9800X3D Temp Spikes

[Nertzkul]

Hi everyone,

 

I just built a new system and I'm seeing some aggressive temperature spikes on my Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I'm using an NZXT Kraken 360 Plus AIO in an NZXT H6 Flow case.

 

The Issue:

While gaming, my temps are perfectly fine, hovering between 50°C and 60°C. However, when first launching a game or during shader compilation, the CPU draws about 140W and the temperature jumps to 96°C instantly. This lasts for about 30 to 60 seconds. Once the loading/compilation is finished, it drops back down to 55-60°C and stays there consistently.

 

My Question:

Is it normal for the 9800X3D to hit these thermal limits (96°C) under burst loads like shader compilation?

Should I be worried about long-term damage?

 

Full Specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Cooler: NZXT Kraken 360 Plus

Case: NZXT H6 Flow

 

Thank you.

[Tan3l6]

Seems a bit too high. I've got 9800X3d and 420mm Arctic AIO, voltage set manually to 1.19v and the temperatures under extreme loads like Prime95 SmallFFTs won't exceed 85C. (peaks at ~166W)

But I have my case open.

Still, you might have a bad thermal paste spread or uneven mounting pressure.

[Nertzkul]

6 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Biraz fazla yüksek gibi görünüyor. Benim 9800X3d işlemcim ve 420mm Arctic AIO sıvı soğutma sistemim var, voltajı manuel olarak 1.19v'a ayarladım ve Prime95 SmallFFT gibi aşırı yükler altında bile sıcaklıklar 85°C'yi geçmiyor. (zirve noktası ~166W)

Ama benim davam açık.

Yine de, termal macunun yanlış yayılması veya eşit olmayan montaj basıncı söz konusu olabilir.

Will these temperatures damage my CPU? I haven't tweaked any settings; everything in BIOS is set to 'Auto.' I haven't touched PBO or anything else Also, it stays around 55°C while gaming. If the cooler were installed incorrectly, would it even stay this cool?

[Nertzkul]

I'm new to the forum and decided to post this because I'm a bit worried about damaging my CPU. This is my first time using an AM5 series processor. As I mentioned, my CPU hits 96°C specifically during shader compilation or when launching a game for the first time. It stays there for a bit and then drops back down. I haven't noticed any thermal throttling or performance drops either. Is this normal for AM5?

[Tan3l6]

6 minutes ago, Nertzkul said:

Will these temperatures damage my CPU? I haven't tweaked any settings; everything in BIOS is set to 'Auto.' I haven't touched PBO or anything else Also, it stays around 55°C while gaming. If the cooler were installed incorrectly, would it even stay this cool?

Modern CPUs usually have safety features that should prevent damage from overheating I think.

An uneven AIO mounting pressure could give those temperatures. 

Have you looked for example at HWinfo64 or some similar software to verify how many cores get to 96C under heavy loads? If it's only couple then possibly uneven mounting pressure. 

I think 96C is near the temperature limit of which the safety measures start to kick in to avoid thermal damage in the long run. So it's not getting damaged.

And - welcome to the forum!

[Nertzkul]

Is it okay if I monitor the temps using MSI Afterburner? I've been seeing posts over the past week claiming that the latest versions of HWiNFO and CPU-Z have been compromised or hacked, so I'm a bit hesitant to use them. Is Afterburner reliable enough for tracking AM5 thermals?"

8 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Modern işlemcilerde genellikle aşırı ısınmadan kaynaklanan hasarı önleyecek güvenlik özellikleri bulunur diye düşünüyorum.

Dengesiz bir AIO montaj basıncı bu sıcaklıklara neden olabilir. 

Örneğin, ağır yük altında kaç çekirdeğin 96°C'ye ulaştığını doğrulamak için HWinfo64 veya benzeri bir yazılıma baktınız mı? Eğer sadece birkaç çekirdek 96°C'ye ulaşıyorsa, muhtemelen dengesiz montaj basıncı söz konusudur. 

Bence 96°C, uzun vadede termal hasarı önlemek için güvenlik önlemlerinin devreye girmeye başladığı sıcaklık sınırına yakın. Bu yüzden hasar görmüyor.

Ve - foruma hoş geldiniz!

 

[Hinjima]

24 minutes ago, Nertzkul said:

Hi everyone,

 

I just built a new system and I'm seeing some aggressive temperature spikes on my Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I'm using an NZXT Kraken 360 Plus AIO in an NZXT H6 Flow case.

 

The Issue:

While gaming, my temps are perfectly fine, hovering between 50°C and 60°C. However, when first launching a game or during shader compilation, the CPU draws about 140W and the temperature jumps to 96°C instantly. This lasts for about 30 to 60 seconds. Once the loading/compilation is finished, it drops back down to 55-60°C and stays there consistently.

