Need help with build advice

[Unusualbreed]

I am living in ontario, canada. My budget is about $2000.00. I would like a system that will run modern games with ease at medium to high settings. Peripherals are not a necessity. I do not know what resolution my monitor is but it is an Asus vn247h-p 24". I am not very knowledgable with current tech so I really do not know what I would be looking for. I would however like a case with a window and that looks nice but not basic if that helps. The thermaltake versa h23 is a good one if I recall. Other than that whatever you guys think is best within my budget as I would prefer not to go over if I can.

[Aniallation]

I am living in ontario, canada. My budget is about $2000.00. I would like a system that will run modern games with ease at medium to high settings. Peripherals are not a necessity. I do not know what resolution my monitor is but it is an Asus vn247h-p 24". I am not very knowledgable with current tech so I really do not know what I would be looking for. I would however like a case with a window and that looks nice but not basic if that helps. The thermaltake versa h23 is a good one if I recall. Other than that whatever you guys think is best within my budget as I would prefer not to go over if I can.

Welcome to Linus Tech Tips! Your monitor is a pretty good 1080p screen. Just hold on, I'll come up with a build in a few minutes

[Aniallation]

@Unusualbreed

 

Here you go! This PC will pretty much max out any game you throw at it, running on that Asus monitor

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ NCIX) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($152.79 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290 4GB IceQ X² Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($424.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290 4GB IceQ X² Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($424.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($126.99 @ NCIX) 

Total: $1881.68

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 14:39 EDT-0400

[Unusualbreed]

Wow that was fast lol. Now I am in a little bit of a situation here I am currently having or built that I've gotten a few opinions on and it seems that it will not perform as well as I want for the price but I would like an opinion if you don't mind. The list I was given from the company building it is as follows:

Kingston 120GB SSD 450 MB Read / 450 MB Write

- 1 TB Seagate HDD

- Thermaltake 650 Watt PSU

- 8 GB of ADATA XPG 1600 Mhz RAM

- AMD A-10 6800k @4.4Ghz CPU

- MSI A88X Gaming Motherboard

- ASUS R9 280X Direct CU II Graphics Card

Thermaltake Versa H23 Case

- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

- BitFenix Fans

[OGFatal]

Wow that was fast lol. Now I am in a little bit of a situation here I am currently having or built that I've gotten a few opinions on and it seems that it will not perform as well as I want for the price but I would like an opinion if you don't mind. The list I was given from the company building it is as follows:

Kingston 120GB SSD 450 MB Read / 450 MB Write

- 1 TB Seagate HDD

- Thermaltake 650 Watt PSU

- 8 GB of ADATA XPG 1600 Mhz RAM

- AMD A-10 6800k @4.4Ghz CPU

- MSI A88X Gaming Motherboard

- ASUS R9 280X Direct CU II Graphics Card

Thermaltake Versa H23 Case

- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

- BitFenix Fans

This compared to the build @Aniallation put together is pretty big.

Pros:

Intel CPU

X2 290

Ssd

Cons: case doesn't have good airflow so suggest getting a new cooler.

[Unusualbreed]

So meaning his build is better basically

[Aniallation]

Wow that was fast lol. Now I am in a little bit of a situation here I am currently having or built that I've gotten a few opinions on and it seems that it will not perform as well as I want for the price but I would like an opinion if you don't mind. The list I was given from the company building it is as follows:

Kingston 120GB SSD 450 MB Read / 450 MB Write

- 1 TB Seagate HDD

- Thermaltake 650 Watt PSU

- 8 GB of ADATA XPG 1600 Mhz RAM

- AMD A-10 6800k @4.4Ghz CPU

- MSI A88X Gaming Motherboard

- ASUS R9 280X Direct CU II Graphics Card

Thermaltake Versa H23 Case

- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

- BitFenix Fans

 

Please don't hijack the thread. If you would like some advice on a build that's being done personally for you, create a new thread in the New Builds and Planning section.

 

That being said, there's a few things I see about your build that I would ask the building company to change.

 

1. The "Kingston SSD" is most likely the V300, which is one of the worst SSDs you can get right now, ask for something other then Kingston

2. Doesn't make sense to have a 6800K APU with a 280X

3. I wouldn't go with a Thermaltake PSU. Again, ask for something better.

[OGFatal]

So meaning his build is better basically

His build is A LOT better, if they're trying to sell you something like that slap them, seriously.

