build suggestions

[snowpike]

hi people i was thinking of building a computer and could please give me any suggestions of this bulid if it is good. THANKS


Case: Fractal Design R4

HD: Segate Barracuda 1TB

GPU: MSI HD 7850 TF

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Samsung 840 120GB

MB: MSI Z77A-GD5

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit
 

[Morpheus]

i would go with a 2tb drive but that's just me

[iAsuno]

what is your budget?

[joelthezombie15]

Case: Rosewill Blackhawk Mid ATX (leave other suggestions around $100)

HD: WD Blue 1TB

GPU: Asus 660ti or HD7950 get a sapphire or MSI 7950 no 660ti

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800) only need 8 gb for gaming

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Kingston HyperX 120GB - i would say to get a refurbished ssd they are cheaper, corsair has a good warranty on there ssd's and they are decent ssds

MB: AsRock Z77 Extreme4 - this is a good board to and cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130645

 

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit

 

looks good, and you dont have to listen to me but it could save you a bit :)

[melchiorvester]

Maybe go with a WD black drive its faster 

[Wats]

The Blackhawk is such a poor case if you do not plan to mod it. Actually, it's a lame case even if you do...

 

Included fans are noisy, almost zero cable management room and nowhere at all for radiators or tall heatsinks.

 

If someone gave me that case (again), I would use a shoe box.

 

 

 

Oh and you can't even use a hyper 212 in that case..Side panel won't fit after you install the cooler.

[D3MON]

id say go with amd, get an fx8350 and a gigabyte ud5 or an msi board around the £100 mark (6 sata ports is better than 2 that will die in my book), and a 7870 tahiti LE and spend the extra cash on a samsung 840 256gb, maybe even a pro if you can afford it.

cpu-fx8350
mobo-asus m5a99x evo Rev 2, gigabyte ud3 if you dont want a blue theme

hdd-seagate barracuda 1tb (2tb is better£/GBif you can afford it)
case-sharkoon t9 red or blue (check to see if its got a usb3 19 pin internal header)
hyper 212 evo
psu-corsair cx750m
graphics-7870 tahiti LE, powercolour myst 1 is nice and clean lookin
ram-8gb 1600mhz corsair vengeance standard high-black

itll be a cracking build and last you ages, havent checked the overall price yet but this is what id get

[DaFirnz]

Maybe go with a WD black drive its faster 

For a boot drive the difference is near nil. For storage the difference is nil.

Plus the new WB blues have 1tb platters (or so I am told) just like the newer Seagates. Which equals faster seek times.

 

I would agree with joelthezombie15 on the GPU and ram.  But not so much the MOBO, without doing research. Try not to spend over $100 on the ssd for a 120gb.

 

With more information like where you are it's easier to help pick out items by price.

[Guest]

hi people i was thinking of building a computer and could please give me any suggestions of this bulid is good thanks and what i should do or change THANKS

 

Case: Rosewill Blackhawk Mid ATX (leave other suggestions around $100)

HD: WD Blue 1TB

GPU: Asus GTX 660ti

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Kingston HyperX 120GB

MB: AsRock Z77 Extreme4

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit

 

Moved to NB&P :)

[WoodenMarker]

You could downgrade to a cx600 as well as get a cheaper z77 board.

I personally wouldn't add a 2nd fan to the evo as I consider it enough as is but that's up to you. 

The higher write speeds of the kingston ssd aren't too important. It's more about the read so I chose the samsung 840 instead.

The Cougar case is a sexy little case and is pretty awesome considering its price. 

 

Here's what I would do:

 

[snowpike]

this is my new update

 

Case: Fractal Design R4

HD: Segate Barracuda 1TB

GPU: MSI HD 7950 TF

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Samsung 840 120GB

MB: MSI Z77A-GD5

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit
 

[WoodenMarker]

this is my new update

 

Case: Fractal Design R4

HD: Segate Barracuda 1TB

GPU: MSI HD 7850 TF

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Samsung 840 120GB

MB: MSI Z77A-GD5

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit

 

I'd just grab the cheapest 7850 if I were you or just jump to 7950.

