4k vs 1440p

[SlaughterSmurf]

So, I already have have a single 780 ti so I won't be selling for AMD since I like the features offered by the green team so I was wondering

1) Can a 780 ti run games at 4k until I got another 780 ti

2) How hard would a 4.2 ghz 3570k bottleneck a SLI 780 ti

3) If they cost the same, obviously 4k is better than 1440p but due to the issues with text scaling, colour depth and latency , would you recommend a $600-$700 4k monitor such as these

4) Can SLI 780 tis even run 4k that well?

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-pb287q-professional-28in-4k-6e-97847-1009.htm

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-u28d590d-28in-4k-uhd-c5-95635-1165.htm

[Jodomcfrodo]

I would recommend the ROG 1440p monitor because 4K isn't all that great on PC's right now. The scaling in text still isn't amazing and pushing games on a single 780ti would be a chore and settings would have to be turned down. 4k on PC makes 0 sense to me at this point and until a Nvidia X80 ti can run games at 4k maxed out at around 100 fps, I'm not sold. 

[Syntaxvgm]

1. Yes, at lower settings. With a 4k monitor you can run 1080p and it'll be a perfect 4:1 scaling, so it will look native. 

2. Yes and no. In games that use more than 4 threads effectively, yes. But not a big deal. 

3. Idk. Up to you. 

4. I think so. Med-High settings. Remember most benchmarks are highest settings. 

[SlaughterSmurf]

I would recommend the ROG 1440p monitor because 4K isn't all that great on PC's right now. The scaling in text still isn't amazing and pushing games on a single 780ti would be a chore and settings would have to be turned down. 4k on PC makes 0 sense to me at this point and until a Nvidia X80 ti can run games at 4k maxed out at around 100 fps, I'm not sold. 

Why ROG?

[Izaya Orihara]

Yes but not at great settings. 

Not a ton

No.

Not maxed. 

 

Have a look at this topic I made a while ago http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/175606-my-thoughts-on-going-from-1440p-to-4k-and-back-to-1440p/

[SlaughterSmurf]

Yes but not at great settings. 

Not a ton

No.

Not maxed. 

 

Have a look at this topic I made a while ago http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/175606-my-thoughts-on-going-from-1440p-to-4k-and-back-to-1440p/

Would you recommend bothering with a 2nd 780 ti for 1440p?

[Syntaxvgm]

Would you recommend bothering with a 2nd 780 ti for 1440p?

Depends if you are the type that has to max out things. If not, don't bother I'd say. 

[Builder]

So, I already have have a single 780 ti so I won't be selling for AMD since I like the features offered by the green team so I was wondering

1) Can a 780 ti run games at 4k until I got another 780 ti

2) How hard would a 4.2 ghz 3570k bottleneck a SLI 780 ti

3) If they cost the same, obviously 4k is better than 1440p but due to the issues with text scaling, colour depth and latency , would you recommend a $600-$700 4k monitor such as these

4) Can SLI 780 tis even run 4k that well?

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-pb287q-professional-28in-4k-6e-97847-1009.htm

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-u28d590d-28in-4k-uhd-c5-95635-1165.htm

1) You won't be able to play them on Ultra for the most part, you may have to switch to Medium. SLI will change that a lot. You should be able to get consistently over 60FPS with two 780Tis at 4K.

 

2) An i5-3570K will not bottleneck them at all, it is still one of the best CPUs you can buy.

 

3) A 1440p monitor may be a better choice if you favor FPS over quality, and there are better 1440p displays out their for the reasons you list.

 

4) As answered in 1) it will do an OK job at Medium but for Ultra you really need a second card. Frame buffer is very important here, you really want 6GB+ of frame buffer for 4K but seeing as you don't have a Titan the 780 Ti will have to do.

[Jodomcfrodo]

Why ROG?

1440p

g-sync

144hz

looks cool

[Izaya Orihara]

Would you recommend bothering with a 2nd 780 ti for 1440p?

You sure do  not need to. I personally can deal with 45-50 fps and not crancking the AA in GPU crushing games such as Crysis 3. In less GPU hungry games such as BF4 you can cranck the settings up tho. As I do have a rather high income I personally went for an SLI Setup right off the bat but nomally I'd just recommend that you save your money. 

