Planning to upgrade

[4everaslime]

Hello everybody!

 

<<Please don't blame me on my English!>>

 

This summer i'm going to work at my dad and i was thinking about upgrading my pc.

my current specs are:

 

- Intel Core i5 3470 CPU

- HP motherboard

- HP case

- Kingston SSD

- Seagate HDD (semi-broken, everytime i start up my pc it says that the HDD fails and i have to press F1 and the pc starts up)

- Sapphire AMD radeon hd 6450 1GB (YES! it's horrible. I bought a GTX 660 along with this PC without knowing if it would fit, it didn't and sold it)

- Kingston 4gb RAM

- 2 lovely HP monitors

 

the reason i want to upgrase is because while i'm gaming (even while playing minecraft) my GPU hit 96% load and my RAM usage is maxed out too. I'm playing arond with unity and 3ds MAX too and it's the same story. 

I've never seen the CPU hitting 80% load so that doesn't need to be replaced, the SSD is fine too. Right now i want to change my case, PSU(this one doesn't have a six-pin PCI-e), RAM, CPU cooler, motherboard and GPU. for now, the semi-broken HDD is fine and there isn't too much important data on it and I want to focus my budget on the components I listed before. 

 

like i said before, i have 2 monitors and my quastion is: could I use my old GPU (hd 6450) as a second GPU or is that too much for the new PSU or motherboard i listed below?

 

 

I will have a budget around 400 euro's.

 

I'm willing to order the components from these 2 sites:

 

<<They are Dutch! you probably wont understand!>>

 

http://azerty.nl/8/componenten.html

http://www.alternate.nl/html/highlights/page.html?tk=7&hgid=189&tgid=906

 

and i was thinking to order these components:

   

Component:                 PRODUCT:       SITE:        PRICE: (in euro's)

 

PSU:                             XFX core PRO 550w    ====>  http://www.alternate.nl/XFX/PRO550W-Core-Edition-550-Watt-voeding/html/product/838244?event=search (59,90  €)

CASE:                          i was thinking about the ZALMAN z3 PLus, corsair 200r or Enermax ostrog. (up to 60 €)

GPU:                            Saphire AMD r7 265     ====> http://www.alternate.nl/SAPPHIRE/Dual-X-R7-265-2GB-GDDR5-(11232-00-20G)-grafische-kaart/html/product/1129305?tk=7&lk=10189 (139,90  €)

MOBO:                         ASUS P8B75-V       ====> https://azerty.nl/8-4924-508872/asus-p8b75-v.html (I really don't need anything better I can't OC because i have a non -K CPU and IF i had i still wouldn't) (52,70  €)

RAM:                            Kingston hyperX blu 2x4    ====>    http://www.alternate.nl/Kingston-HyperX/8-GB-DDR3-1600-Kit-geheugen/html/product/888352 (69,90  €)

CPU cooler:                  Cooler Master  hyper212 evo ====> https://azerty.nl/0-976-455750/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-koeler-voor-processor-socket-775-socket-1156-socket-am2-socket-am2-socket-1366-socket-am.html (28,98  €)

 

total price: € 411,38

 

 

Do you guys have any suggestions that might be cheaper or better? 

 

Thank you

 

Thom.

[brob]

@4everaslime, replace the hdd, double the memory, improve the gpu (and psu if necessary). That should be enough.

[4everaslime]

@4everaslime, replace the hdd, double the memory, improve the gpu (and psu if necessary). That should be enough.

 the problem is, the case has a weird formfactor and 2 slot high GPU's don't fit, thats why I also need to upgrade my case and motherboard

[brob]

 the problem is, the case has a weird formfactor and 2 slot high GPU's don't fit, thats why I also need to upgrade my case and motherboard

 

Too bad about the odd formfactor.

[OGFatal]

If I were you I'd 100% go for this

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€33.40 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Motherboard:  Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (€57.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory:  Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€45.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (€135.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Case:  Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.18 @ Hardwareversand) 

Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.25 @ Hardwareversand) 

Total: €399.27

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 21:56 CEST+0200)

 

You really don't need that cooler but hey if you have the money get it. I was/still am in the same position as you but hopefully once my mum gets paid and we're friends again I'll buy my r9 290! Good luck with your build sir

[Gachr]

Could you please make a few pictures of the case and the motherboard?