650w is overkill even for a 7950. A cx430 will be enough. If you change to a 7950, a cx600 will be plenty.

A z77a-G45 is a lower priced motherboard and will be more than enough.

[Eddprzz]

id say go with amd, get an fx8350 and a gigabyte ud5 or an msi board around the £100 mark (6 sata ports is better than 2 that will die in my book), and a 7870 tahiti LE and spend the extra cash on a samsung 840 256gb, maybe even a pro if you can afford it.

cpu-fx8350

mobo-asus m5a99x evo Rev 2, gigabyte ud3 if you dont want a blue theme

hdd-seagate barracuda 1tb (2tb is better£/GBif you can afford it)

case-sharkoon t9 red or blue (check to see if its got a usb3 19 pin internal header)

hyper 212 evo

psu-corsair cx750m

graphics-7870 tahiti LE, powercolour myst 1 is nice and clean lookin

ram-8gb 1600mhz corsair vengeance standard high-black

itll be a cracking build and last you ages, havent checked the overall price yet but this is what id get

I wudd 2nd this but forthe psu go for something less unless u guna do sli in future than keep 750w

[D3MON]

I'd just grab the cheapest 7850 if I were you or just jump to 7950.

650w is overkill even for a 7950. A cx430 will be enough. If you change to a 7950, a cx600 will be plenty.

A z77a-G45 is a lower priced motherboard and will be more than enough.

I'm running an antec truepower 550w (love it) but with a gtx 285-(200w give or take) under load it can draw 380ish watts, bearing in mind the psu is 85%(ish) efficient that means im around 87% of the psu's maximum, for a 7950(225watt?) id say 750w is preferable, I hate when people assume more power is better but here i'm not assuming, im calculating, 430w@85%eff=365w-185 for cpu-180for gpu...doesnt work

a 7870TLE(what i recommend) isnt much down from a 7950

7850-£140-for a nice xfx one

7870tle(7930)-£180 (£40 more)

7950-£225-unless you like saphire colour schemes-(£45 more again)

is it worth buying a 7850 when for £40 you can get similar performance to a 7950 (a near flagship card?)

why a 3570k with haswell around the corner?, 1#prices should fall on their knees, 2# we've been saying for ages things are getting more multithreaded and a 8350 can keep up with and exceed a 3770k in such scenario's, in gaming it will make minimal difference, you're GPU bound in newer titles, and in poorly threaded older titles you're going to get more FPS than will matter, seriously what do you do with 200fps in skyrim?

actually get a 8320!!! its £120 opposed to £170 for the intel chip, although theres no point in overclocking "to the max" in gaming you could always put it up to 4.2ghz which wont require much voltage, will be cool, easily doable, wont bottleneck and sve the money for an ssd.

[WoodenMarker]

I'm running an antec truepower 550w (love it) but with a gtx 285-(200w give or take) under load it can draw 380ish watts, bearing in mind the psu is 85%(ish) efficient that means im around 87% of the psu's maximum, for a 7950(225watt?) id say 750w is preferable, I hate when people assume more power is better but here i'm not assuming, im calculating, 430w@85%eff=365w-185 for cpu-180for gpu...doesnt work

a 7870TLE(what i recommend) isnt much down from a 7950

7850-£140-for a nice xfx one

7870tle(7930)-£180 (£40 more)

7950-£225-unless you like saphire colour schemes-(£45 more again)

is it worth buying a 7850 when for £40 you can get similar performance to a 7950 (a near flagship card?)

why a 3570k with haswell around the corner?, 1#prices should fall on their knees, 2# we've been saying for ages things are getting more multithreaded and a 8350 can keep up with and exceed a 3770k in such scenario's, in gaming it will make minimal difference, you're GPU bound in newer titles, and in poorly threaded older titles you're going to get more FPS than will matter, seriously what do you do with 200fps in skyrim?

actually get a 8320!!! its £120 opposed to £170 for the intel chip, although theres no point in overclocking "to the max" in gaming you could always put it up to 4.2ghz which wont require much voltage, will be cool, easily doable, wont bottleneck and sve the money for an ssd.