 

My Question:

Is it normal for the 9800X3D to hit these thermal limits (96°C) under burst loads like shader compilation?

Should I be worried about long-term damage?

 

Full Specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Cooler: NZXT Kraken 360 Plus

Case: NZXT H6 Flow

 

Thank you.

Yes, this is actually completely normal for a Ryzen 9000 series CPU.

Mine does the same during 100% load.

 

There will be no long term damage at all, these CPU's are actually designed to sit at 95c 24/7.

They sorta'kinda' works like a GPU in the way they boost in terms of temperature and power.

[Hinjima]

12 minutes ago, Nertzkul said:

I'm new to the forum and decided to post this because I'm a bit worried about damaging my CPU. This is my first time using an AM5 series processor. As I mentioned, my CPU hits 96°C specifically during shader compilation or when launching a game for the first time. It stays there for a bit and then drops back down. I haven't noticed any thermal throttling or performance drops either. Is this normal for AM5?

Yes, this is normal for AM5.

I can give you 2 links/videos that will explain this further, if you want.

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Nertzkul said:

Is it okay if I monitor the temps using MSI Afterburner? I've been seeing posts over the past week claiming that the latest versions of HWiNFO and CPU-Z have been compromised or hacked, so I'm a bit hesitant to use them. Is Afterburner reliable enough for tracking AM5 thermals?"

 

MSI Afterburner is very reliable and a program I personally use for my CPU and GPU monitoring.

It can cause stuttering in some games.

[Tan3l6]

4 minutes ago, Nertzkul said:

Is it okay if I monitor the temps using MSI Afterburner? I've been seeing posts over the past week claiming that the latest versions of HWiNFO and CPU-Z have been compromised or hacked, so I'm a bit hesitant to use them. Is Afterburner reliable enough for tracking AM5 thermals?"

 

I think HWinfo64 itself is not hacked - Link the Google AI explains.
Just have to go to the real site not to get malware.

 

But Afterburner has the CPU temps monitoring too, should be fine either way.

[Tan3l6]

Actually Afterburner CPU temps reading seems not exactly functional - shows identical temps for all cores and that's impossible.

[Nertzkul]

9 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Yes, this is actually completely normal for a Ryzen 9000 series CPU.

Mine does the same during 100% load.

 

There will be no long term damage at all, these CPU's are actually designed to sit at 95c 24/7.

They sorta'kinda' works like a GPU in the way they boost in terms of temperature and power.

You've put my mind at ease. If the temperatures were constantly at these levels, I would definitely suspect my cooler, but thankfully it only happens during games, when I switch to another area, or when shaders are loading.

[Nertzkul]

3 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Actually Afterburner CPU temps reading seems not exactly functional - shows identical temps for all cores and that's impossible.

I understand. Thank you very much for the information.

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, Nertzkul said:

You've put my mind at ease. If the temperatures were constantly at these levels, I would definitely suspect my cooler, but thankfully it only happens during games, when I switch to another area, or when shaders are loading.

It IS safe for the CPU to sit at 95c but it does feel uncomfortable, even for me and I know its safe.

There will be absolutely no risk or possible damage to the CPU, its completely safe  

My 7700x and 9800X3D both hit 95c while loading shaders for example, or during windows antivirus run.

 

Here, I timed this video, Steve explains a bit further.  Don't be scared by the flames in the thumbnails  

And yes, the 7950X3D tested in these videos behave the same as any other AM5 CPU.  Except for the 7000 series of X3D CPU's that have a thermal limit of 85c if I am not mistaken.

 

Here is another video by JayzTwoCents that go deeper into the testing and show how the CPU balances itself at 95C/100% usage.

 

[Nertzkul]

3 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

İşlemcinin 95°C'de çalışması güvenlidir, ancak güvenli olduğunu bilmeme rağmen benim için bile rahatsız edici geliyor.

İşlemciye hiçbir risk veya hasar söz konusu olmayacak, tamamen güvenli. 

Örneğin, 7700x ve 9800x3D işlemcilerim, shader'ları yüklerken veya Windows antivirüs programı çalışırken 95 dereceye ulaşıyor.

 

Steve biraz daha detay vererek, "Bu videonun süresini ben ayarladım. Küçük resimlerdeki alevlerden korkmayın" diye açıklıyor. 

Evet, bu videolarda test edilen 7950X3D, diğer tüm AM5 işlemcilerle aynı şekilde davranıyor. Yanılmıyorsam, 85°C'lik bir termal limite sahip olan 7000 serisi X3D işlemciler hariç.

 

İşte JayzTwoCents'in daha detaylı testler yaptığı ve işlemcinin 95°C/100% kullanımda nasıl dengelendiğini gösteren bir başka videosu.

 

Thank you. 

[Hinjima]

Just now, Nertzkul said:

Thank you. 

No Problem.

Continue gaming, all is fine