[4everaslime]

@Gachr

There you go do you need any more?

 

 

it looks like a 2 slot card woud fit but i measured it with a ruler and it didn't

 

(fun fact: i use LEGO tires as feet because the PC vibrated a lot )

[bbqsauce]

you might need to swap the mobo, if i'm not wrong those oem models don't have 24 pin

[4everaslime]

 

If I were you I'd 100% go for this

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€33.40 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Motherboard:  Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (€57.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory:  Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€45.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (€135.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Case:  Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.18 @ Hardwareversand) 

Power Supply:  XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€58.25 @ Hardwareversand) 

Total: €399.27

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 21:56 CEST+0200)

 

You really don't need that cooler but hey if you have the money get it. I was/still am in the same position as you but hopefully once my mum gets paid and we're friends again I'll buy my r9 290! Good luck with your build sir

 

 

AM3+ Motherboard with a LGA1155 CPU? 

 

and the r7 265 beats the 750 ti in bf4 and 3 wich are problably the 2 games I'm gonna play the most so yeah, i stay with the Sapphire

 

 

but thx for the help anyway

[4everaslime]

you might need to swap the mobo, if i'm not wrong those oem models don't have 24 pin

It does i quote from the site: (Dutch again, but i will make the part where it says red)

• Uitbreidingsslot(s) 
• 1 x processor - LGA1155 Socket ¦ 4 x geheugen  - DIMM 240-pins ¦ 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 ( 22 nm processor moet geïnstalleerd zijn ) ¦ 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 ( x4-modus ) ¦ 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 ¦ 3 x PCI
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[bbqsauce]

 

It does i quote from the site: (Dutch again, but i will make the part where it says red)

• Uitbreidingsslot(s) 
• 1 x processor - LGA1155 Socket ¦ 4 x geheugen  - DIMM 240-pins ¦ 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 ( 22 nm processor moet geïnstalleerd zijn ) ¦ 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 ( x4-modus ) ¦ 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 ¦ 3 x PCI
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I don't quite understand what you meant.

by 24 pin I meant the mobo 24-pin. I think you are confusing with the ram

[4everaslime]

I don't quite understand what you meant.

by 24 pin I meant the mobo 24-pin. I think you are confusing with the ram

Ah yes i was confused but yes the  Motherboard does have a 24 pin connector.

picture:

http://asus.technoportal.ua/img/motherboard/normal/asus_p8b75_v_1340619816887.jpg

[bbqsauce]

Ah yes i was confused but yes the  Motherboard does have a 24 pin connector.

picture:

http://asus.technoportal.ua/img/motherboard/normal/asus_p8b75_v_1340619816887.jpg

i'm refering to your hp mobo, the current one you have 

[4everaslime]

i'm refering to your hp mobo, the current one you have 

ahaha I'm horrible but you're right it doesn't it has just a lot of 4-pin cables.

[brob]

@Gachr

There you go do you need any more?

 

 

it looks like a 2 slot card woud fit but i measured it with a ruler and it didn't

 

(fun fact: i use LEGO tires as feet because the PC vibrated a lot )

 

The picture shows a BTX format motherboard.  Is the gpu in a PCI or PCIe slot? The white slot at the bottom looks like PCI.

[4everaslime]

The picture shows a BTX format motherboard.  Is the gpu in a PCI or PCIe slot? The white slot at the bottom looks like PCI.

it is in a pci-e slot but it does look like a pci

[dragoon20005]

werid mobo and the casing layout is really horrible

 

ok suggest getting a nicer looking casing (how about coolermaster N200 or 300?) which place the mobo the right way up

 

1TB WD Blue will be to replace the dying HDD

[MarQue98]

Don't order anything from alternate! I am dutch as well and was planning to order my parts there, waited 2 weeks and still nothing. Besides their service is like the worst. They do not help you at all if you have a problem. Their site is a mess, it took me and my dad (who has been working with PC's for about 30/45 years) an hour to just create an account! I know it may not sound as convincing, but trust me, you do not want to buy your parts there.