An overclocked 3770k with a few hard drives, 4 sticks of ram, a dvd drive, an ssd, and a 7950 uses 400w. If you ever need to calculate actual power usage: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

As for 7950 crossfire, a good 650w will do.

As for the 7850 or 7950, I like those two as opposed to the 7870 because when overclocked, the two are better bangs for your buck.

 

A 3570k will probably be cheaper, yes. Haswell's prices won't drop to their knees so a 3570k makes sense. A 3570k definitely wins when optimally and practically overclocked as opposed to some weaker overclocks when benchmarking. More fps is generally better--it's hard to argue against that. Sure in skyrim, you might get 200fps but not every game runs like skyrim.

 

There is a point to overclocking when gaming especially when it comes to cpu heavier games. Sure, max is unreasonable but no one has maxed out a modern cpu yet--No one. A better overclock is 4.4/4.6ghz. 

[WoodenMarker]

this is my new update

Case: Fractal Design R4

HD: Segate Barracuda 1TB

GPU: MSI HD 7850 TF

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650W .V2

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4GB DDR3 1600 (PC312800)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K, socket 1155

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo (thinking of adding another fan)

SSD: Samsung 840 120GB

MB: MSI Z77A-GD5

DVD: asus 24B1ST

Windows 7 64bit

 

Here's my update to your update: All items from Newegg

I downgraded psu to 600w. 650w is overkill unless you're going to crossfire two 7950's.

I found cheaper ram. Ram is ram.

Got a good but cheaper z77 board.

Most importantly--got a 7950.

 

Finally, do you actually have a budget?

[D3MON]

An overclocked 3770k with a few hard drives, 4 sticks of ram, a dvd drive, an ssd, and a 7950 uses 400w. If you ever need to calculate actual power usage: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

As for 7950 crossfire, a good 650w will do.

As for the 7850 or 7950, I like those two as opposed to the 7870 because when overclocked, the two are better bangs for your buck.

 

A 3570k will probably be cheaper, yes. Haswell's prices won't drop to their knees so a 3570k makes sense. A 3570k definitely wins when optimally and practically overclocked as opposed to some weaker overclocks when benchmarking. More fps is generally better--it's hard to argue against that. Sure in skyrim, you might get 200fps but not every game runs like skyrim.

 

There is a point to overclocking when gaming especially when it comes to cpu heavier games. Sure, max is unreasonable but no one has maxed out a modern cpu yet--No one. A better overclock is 4.4/4.6ghz. 

a 7870 TLE is a 7950 but £70 cheaper and much better bang for buck if you factor in longevity than a 7850 which might tie you over till 9000 series comes out next year.....but a 7950 could last you 4 year (how many peope are still running 5870's and stuff now

and that power calculator uses tdp rating to assume power draw, you might feel safe running a power supply at 100% for a few hours of gaming but i dont, a 8350 is rated at 125w but draws closer to 200.

if it doesnt cost much more why would you short change yourself?

plenty of people can get thier fx's and i5's upto 5ghz, but why have a 40% OC for a 6% gain, and any older cpu intense games are generally lightly threaded and get more than playable frame rates anyway,

[snowpike]

my bad i actully chose a 7950 not a 7850

 

made a mistake

[WoodenMarker]

a 7870 TLE is a 7950 but £70 cheaper and much better bang for buck if you factor in longevity than a 7850 which might tie you over till 9000 series comes out next year.....but a 7950 could last you 4 year (how many peope are still running 5870's and stuff now

and that power calculator uses tdp rating to assume power draw, you might feel safe running a power supply at 100% for a few hours of gaming but i dont, a 8350 is rated at 125w but draws closer to 200.

