intel  i5 you can have cheap mobo and stock cpu cooler. If you can buy it, go for it. Else get i3

[the jolly roger]

So let me get this straight, fx is better in some mega ultra loads but not by much, intel is better because lower tdp, and there are z97 mAtx boards, am i right?

Edit: i want z97 chipset to slap in an i5 or i7 in the future

i3 All the way.

Its extra 3 miles. You have to get better mobo and cpu cooler.

With stock locked intel i5 you can have cheap mobo and stock cpu cooler. If you can buy it, go for it. Else get i3

So the diffence between k and non k cpus in that the k is unlocked?

[harrynowl]

So let me get this straight, fx is better in some mega ultra loads but not by much, intel is better because lower tdp, and there are z97 mAtx boards, am i right?

Edit: i want z97 chipset to slap in an i5 or i7 in the future

FX is better than i3 if you can use all 6/8 cores, however that is basically never when gaming.

 

Intel is better because of per core performance (IPC) rather than TDP, that's just an added bonus.

 

There are Z97 mATX boards, cheapest I can think of is the ASRock Z97M-Anniversary.

[crystal6tak]

Each haswell core is nearly twice, if not, is twice as powerful as each piledriver core. As most games utilizes 2, sometimes 4, rarely 4+ cores. The i3 wins most gaming scenario against the fx 6300.

 

In terms of maximum performance which will utilizes all 6 cores of the fx 6300, such as video rendering, the fx 6300 wins easily.

 

Another important aspect to consider is the upgradability. Choosing the fx 6300 stucks you in AM3+ socket while the i3 stucks you in LGA 1150 socket. The best chip on AM3+ is the fx 9590 and the best chip on LGA 1150 is the i7-4790K. The 4790K will outright win all scenarios againts the the fx 9590. 

[Sauron]

The 6300 beats the i3 in stuff like video editing but for gaming the i3 is generally as fast or faster.

 

 

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[Opcode]

Really tho, i3-4150 is better for gaming than the FX-6300.

[the jolly roger]

Really tho, i3-4150 is better for gaming than the FX-6300.

Ifnthe 4150 is better than 6300, how is the 4370?

[Faceman]

Ifnthe 4150 is better than 6300, how is the 4370?

Any i3 is better than the 6300.  The 4370 is the highest end i3 you can buy, and at that point, you might as well start looking at an i5k.

[Opcode]

Ifnthe 4150 is better than 6300, how is the 4370?

The only major difference is extra L3 and a few extra GHz. Sure it's faster than the i3-4150 tho at $40 more I don't think the slight performance gain will justify the price. If you live in America, Newegg has the i3-4150 for only $119.99.