Anyways.. For the parts

I think this might be a better option:

PSU: corsair cx500m. Little bit cheaper than the xfx + it's modular.

RAM: I would say you're good to go with the Kingston ram, but here's the problem. I also have the Hyper Fury Ram and I'm going to bring my whole PC back to the store because there is a problem with the memory. This is my second kit of ram, both kits didn't work, so it might also be my mobo. In that case the Fury ram should do you just fine, but I'll keep you updated.

For the GPU I'd say go with an msi r9 270. They cost like 6 bux more, and Those 6 bux are going to be worth it (check out Linus' rant/review video about the r7 240, you'll get why u recommend the 270

Case is just personal preference.

Hyper 212 evo and mobo look fine to me.

Wow that's a wall of text, sorry for that

Hope it helps and I'll keep you updated about the ram

[4everaslime]

werid mobo and the casing layout is really horrible

 

ok suggest getting a nicer looking casing (how about coolermaster N200 or 300?) which place the mobo the right way up

 

1TB WD Blue will be to replace the dying HDD

Yeah I think I'm gonna buy A WD blue too but i think I'm gonna stick with the Zalman z3 plus white. it looks really slick and has a lot of fans included too (it has a fancontroller too).

I think it would look sick with some blue LED fans and the blue RAM and Motherboard

[dragoon20005]

Yeah I think I'm gonna buy A WD blue too but i think I'm gonna stick with the Zalman z3 plus white. it looks really slick and has a lot of fans included too (it has a fancontroller too).

I think it would look sick with some blue LED fans and the blue RAM and Motherboard

yea good idea and is it possible to order online from Amazon or better locations? I was thinking some UK sites

[4everaslime]

Don't order anything from alternate! I am dutch as well and was planning to order my parts there, waited 2 weeks and still nothing. Besides their service is like the worst. They do not help you at all if you have a problem. Their site is a mess, it took me and my dad (who has been working with PC's for about 30/45 years) an hour to just create an account! I know it may not sound as convincing, but trust me, you do not want to buy your parts there.

Anyways.. For the parts

I think this might be a better option:

PSU: corsair cx500m. Little bit cheaper than the xfx + it's modular.

RAM: I would say you're good to go with the Kingston ram, but here's the problem. I also have the Hyper Fury Ram and I'm going to bring my whole PC back to the store because there is a problem with the memory. This is my second kit of ram, both kits didn't work, so it might also be my mobo. In that case the Fury ram should do you just fine, but I'll keep you updated.

For the GPU I'd say go with an msi r9 270. They cost like 6 bux more, and Those 6 bux are going to be worth it (check out Linus' rant/review video about the r7 240, you'll get why u recommend the 270

Case is just personal preference.

Hyper 212 evo and mobo look fine to me.

Wow that's a wall of text, sorry for that

Hope it helps and I'll keep you updated about the ram

I heard some Negative things about alternate too. but I think I'm still ordering my case from them because the Zalman z3 plus (I really really like this case and it has some good reviews too) isn't available on Azerty

but I don't think it's necassary to have the modular cables so i will take the CX500 without the modular cables.

[4everaslime]

yea good idea and is it possible to order online from Amazon or better locations? I was thinking some UK sites

I could order from the German Amazon site

[4everaslime]

I just realized that you guys have been very helpful! Thanks!

[dragoon20005]

I could order from the German Amazon site

do that instead

[Gachr]

Yeah I think I'm gonna buy A WD blue too but i think I'm gonna stick with the Zalman z3 plus white. it looks really slick and has a lot of fans included too (it has a fancontroller too).

I think it would look sick with some blue LED fans and the blue RAM and Motherboard

I bought a WD Blue and I'm disappointed, I had a Seagate before and it worked much better, quiter etc. Could you please give us the exact model of RAM and how big is your SSD?