750k question

[DrFeel]

People say that the "Athlon ii x4 750k" doesn't actually have 4 cores. If not then what is it? My msconfig shows that I can enable 4.

[91wow]

People say that the "Athlon ii x4 750k" doesn't actually have 4 cores. If not then what is it? My msconfig shows that I can enable 4.

It's like the fx 8350, it's an 8 core but it's 4 modules with 2 cores per module. The Athlon im not to sure about as it's pretty much a 6800K, and that's a true quad core, but I know every chip in the FX series is like this, 4130 is a 2 module 4 core CPU, 6350 is a 3 module 6 core, and so on. 

[Vendetta]

The people telling you that are uneducated on the subject. The 750k is not based off the piledriver architecture so it does not use the "module" technology. The 750k has 4 traditional cores.

[DrFeel]

The people telling you that are uneducated on the subject. The 750k is not based off the piledriver architecture so it does not use the "module" technology. The 750k has 4 traditional cores.

Oh alright. Thanks. I honestly thought it was like the other AMD CPUs too.

[Deletive]

The people telling you that are uneducated on the subject. The 750k is not based off the piledriver architecture so it does not use the "module" technology. The 750k has 4 traditional cores.

 

The heck are you talking about? it's just a trinity apu with the igpu disabled

[Vendetta]

 

The heck are you talking about? it's just a trinity apu with the igpu disabled

I'm aware the 750k is just a cutdown APU. Where did you get that Silicon diagram though because the one I saw when the APU's first started coming out was different and did not have modules. I could easily be misinformed here which is why I'm curious where you found it.

[Deletive]

I'm aware the 750k is just a cutdown APU. Where did you get that Silicon diagram though because the one I saw when the APU's first started coming out was different and did not have modules. I could easily be misinformed here which is why I'm curious where you found it.

google images; the first APU the liano i think was based off of the phenoms architecture but with the A10 5800k theey moved to the piledriver architecture, the generation was named trinity. so the 750k is part of the trinity line of cpu's and Apu's.

but the whole bottom line of Amd lineup like jaguar and stuff are a completely different architecture which are infact improved architectures from before bulldozer.  

[Vendetta]

google images; the first APU the liano i think was based off of the phenoms architecture but with the A10 5800k theey moved to the piledriver architecture, the generation was named trinity. so the 750k is part of the trinity line of cpu's and Apu's.

but the whole bottom line of Amd lineup like jaguar and stuff are a completely different architecture which are infact improved architectures from before bulldozer.  

Just went and read a tomshardware article on the 7850k, you're right they are using 2 steamroller modules. Either way people saying that AMD has half the cores is completely wrong, the architecture of the modules have two complete cores in them. Where as Intel's Hyper-threading just has an extra compute unit in each core.

[harrynowl]

The people telling you that are uneducated on the subject. The 750k is not based off the piledriver architecture so it does not use the "module" technology. The 750k has 4 traditional cores.

I'm aware the 750k is just a cutdown APU. Where did you get that Silicon diagram though because the one I saw when the APU's first started coming out was different and did not have modules. I could easily be misinformed here which is why I'm curious where you found it.

I think you may be thinking of Llano APUs which was based on K10 which used a true core design.

 

 

 

And also steamroller with more detail on the actual module:

 

 

Just went and read a tomshardware article on the 7850k, you're right they are using 2 steamroller modules. Either way people saying that AMD has half the cores is completely wrong, the architecture of the modules have two complete cores in them. Where as Intel's Hyper-threading just has an extra compute unit in each core.

A complete core would have its own front end and FPU, it has 2 ALU clusters per 'core'. Hyperthreading allows you to execute 2 instructions on 1 physical core.

 

 

Haswell quad core die-diagram, note this is same for consumer parts as the lga2011 ones look different.

[i_build_nanosuits]

it's a true quad core chip but it still much slower than someting like a dual core hyperthreaded core i3 or any core i5 sandy bridge and up...

[harrynowl]

it's a true quad core chip but it still much slower than someting like a dual core hyperthreaded core i3 or any core i5 sandy bridge and up...

Not quite true quad core, but basically the rest is correct.

 

congrats on 2500

 

clock for clock my 760k is slower than my penryn mobile chip

[i_build_nanosuits]

Not quite true quad core, but basically the rest is correct.

 

congrats on 2500

 

clock for clock my 760k is slower than my penryn mobile chip

yeah, i would rather have my Q6600@3.6ghz over any AMD CPU except the FX 8 core wich i mastered overclocking on and can give acceptable performance in many games...

But still, a core i5-4430 with a cheap a$$ H81 mobo is a much better pick.