[Evostatic343]

So, I already have have a single 780 ti so I won't be selling for AMD since I like the features offered by the green team so I was wondering

1) Can a 780 ti run games at 4k until I got another 780 ti

2) How hard would a 4.2 ghz 3570k bottleneck a SLI 780 ti

3) If they cost the same, obviously 4k is better than 1440p but due to the issues with text scaling, colour depth and latency , would you recommend a $600-$700 4k monitor such as these

4) Can SLI 780 tis even run 4k that well?

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-pb287q-professional-28in-4k-6e-97847-1009.htm

 

http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-u28d590d-28in-4k-uhd-c5-95635-1165.htm

i have 2 780tis and it runs 3 1440p monitors at medium-high settings so 2 780tis for 4k is necesary for 4k gaming

[DoubleY]

1440p

g-sync

144hz

looks cool

You forgot bad color reproduction. 

[SlaughterSmurf]

1440p

g-sync

144hz

looks cool

Is it out yet? If not when does it come out?

[Jodomcfrodo]

You forgot bad color reproduction. 

I think the pros out weigh the cons for a gamer though.

[ZerueLX11]

You forgot bad color reproduction. 

Don't be ignorant...

 

The ROG Swift is the best TN Panel monitor available and is the only monitor to do what it does at the moment. Also TTL already reviewed the monitor and he can pretty harsh. He has even gotten in some pretty harsh disagreements with ASUS in the past. His review was honest and he had FEW ISSUES with the monitor. Also some people prefer faster monitors and higher refresh rates than slightly better colors. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgquRkMHgwE

[Izaya Orihara]

I think the pros out weigh the cons for a gamer though.

No? Unless you are a E-sports guy there is no way an IPS/PLS montior wouldn't be better for you. 

[Jodomcfrodo]

No? Unless you are a E-sports guy there is no way an IPS/PLS montior wouldn't be better for you. 

so a 60 hz monitor with no g sync but better color is better for a gamer...? Not to me at least.

[DoubleY]

Don't be ignorant...

 

The ROG Swift is the best TN Panel monitor available and is the only monitor to do what it does at the moment. Also TTL already reviewed the monitor and he can pretty harsh and has even gotten in some pretty harsh disagreements with ASUS in the past/ His review was honest and he had FEW ISSUES with the monitor. Also some people prefer faster monitors and higher refresh rates than slightly better colors. 

I forgot that pointing out facts is ignorance nowadays. 

Best is subjective. Besides, I REALLY doubt that that TN panel outplays the Asus 10-bit TN panel or the Philips 10-bit TN panel (both on 4K monitors)

[DoubleY]

so a 60 hz monitor with no g sync but better color is better for a gamer...? Not to me at least.

For a lot of people it is. Viewing angles are another thing to take into consideration. 

[ZerueLX11]

I forgot that pointing out facts is ignorance nowadays. 

Best is subjective. Besides, I REALLY doubt that that TN panel outplays the Asus 10-bit TN panel or the Philips 10-bit TN panel (both on 4K monitors)

 

Calling the color reproduction "Bad" right off the bat is no where being a "fact". It's really up to the user to determine if it is acceptable to them or not, but labeling something so quickly to be "bad" is something I don't find to be acceptable. ASUS is good at making high quality products and they certainly know about TN panels having a not so good reputation and I'm sure they worked very hard on it to make sure that the color reproduction is not "bad". It won't be the "best" color reproduction but surely won't be the worst.

 

A better post would be.

 

"The ROG SWIFT won't provide the same color reproduction and a 1440p IPS monitor, but its up to you if you think the gsync capability and the greater refresh rate are better than better color reproduction. Please do you research to make sure you make the best choice for you." 

[DoubleY]

Calling the color reproduction "Bad" right off the bat is no where bear being a "fact". It's really up to the user to determine if it is acceptable to them or not, but labeling something so quickly to be "bad" is something I don't find to be acceptable. ASUS is good at making high quality products and they certainly know about TN panels having not so good reputation and I'm sure they worked very hard on it to make sure that the color reproduction is not "bad". It won't be the "best" color reproduction but surely won't be the worst.

 

A better post would be.

 

"The ROG SWIFT won't provide the same color reproduction and a 1440p IPS monitor, but its up to you if you think the gsync capability and the greater refresh rate are better than better color reproduction. Please do you research to make sure you make the best choice for you." 

You do make a a point. I shouldn't have said it has bad color reproduction. I should have said bad compared to IPS/PVA/MVA

[Phoenix70]

do not go for 4k with 2 780 ti. next gen games will not play at 60 fps (most current do at medium+settings at at ~30 with 1 card) and there would be no bottleneck. get a 1440p monitor with more than 60 god damned hz