[Aniallation]

This compared to the build @Aniallation put together is pretty big.

Pros:

Intel CPU

X2 290

Ssd

Cons: case doesn't have good airflow so suggest getting a new cooler.

 

Noctua U14S is one hell of a cooler. Rolls right up there with the H100.

[Unusualbreed]

Ok so worked up another build which is :

Amd x6 fx-6300 six core socket am3+.

Cooler master storm enforcer case

Seagate 1 tb hdd

Asus m5a97 r2.0 socket am3+ 970/sb950 chipset

Corsair cs modular 650watt 80 gold plus certified psu

Kingston hyper x fury red 8gb ddr3 1866 MHz (2x4)

Evga GeForce gtx 760 w/ acx cooler. 2gb GDDR5

I think that's all you'll need to know what is being done. Hopefully I can get a little more help with my problems.

[KeltonDSMer]

Ok so worked up another build which is :

Amd x6 fx-6300 six core socket am3+.

Cooler master storm enforcer case

Seagate 1 tb hdd

Asus m5a97 r2.0 socket am3+ 970/sb950 chipset

Corsair cs modular 650watt 80 gold plus certified psu

Kingston hyper x fury red 8gb ddr3 1866 MHz (2x4)

Evga GeForce gtx 760 w/ acx cooler. 2gb GDDR5

I think that's all you'll need to know what is being done. Hopefully I can get a little more help with my problems.

 

The fx6300 makes a lot more sense to use than the 6800k, but I am a little confused about your overall budget. The system you just posted is much better optimized than your first, but is not even half the cost of your originally stated budget of $2000.

 

The build @Aniallation put together is a monster and has top-notch parts included, all while being under budget!

 

Do you want to spend the full amount, or are you looking for a "best value" build?

 

I am still confused about what kind of computer you want/need

 

If you just want to play some new games without spending much money, the parts you just posted actually look pretty good (you will need a better cooler than stock for cpu, however). If you want the most beastly PC you can get for $2000, Aniallations build is pretty badass (good!).

 

If you are not putting this together yourself, take note that NCIX only charges like $50 to put a system together if you buy all the parts from them and that might be a lot cheaper than whatever your friend's "shop" is going to charge.

 

More info please!

[Unusualbreed]

okay guys i will start off at te beginning. originally i was looking to spend about 1200 dollars on a system. the place i went to, which i will not name, was by recommendation. after telling them what i was looking for in the way of performance they asked if i could up my budget to meet those requirements, to which i stated 2000 dollars.  after that they gave me the first build i posted in this thread. i then started to do some research on the parts and after watching several videos on linus tech tips from ncix and reading articles i came here where i posted the build for some third pary opinions. the reaction i got was rather disappointing and led me to realize that maybe going with the original shop i went to was not the best idea. i than went to a second location called canada computers explained my situation to them and they re-did a completely new build for me with the understanding that 2000 dollars was very high overall for what i needed. the total and complete list i was given by canada computer is as follows:

 

AMD X6 FX-6300 six core socket am3+, 3.5 Ghz cpu w 8 mb cache

cooler master storm enforer mid tower case w window

LG internal 24x dvd-writer oem black sata m-disc

seagate desktop hdd 1 TB 3.5" SATA3 64 mb cache

ASUS M5A97 R2.0 scket AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 chipset dual channel DDR3 2133(OC) mhz

AOC l2367Fh 23| framless IPS LED widescreen monitor. 1920x1080, 5ms 50m:1 dcr hdmi

Mad catz cybord R.A.T 7 gaming mouse

razer blackwidow 2014 mechanical keyboard 2 all new razor clicky green mehcanical switches

corsair cs modular cs650m 650Watt psu 80 plus gold certified.

kingston hyperx fury red 8GB (2x4Gb) DDR3 1866Mhz CL10 DIMMs

microsoft windows 8

 

           including install of software and the build of the machine itself i am looking at 1600 dollard after taxes.

also if it is compatible i would most likely put in the CPU cooler that aniallation had listed

   

[brob]

@Unusualbreed,

 

What gpu (video card) is included?

