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I am trying to install windows 10 on my Mac Pro 5,1 but the bootable media I created isn't being recognised in the boot picker. The drive is a 16GB Kingston USB 2.0 that I formatted as ExFat using MBR partition scheme. Then I copied the contents of the ISO onto the drive. This has worked for me in the past but isn't now so I think it is a problem with the Mac. I could also try a different usb but I don't currently have one on hand so I would be greatful for any other ideas if you have any?

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42 minutes ago, RomantheFabulous said:

Then I copied the contents of the ISO onto the drive.

Do you not have to etch the drive?
I am no knower of macs, but I had thought that most install media had to be etched so it has a bootloader or something

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3 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Do you not have to etch the drive?
I am no knower of macs, but I had thought that most install media had to be etched so it has a bootloader or something

2nding this. You need to  use a program like Balena Etcher to format the ISO to the USB. https://etcher.balena.io/

 

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Just copying the ISO won't work because that does not create a boot partition on the drive - as others mentioned, you need to use a program like Rufus to flash the ISO to your media

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Format the USB drive with FAT32, as it works best for installing Windows on Mac.

 

The problem with FAT32, which is that it can't work with files larger than 4 GB. If you are trying to create a installer with Windows 10 2018 or later ISOs, you need to split the install.wim file, which is around 4.92GB.

 

While exFAT is supported and doesn't have the file size limitation of FAT32, it doesn't work well with Windows installer.

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3 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

2nding this. You need to  use a program like Balena Etcher to format the ISO to the USB. https://etcher.balena.io/

Easiest option w/o relying on 3rd party software would be to use "dd" which is also available on macOS. Syntax is the same as on Linux, i.e.

sudo dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/diskN

where "/dev/diskN" corresponds to the USB drive. It has always worked reliably for me, even if not the most "user friendly" approach.

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27 minutes ago, NoLeafClover said:

use "dd"

https://askubuntu.com/questions/753682/can-i-use-dd-to-burn-a-windows-iso

I don't think dd works for etching a bootable image

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3 hours ago, OddOod said:

I don't think dd works for etching a bootable image

Hm.... you're right, though not directly because of "dd". Etching a bootable image with "dd" is, in general, fine but it depends on the ISO file itself as "dd" will clone whatever the source is. If it's a hybrid ISO, it will work just fine. But it appears the current Win11 ISO from Microsoft is just a standard ISO 9660 image for optical media only. 

 

I'm not sure how recent this is as I don't recall it being a problem the last time I installed Windows, which admittedly wasn't in the recent past.  But I don't recall ever resorting to special tools. It may well be that my brain has blocked out the traumatic experience. Why Microsoft have opted for this when hybrid ISOs have been a thing for a very long time is a mystery and so MS.

 

One could repack the image, make it hybrid, then "dd" it, but at this point you may as well use an all-in-one tool.

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@RomantheFabulous Is this an older macOS version? Because if it's from the Intel CPU era, those older macOS/OSX versions had a Bootcamp app you could launch and format a drive for installing Windows on it. It took care of drivers and everything. In fact, that was the only official way to install Windows dual boot on those older macs. You needed to have the Windows Installer on an external media, though (USB or CD).

 

I know there was another method, but it's more finicky to get it right. IIRC, it involved creating a MBR/FAT32 partition from macOS/OSX, then "blessing" the installer drive as the boot drive. Then you restarted and held a combination of keys to see the boot menu. Then you loaded from the external drive with the installer.

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Installing from a USB. I've installed Linux very easily but there is a "trick" to doing it and if installing from a USB stick, it probably applies to all systems.

 

Hold down the Options key.

Insert the USB with the iso file that has been burnt to it.

Switch on the computer.

After it has booted, remove finger from the Options key.

 

Much easier than installing Linux to an exWindows machine and having to sort out the BIOS.

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