3770k OC

[ericchaipc]

Hi guys ,

I have a M Z77 Mpower with 3770k . Using NHD-14 , corsair 650D case. 

Overclock to 4.2ghz with 1.17 volt . Max temp around 75 c to 78 c on stress test. If trying to crank up the frequency i will need to crank up the voltage also. I did try to crank up to 4.3 with 1.25 , max temp will exceed 103 c. i did the test for few second and stop it. Just want to know , what is the clock speed you guys get if you have the similar setting.

 

 

[BlackOutCrisis]

I have my 3570k on a msi z77 g45 at 4.3 with 1.18v max temps are 70c. Sounds like you got unlucky on silicon lottery. I would suggest delidding your 3770k and replacing thermal compound.

 

Edit* Cooler is a 212 evo

[ericchaipc]

Delidding is a bit risky for me . See some tutorial using a vice or razor . Considering to get a AIO water cooling kit . Swiftesch h22o or TT water Extreme 2.0 . 

[BlackOutCrisis]

Delidding is a bit risky for me . See some tutorial using a vice or razor . Considering to get a AIO water cooling kit . Swiftesch h22o or TT water Extreme 2.0 . 

That is just avoiding the issue in my opinion, you shouldn't have to spend another 100$ on another cooler. The nh-d14 is a badass cooler. Delidding is your best choice and is actually a pretty common practice with Ivy cpu's. I think you can do it just fine, clear about an hour or more from your day and just get everything ready and sit down and take it slow and careful and you will be just fine.

[ericchaipc]

Ya i just want to run away from the issues. The NH-D14 serve me well actually. I use it for my AMD at 1.35 volt , the load temp are just 65 c only . Can i just use a normal thermal paste for the CPU die ?

[Fonil]

Ya i just want to run away from the issues. The NH-D14 serve me well actually. I use it for my AMD at 1.35 volt , the load temp are just 65 c only . Can i just use a normal thermal paste for the CPU die ?

 

depends on what you mean by normal thermal paste, if your buying it at best buy or something silly, I wouldn't

[ericchaipc]

depends on what you mean by normal thermal paste, if your buying it at best buy or something silly, I wouldn't

Any suggestion ? 

[BlackOutCrisis]

The thermal compound I am less educated about. I would think going with IC diamond would be your best choice because it isn't conductive at all but some guys will argue that the diamond flakes will scratch the silicon die but I don't think that actually happens. Things that you want to focus on are staying calm, do not get anxious and nervous just breathe and take your time because anxiety can cause you to fuck shit up. You need ALOT of patience doing this, and when I say ALOT I mean you seriously have to go as slow as possible. Also don't wear gloves, keep yours hands somewhat clean of sweat so shit isn't slippy and you don't cut yourself on accident. Also keep yourself grounded at all times so keep a PSU that is plugged into a wall socket and turn on (not computer turned on just the switch on back ok PSU on). Make sure you watch videos and know which direction the silicon die arranged so you know where to not cut to far into the glue.

[BlackOutCrisis]

Also keep your razor blade completely flat against PCB so you don't cut the traces, keep it flat when cutting into glue and when pulling the blade back out. Also try to keep your hands off the gold connectors on back as much as possible, it isn't going to ruin it if you touch it but it is just better to touch less as possible.

[ericchaipc]

May be i will do alot of research first before i do it . Thanks mate .!! :)

[BlackOutCrisis]

I think mx-2 is probably the safest choice in thermal compound because I've seen people use it before for delidding.

[BlackOutCrisis]

I hate to link to another forum but here is a very active thread that is full of people who have delidded their ivy bridge. I'm sure someone there would be alot more help than me! :)

 

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club

[Fonil]

If that's the route your taking, just based on viewing BlackOutCrisis's forum post for a minute it seems the coollabortory TIM's were netting the best results. 

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10740/thr-77/Coollaboratory_Liquid_Ultra_100_Metal_Thermal_Interface_Material.html

 

For the Ultra

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3784/thr-26/Coollaboratory_Liquid_PRO_Thermal_Interface_Material.html

 

For the Pro

 

$2 difference and for all I know the true difference between the two compounds could be snake oil however its $2

[grayperview]

Those temps are extreme for that clock speed, check the mounting on your cooler. while your there clean the CPU and cooler and repast is, using Logans PEA method from the Tek, dont spread it could get air bubbles, also keep an eye on your voltage with hardware monitor it could be increasing it automatically,  The temps you are getting are the temps i would expect to see at 1.4v so could be a settings problem.

 

Delid as last resort.

[TimmyTechTV]

Hi guys ,

I have a M Z77 Mpower with 3770k . Using NHD-14 , corsair 650D case.