if it doesnt cost much more why would you short change yourself?

plenty of people can get thier fx's and i5's upto 5ghz, but why have a 40% OC for a 6% gain, and any older cpu intense games are generally lightly threaded and get more than playable frame rates anyway,

The 7870 Tahiti LE is a crippled 7950 and when both overclocked, the 7950 is about 20% faster for about 20-30% more money. Factor in that it would last longer and that it would be a more balanced system and it turns out both cards are great value cards. It's mostly up to how long would the op want to use the card before replacing.

As for the psu, there's no need to waste money on a more powerful psu that's not needed. A cx600 will be plenty for this build. It's not shortchanging yourself--it's not getting an overkill psu like everyone else during their first builds. If you an get a more powerful psu within $5 more, that'd be worth it. If not, save the money because the extra headroom will probably never be used up.

Overclocking is good because it is essentially FREE PERFORMANCE. Not doing it is a waste. This build is not for older cpu intense games but if for all the op's current games and future games. 

[D3MON]

The 7870 Tahiti LE is a crippled 7950 and when both overclocked, the 7950 is about 20% faster for about 20-30% more money. Factor in that it would last longer and that it would be a more balanced system and it turns out both cards are great value cards. It's mostly up to how long would the op want to use the card before replacing.

As for the psu, there's no need to waste money on a more powerful psu that's not needed. A cx600 will be plenty for this build. It's not shortchanging yourself--it's not getting an overkill psu like everyone else during their first builds. If you an get a more powerful psu within $5 more, that'd be worth it. If not, save the money because the extra headroom will probably never be used up.

Overclocking is good because it is essentially FREE PERFORMANCE. Not doing it is a waste. This build is not for older cpu intense games but if for all the op's current games and future games.

its slightly crippled yes, its about 86% of the card for 70% of the price, i'd say that was good value and im getting more convinced every day to go for the 7870 instead of the xfx 7950 i was going to get.

a 7850 is 75% of the performance of the TLE and 60% of the price which again is good, (im not disputing that, its the lowest i would go) but you MUST overclock it to get decent frame rates at 1080p and if you enable v-sync you'll be going down to 30fps in most modern titles an overclocked 7870tle or 7950 will probably be at 60fps which is butter smooth.

as far as overclocking goes assuming both can be overclocked by a given percent (say 30%) the performance gap will only grow wider anyway.

we're always being told that you probably dont need to spend as much on your cpu and to spend more on a higher class of gpu if you can (ech hem, linus).

im sure a quad core with a 7850 will pwn crisis3 anyway.

[WoodenMarker]

its slightly crippled yes, its about 86% of the card for 70% of the price, i'd say that was good value and im getting more convinced every day to go for the 7870 instead of the xfx 7950 i was going to get.

a 7850 is 75% of the performance of the TLE and 60% of the price which again is good, (im not disputing that, its the lowest i would go) but you MUST overclock it to get decent frame rates at 1080p and if you enable v-sync you'll be going down to 30fps in most modern titles an overclocked 7870tle or 7950 will probably be at 60fps which is butter smooth.

as far as overclocking goes assuming both can be overclocked by a given percent (say 30%) the performance gap will only grow wider anyway.

we're always being told that you probably dont need to spend as much on your cpu and to spend more on a higher class of gpu if you can (ech hem, linus).

im sure a quad core with a 7850 will pwn crisis3 anyway.

Although true, the 3570k/7850 just seems a bit unbalanced. 

It still depends on what the usage of the system would be and the budget. So far, we know neither.

 

It would help if the op would tell us more.

[D3MON]

yeah, unbalanced isnt what id say, id say underpowered (the price lacement is definately unbalanced)
gotta say i bet it'll sip electricity though, im putting together a q6600+hd6670 as we speak, pretty much a toned down version  :D