Horrible browser performance while gaming

[Beep or Boop]

Hey guys. I upgraded to windows 11 a bit ago and i have been noticing that while I game, I get worse and worse performance from my browsers. Big time slow downs and even full on stops from Twitch streams or Youtube videos. It seems to have happened right when I upgraded to Windows 11 from 10. It could be me and there is another issue, but I never had any issue while gaming and watching videos, with the exception of playing more hardware intensive games. The experience that I used to get playing graphics intensive games is what I am getting in general now. I have tried with windows "Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling" and GPU Acceleration in my browsers off and on, and nothing has really gotten me back to my old performance. Please tell me i'm not going crazy lol.

 

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - TUF Gaming B650E-E -  G Skill Flare 32G 2X D5 6000 C36 - Corsair RM850x - Founders Edition 3080 TI

[Vishera]

Maybe it's a VRAM utilization issue, games love VRAM but browsers also need VRAM to run smoothly, or maybe the GPU utilization is also part of the issue.

Watching videos utilizes more VRAM and the GPU than most browser workloads.

 

Lowering texture settings and capping the framerate should make the browser run smoother.

[Beep or Boop]

30 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Maybe it's a VRAM utilization issue, games love VRAM but browsers also need VRAM to run smoothly, or maybe the GPU utilization is also part of the issue.

Watching videos utilizes more VRAM and the GPU than most browser workloads.

 

Lowering texture settings and capping the framerate should make the browser run smoother.

That's what i've done with most games and yet i'm still seeing a drop in performance for my videos

[Kisai]

7 hours ago, Beep or Boop said:

Hey guys. I upgraded to windows 11 a bit ago and i have been noticing that while I game, I get worse and worse performance from my browsers. Big time slow downs and even full on stops from Twitch streams or Youtube videos. It seems to have happened right when I upgraded to Windows 11 from 10. It could be me and there is another issue, but I never had any issue while gaming and watching videos, with the exception of playing more hardware intensive games. The experience that I used to get playing graphics intensive games is what I am getting in general now. I have tried with windows "Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling" and GPU Acceleration in my browsers off and on, and nothing has really gotten me back to my old performance. Please tell me i'm not going crazy lol.

 

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - TUF Gaming B650E-E -  G Skill Flare 32G 2X D5 6000 C36 - Corsair RM850x - Founders Edition 3080 TI

I have never run into this problem. I have a 3090 (24GB) on a i7-14700K with 128GB of RAM

 

I'll tell you what I have noticed however, power management settings are not working correctly with any nvidia GPU on any Intel platform. (I have a 3070Ti on a 11700K as well.) 

 

If you have any power management turned on in the BIOS (which you should so the OS can manage it) somehow this starts a cascade of PCIe throttling across all PCIe devices. I found that if the power management is "only turned on" it may work correctly until you turn on the PCIe ASPM and then all hell breaks loose. For some reason ASPM will aggressively try to save power, even when the GPU is actually busy.

 

So you may want to investigate that. Second, check what the power management IS actually set to.

 

 

If that first option (power mode) is not set to Balanced or Performance, you are going to get those chugging youtube videos because it's actively trying dial down power usage on "stuff you're not looking at"

 

Another reason may simply be because you have HDR on or your refresh rate set above 60 while watching video that is not HDR/60, and it's putting an extra trip through the GPU to compensate for it. 

 

This is a non-scientificly-proven tip, but unless you are watching UHD Blueray, leave HDR off. Unless the game actually advertises rec.2020 UHD HDR, there's no point.

 

[HappyGoFishing]

this used to be an issue with GTA V on PC where it would cause Firefox to tank its performance. I don't know what caused it, but the next-gen enhanced edition of GTA V resolved the issue, this is the only game I've ever encountered this issue with.

[Beep or Boop]

7 hours ago, Kisai said:

I have never run into this problem. I have a 3090 (24GB) on a i7-14700K with 128GB of RAM

 

I'll tell you what I have noticed however, power management settings are not working correctly with any nvidia GPU on any Intel platform. (I have a 3070Ti on a 11700K as well.) 

 

If you have any power management turned on in the BIOS (which you should so the OS can manage it) somehow this starts a cascade of PCIe throttling across all PCIe devices. I found that if the power management is "only turned on" it may work correctly until you turn on the PCIe ASPM and then all hell breaks loose. For some reason ASPM will aggressively try to save power, even when the GPU is actually busy.

 

So you may want to investigate that. Second, check what the power management IS actually set to.

 

 

If that first option (power mode) is not set to Balanced or Performance, you are going to get those chugging youtube videos because it's actively trying dial down power usage on "stuff you're not looking at"

 

Another reason may simply be because you have HDR on or your refresh rate set above 60 while watching video that is not HDR/60, and it's putting an extra trip through the GPU to compensate for it. 

 

This is a non-scientificly-proven tip, but unless you are watching UHD Blueray, leave HDR off. Unless the game actually advertises rec.2020 UHD HDR, there's no point.

 

I changed OS's power plan to high performance. Will update you on if that changes anything. And will look into the BIOS next time I restart my PC. Thanks for the help!