Overclock to 4.2ghz with 1.17 volt . Max temp around 75 c to 78 c on stress test. If trying to crank up the frequency i will need to crank up the voltage also. I did try to crank up to 4.3 with 1.25 , max temp will exceed 103 c. i did the test for few second and stop it. Just want to know , what is the clock speed you guys get if you have the similar setting.

You should be able to achieve a 1.25volt overclock, however your temps should be 70c-80c or so at max load. 100c+ is extreme though. Trying to remount the cooler with new thermal paste is a good first step, but the stuff that comes with the NHD-14 is pretty good thermal paste. (I use it on my H-100 and get great results)

Your larger issue is that the airflow in your 650D + the NHD-14 may not have enough cooling potential to overclock that aggressively. That isn't saying your cooler is bad, but maybe it isn't getting enough fresh air.

What kind of fan config do you have in the 650D? Also, what tool are you using to generate the load?

Tim

PS - I would check the warranty page for Intel @ http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/warranty?wapkw=warranty before removing the heat spreader. I'm 99% sure it voids the warranty.

[ericchaipc]

Those temps are extreme for that clock speed, check the mounting on your cooler. while your there clean the CPU and cooler and repast is, using Logans PEA method from the Tek, dont spread it could get air bubbles, also keep an eye on your voltage with hardware monitor it could be increasing it automatically,  The temps you are getting are the temps i would expect to see at 1.4v so could be a settings problem.

 

Delid as last resort.

I have reapplied the thermal paste using the pea size method.  for the mounting part , i have at least remount it for three time . Hand tight . Same result. Might be getting a poor chip or having issues with the tim .

[ericchaipc]

You should be able to achieve a 1.25volt overclock, however your temps should be 70c-80c or so at max load. 100c+ is extreme though. Trying to remount the cooler with new thermal paste is a good first step, but the stuff that comes with the NHD-14 is pretty good thermal paste. (I use it on my H-100 and get great results)

Your larger issue is that the airflow in your 650D + the NHD-14 may not have enough cooling potential to overclock that aggressively. That isn't saying your cooler is bad, but maybe it isn't getting enough fresh air.

What kind of fan config do you have in the 650D? Also, what tool are you using to generate the load?

Tim

PS - I would check the warranty page for Intel @ http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/warranty?wapkw=warranty before removing the heat spreader. I'm 99% sure it voids the warranty.

I use the 650D for my amd Phenom ii x6 build previously clock at 4.3 or 4.4 with  1.35 volt . max temp at 60 - 65 c , airflow should be ok i think .  A bit disappointed with the intel chip i got .

[BlackOutCrisis]

I use the 650D for my amd Phenom ii x6 build previously clock at 4.3 or 4.4 with  1.35 volt . max temp at 60 - 65 c , airflow should be ok i think .  A bit disappointed with the intel chip i got .

Yea you just got bad luck on silicon lottery, that combined with IVY's stupid thermal paste is what is causing the temps.

[grayperview]

Starting to sound like a bad chip, i would contact Intel...

 

one other thing, your air flow, make sure the fans at the top of your case are exhaust fans, if they are set the wrong way round, they could be blowing warm air back onto the chip, just worth a double check to be sure.

[xXxYOLOxSWAGxXx_420BlazeIt]

Delid it.

 

Buy some P4s or some other old low end 775 CPUs to practice on as they are made from the same materials.

[ericchaipc]

Starting to sound like a bad chip, i would contact Intel...

 

one other thing, your air flow, make sure the fans at the top of your case are exhaust fans, if they are set the wrong way round, they could be blowing warm air back onto the chip, just worth a double check to be sure.

Yes it is exhaust fan.  :)

[ericchaipc]

Delid it.

 

Buy some P4s or some other old low end 775 CPUs to practice on as they are made from the same materials.

After consideration , i may just leave it as what i can achieve. May be will try to delide if i have a budget for another build .

[TimmyTechTV]

Before you de-lid it, I would contact warranty support and see if they might replace the chip. Worth it before you void the warranty.

 

http://www.intel.com/support/wrtysvcs/wrtyprgs/prodwrty/sb/CS-032370.htm

 

Tim

[ericchaipc]

Before you de-lid it, I would contact warranty support and see if they might replace the chip. Worth it before you void the warranty.

 

http://www.intel.com/support/wrtysvcs/wrtyprgs/prodwrty/sb/CS-032370.htm

 

Tim

I don't think they will cover overclocking part .Thanks for your suggestion.

[BlackOutCrisis]

I don't think they will cover overclocking part .Thanks for your suggestion.

Tell them it won't ever turbo to max because temps get to high.