 

Below is the build you outlined. It seems decent although you might want a more powerful cpu if the budget permits.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($140.57 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($118.59 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($98.29 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.13 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.77 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($134.27 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($19.19 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($123.89 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($179.67 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($146.88 @ Canada Computers)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 7 Wired Laser Mouse  ($90.38 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1212.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 20:23 EDT-0400

[KeltonDSMer]

 

What gpu (video card) is included?

 

He mentions a 760 in post #10 on this thread, I'm guessing that is what is included in the build the 2nd shop quoted him for $1600 after taxes. Add that to your PCpartpicker list and that seems like an okay deal considering a few of those will cost more through "Canada Computers".

 

In the original post, he says he has an Asus vn247h-p 24, which I see no reason to replace with the monitor recommended by Canada Computers.

 

@Unusualbreed , do you already have a mouse and keyboard you like? If so, I would remove the new monitor, mouse, and keyboard from the list.

 

If all you need is the tower, I think $1200 should allow you to step up to a higher performing CPU and/or GPU. If you do not feel comfortable building this computer yourself, I would honestly recommend just having NCIX build one for you. You can customize it however you want and be assured you are not hugely overpaying for the parts.

[Unusualbreed]

Yes the evga is the card. I for some reason did not put it into the last post. I will definitely consider ncix as an option. And while I am well aware there are better processors available. It really boils down to will it perform for the tasks I want. I.e battlefield 4. Skyrim. Titanfall and some others as well in the way of playability on high or even medium settings without any issues. The entire system that is. Thanks guys again

[brob]

Yes the evga is the card. I for some reason did not put it into the last post. I will definitely consider ncix as an option. And while I am well aware there are better processors available. It really boils down to will it perform for the tasks I want. I.e battlefield 4. Skyrim. Titanfall and some others as well in the way of playability on high or even medium settings without any issues. The entire system that is. Thanks guys again

 

Should be fine. Both NCIX and Canada Computers price match. So, if you find better pricing elsewhere you can always ask if CC will meet the price.

[KeltonDSMer]

Should be fine. Both NCIX and Canada Computers price match. So, if you find better pricing elsewhere you can always ask if CC will meet the price.

 

Perfect, for some reason I thought they were a tiny little store that might charge an arm and a leg for the parts, I should have looked them up!

 

Here's the way I look at it, the current build looks great and will play most games at 1080p 60fps with decent quality settings. The problem is that it is right on the cusp of a much faster system without investing much more money. Changing the CPU to an i5 and the GPU to an r9 280 adds less than $200 and would make for a significantly faster gaming system. You could get away with stock cooling even, saving money there.

 

OP, if you don't need a fancy keyboard/mouse, or new monitor, I would just put a couple hundred extra into the tower and beef it up a little more.

 

Whatever parts you decide to purchase, I am just glad you are not paying $2000 for a 6800k/280x system that would have left you feeling ripped off later down the road

[Unusualbreed]

Thanks man the other part I made confusing is I so not have peripherals of any kind. The original shop wanted me to get the asus monitor as canada computers wants to give me the other one but it's certainly an idea to up to those changes w the CPU and motherboard. Thanks for helping out a noob lol

[Unusualbreed]

Also this is my first gaming pc build so that's why I'm all discombobulated and all over the place. The typos are caused by my dumb iPhones autocorrect

[brob]

Thanks man the other part I made confusing is I so not have peripherals of any kind. The original shop wanted me to get the asus monitor as canada computers wants to give me the other one but it's certainly an idea to up to those changes w the CPU and motherboard. Thanks for helping out a noob lol

 

You can save a bit on the keyboard and mouse, spending nearly 20% of the budget on those items is a bit much.

[Unusualbreed]

Do you know if ncix will let me buy parts over time and then put it together. Then ship it to me or do they have stores? Just because that's what I was doing with the other retailers

[brob]

Do you know if ncix will let me buy parts over time and then put it together. Then ship it to me or do they have stores? Just because that's what I was doing with the other retailers

 

As far as I know one has to buy all the parts at the same time to have them assemble the system. NCIX has many stores - check their web site NCIX.com for details.